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Why Do I Write Poetry?

Blog Posted by Carole Duet: 9/4/2017 5:41:00 PM

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Date: 9/6/2017 9:10:00 AM
You already brought up the subject of punctuation on another occasion :) I remember I then replied that I use punctuation sparsely. Only if needed to disambiguate. I use line breaks, spacing and shaping as well, those TOO are tools of the poet. It's even so that overly punctuated poetry is something I will avoid. We're all different.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 3:20:00 PM
And, remember the title of this blog is: Why Do "I" Write Poetry?....
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 2:52:00 PM
Again, MY desire is to spread the love of poetry. I believe that writing in a simpler way makes it easier to read and ENJOY. As a teacher, I’ve found that many kids reject poetry. Why? IMO it’s because SOME poems are overly wordy and without correct line breaks and punctuation which help the reader and the READER is my primary concern. But, as I said before, "everyone to their own cup of tea".
Date: 9/5/2017 8:35:00 PM
I feel it's ok to leave out punctuation if you have done really good line breaks to make the meaning perfectly clear. I like using wide spacing to SHOW meaning sometimes. I usually only do this when writing free verse. In rhyme I always punctuate. If I face a poem that is really wordy, overly eloquent or longggggg, I just don't want to read it. It's tedious to me. I am here to write (and read) poetry, not short stories or novels; however, a poem that is particularly interesting can make a good narrative or rhymed poem. Everyone is different. Some here prefer elusive things and surreal images. To each his own. I believe I am in the majority when it comes to what people enjoy in poetry!
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Date: 9/6/2017 4:01:00 AM
I believe you are too, Andrea. And, I agree that the line breaks are very important to conveying meaning. If I want to read a "longggggg" poem I'll read a book and if I want to read something really wordy, I'll read a dictionary.
Date: 9/5/2017 6:57:00 PM
Hmmm... I have a poem that I was going to send to a journal, but I'm worried that it will be viewed as cultural appropriation, even though the inspiration is empathy, total and absolute empathy. Sooooo... how's about I post it and you can let me know. 1) Is it too 'wordy' for the average reader to understand 2) does it connect to you in any way whatsoever 3) Do the devices and intentional codes I've added ruin the clarity or add just enough mystery? You can be as brutally honest as you like... let's see if there's a place we can meet in the middle? I'll post shortly.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/8/2017 11:23:00 PM
Ok, Cyndi, I sent you the edited poem in 7 parts in the soup mail as you requested. I would have also sent this message by soup mail but the "sent" portion of soup mail is not working properly. Let me know if you got them.
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Date: 9/6/2017 6:11:00 PM
Yes, I get that. I read the article and I understand your dilemma. My suggestion to you regarding your poem is: Pretend you are a journalist or reporter and interview some of your Mexican friends. Let them read it to see what they think and ask for suggestions or ideas they have to contribute. In other words, do the research. That way…
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 6:10:00 PM
…you will know if in an illegal immigrant Mexican's eyes, it might be construed as "cultural appropriation". Then you may have to do another rewrite or not! I certainly wouldn’t give up the idea of publishing the poem. In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with it (culturally).
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 3:26:00 PM
The article is titled: Cultural Appropriation vs Cultural Appreciation: Working Through Our Own Excuses as White Allies. There is a way of showing compassion while not speaking FOR a culture. I'm just trying to find my way... empathy takes over. I think you get that :)
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 3:23:00 PM
Though I feel for the world, feel deeply the need to write from ALL perspectives, I am trying to be respectful... the discussion on cultural appropriation and poetry really needs its own blog, its that significant. If interested, check out this article (and see why I feel so TORN) //thebodyisnotanapology.com/magazine/go-back-and-take-care-of-yourself-first-your-body-needs-you-jenny/
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 3:03:00 PM
Therefore, take your pick. Do what you feel like doing as a responsible human being. As long as it comes from your heart (which entails empathy), it is the RIGHT thing to do. Enjoy it and make your life count for something.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 2:59:00 PM
Cyndi, I believe we MUST and SHOULD stand with them, MARCH with them, CHEER them and WRITE FOR them. And, as writers and poets, I believe it is a CALLING to do so if you believe what is happening is wrong.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 8:32:00 AM
I am really torn about that. Quite confused and at odds with my natural instinct to march ALONGSIDE others who are marginalized. But it's like 'take back the night' marches. Men are encourage to cheer from the sidelines, NOT to walk with the women. (sorry this is off topic... but does deal with poetry.)
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 8:30:00 AM
I'm grappling with the perimeters of 'cultural appropriation.' I feel two ways. One, shouldn't empathy, understanding and outrage for injustice cross cultures, be 'colourless'? But, two, should those outside a culture nose into an area, stand in THEIR spotlight at a time that needs THEIR voice, not mine? How to balance!!!!!
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 8:26:00 AM
Hey Carole, thank you for taking the time to read my poem. Not sure why you can't soupmail me (weirdness!) as I checked my settings. You're welcome to leave any type of comment on my poems (editing included.)
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 4:20:00 AM
Also, Cyndi, since the subject matter of the poem is so very apropos for today and highly political as well as emotional I think you should try submitting it to The Nation Magazine. I have the address if you want it.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/6/2017 4:14:00 AM
Cyndi, I have edited your poem. I did not find it too wordy and it really did connect with me as far as meaning is concerned as I am very pro-Mexican immigrant and believe what Trump is doing in regard to DACA is just unconscionable. I tried to soup mail it to you but apparently you don't receive soup mail. So, I need your email address.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 11:14:00 PM
Yes, I'd be happy to do that for you, Cyndi. Just give me a little time. Sounds interesting...and fun! I really love proofreading and editing. I have done that for a couple of authors and a few poets.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 7:07:00 PM
Carole, I posted it. It's title is "The San Antonio Night Crossing." I'm curious of what you'd make of it.
Date: 9/5/2017 7:21:00 AM
As for punctuation: often, the absence of punctuation opens multiple meanings. When I skip punctuation, I do so intentionally to leave different interpretations open to the reader. Poetry that spells out everything exactly is devoid of mystery; I like if a poem leaves the reader some room to imagine and think. Playing with punctuation can be one stylistic measure to accomplish this goal. I have never met anybody who dislikes poetry because of the lack of punctuation. They also dislike the Romantic poets who did use punctuation.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 8:13:00 PM
Agnes, Carole, check these out, seriously. FOURTEEN YEARS OLD! www.theguardian.com/childrens-books-site/2015/oct/08/foyle-young-poets-winners-2015-poetry-day IMPRESSIVE!
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:22:00 PM
And again, I must add that my concern is for the reader although I have seen/read a FEW poems which have been totally void of punctuation and capitalization which have had a very effective impact. However, they have been very short poems.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:18:00 PM
Well, Agnes, since it is entirely acceptable to leave punctuation out when writing poetry, it is definitely left up to the poet to decide what to do. It is just MY OPINION based on my extensive experience that it makes it "easier" for "most" people to read and understand...especially when reading aloud.
Date: 9/5/2017 7:18:00 AM
I think one reason many people don't like poetry is that they have been taught in school that poetry is something to be analyzed, dissected, deciphered; that there is one right answer to the question "What did the poet mean by this?" and poetry is just for those with inside knowledge. If, instead, poetry were made FUN, I would imagine more people simply enjoyed it. I fell in love with the ballads of the great German poets as a child and was able to enjoy poetry before school could ruin it - and by gosh, school did try.
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Date: 9/6/2017 8:42:00 AM
The poem has to have resonated in me to care about it enough to delve and dig. I don't ever feel this way about simple verse, like those found in a Hallmark card. There is nothing to explore... nothing to truly appreciate. If everything is easily understood, there is no reason to examine it after one read. If its all spelled out, if it provide no intrigue, no mystique at all, then I'm so disappointed by the write that I shrug, think 'meh' and I'm done and out of there. I collect birthday cards and if I want to read one, I can go to that lovely basket and reread the notes written below the verses. If I want to read poetry, then I want to read something that is built up, has dimension and even if written in simple language, shows me something different, fresh, makes me see the world in a strange, new way. Length doesn't matter to me. Four lines or four pages. But it has to do something amazing or I'm yawning...
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/6/2017 8:40:00 AM
:DD I like to read for fun, FIRST, then I dive in and SATURATE myself with a poem that has just taken hold of me and won't let go. I want to know why. I want to understand a bit more about the poem... how it ticks and all the tiny mechanics of the piece. I find it fun to put the jigsaw together, see how the pieces fit so perfectly...
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Andrea Dietrich
Date: 9/5/2017 8:37:00 PM
So true, Agnes. I hate analyzing things!!
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:15:00 PM
P.S. There is rarely "one right answer".
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:12:00 PM
I totally agree, Agnes. That's why I always tried to make learning anything/poetry fun. And, interpretation is after all highly personal and I think teachers should concentrate on the positive rather than the negative when a student attempts to interpret. The main thing is that they are interested and actually trying which of course exercises their precious brains/emotions.
Date: 9/5/2017 4:28:00 AM
I love simple bouncy one syllable words that tell a quick story, not for huge numbers to read, but rather for me to read again as a fun journal. :)
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:07:00 PM
Me too, Lewis, and thanks. However, I also enjoy more intense/longer poems as well since I do like variety. I think it's all a very personal thing honestly.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 11:20:00 AM
Cool ideology!
Date: 9/4/2017 7:59:00 PM
Makes sense. But isn't it also ego that wants one's poetry to be appreciated and enjoyed by absolutely everyone on the planet who can read English? I kinda think that Emily Dickinson was probably one of the most humble poets, ever. She explored language, played fast and hard with her beloved em-dash, and then off those poems went, into a desk. Does poetry need to be promoted? Like McDonalds with more than a billion people served? I write poetry because I love poetry, get earnestly excited about what one word can do, or the beauty of a perfect line break or the double meaning of one verb. I write for the joy of writing. If one reader enjoys my work, that's enough for me. Also, I have to say this, that many poets whose second language is English, are some of the most ASTUTE, observant and poetically minded readers. Some of my more complex poetry (which uses white space and less punctuation) has been better appreciated and understood by those whose first language ISN'T English. Poetry is extensive enough to allow readers and poets to find each other, enabling style and voice preferences. I think the important thing is that the poet follows inspiration and writes as she/he wishes to write.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 6:28:00 PM
This is so funny. I actually agree with MOST of what you've said, Cyndi.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 6:49:00 AM
I guess what I'm getting at is that if 20,000 readers really LOVE what someone has created, with or without punctuation, with some yummy words, than I don't see that as less or more than a more popular poet getting 200,000 reads. It's just different... ALL IS GOOD. Music lovers don't argue about the difference between pop music and opera. They just... enjoy what they enjoy, sing what they want to sing...
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 6:43:00 AM
Soup poems get read, but we're not talking a million reads, right? And I rarely post my poetry here.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 9/5/2017 6:43:00 AM
Words, punctuation, line breaks, stanza breaks, white space, formatting... we use these to paint, in a way. It's not about trying to confuse the reader or make it 'harder' to read. Poetry is about using all its components with purpose. I may admire Dickinson, but I have no interest in writing like her. I admire many poets and each has very distinctive styles.
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Carole Duet
Date: 9/5/2017 1:10:00 AM
I love the expressiveness of English. However, why make it harder for the reader to understand? And, what's wrong with promoting the reading of poetry? I'm sure that most writers want others to read their work. However, if you admire humility so much why are you writing and publishing your poetry here on a website where "absolutely everyone on the planet" can read it?

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