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I guess you could say I'm a citizen of the world. I've traveled....and I've lived parts of my life in Iran, Lebanon, the US, and Cyprus. I am proud of my Armenian heritage. I was born in Tehran, Iran and soon after that, my family went to the States for my dad to work on his MA degree and many years later, to work on his Ed.D. I have a lot of the Middle East and the West in me, and at times....I feel confused about my identity. I do, however, cling to my Armenian roots and am outspoken about recognition by the world of the Armenian Genocide that took place over 100 years ago.

Since my parents had no common language, the language spoken in our home was English. Yes, I am most fluent in English, and I think, dream, and converse in that language, though I do speak 5 other languages to varying degrees! :)

I am melancholy/sanguine by nature and feel everything very keenly. My highs are SUPER HIGH...and my lows...SUPER LOW! I guess you could say...I'm INTENSE. I'm passionate about poetry to the point of obsession.

The events that have colored my life are the death of my mother due to MS and the war in Lebanon. As a child, it was hard for me to come to grips with the fact that my mother was ill, and to see her go from being a vibrant, well-loved teacher to a wheelchair bound, isolated woman was a very harrowing experience. I do believe, though, that there is a resurrection day and that, by His grace, I will see my Mama fully restored...free of wheelchair, able to sing, laugh, and smile again. The war in Lebanon...bombs landing all around, nights spent in bomb shelters.. has also scarred me to some degree.

What I'm most proud of? That would be my daughter...Shereen Natalie Ghali. She is the light of my life. Her name in Farsi means SWEET! :)

Currently, I teach English at Middle East University in Beirut, Lebanon. Poetry Soup has been a haven for me....most of the time! ;) I've developed amazing friendships here that are very genuine and real. My dream is to one day have my name on a volume of poetry! One can always dream....Thank you for making the effort to get acquainted. God bless!

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Enough is Enough

Blog Posted:2/22/2016 10:33:00 AM

Dear Soupers,

I have a friend here who was going to leave before....and I blogged about issues here that make people want to leave. She came back. I was happy. Now she's inboxed me saying that she is leaving and asking me to copy the poem she dedicated to me before she closes her account. She is being bullied. This makes me livid. This is not adult behavior. Here is a simple rule: If you do not like a person's poetry.....the fact that they use images.....the face that they are not "up to par"....DO NOT VISIT THEIR WORK AND DO NOT LEAVE CAUSTIC COMMENTS. It's pretty simple!

Do NOT let "oversensitive"...or as I had a souper write to me on the blog...."Your Drama Mode" be your excuse for being uncivil, rude, petty, sarcastic and demeaning. Does that lift you up? Everyone can throw that comment around...I can give particular examples of instances on blogs where there has been infighting....and apologies for going over the line. That seems to be the point of blogs of late.

YOU enjoy someone critiquing your work....GOOD FOR YOU. Make a note at the end of your poem..."Please offer constructive criticism." OR....go ask the elite writers on this site to critique your poems for you. There is a forum and a place for that. Other than that....do NOT make people want to leave the site because you believe their writing is not of the same caliber as Poe or Shakespeare or what have you. FYI...what makes you an expert? By whose definition? Only EXPERTS can critque others with SOME level of authority as some of his contemporaries did Shakespeare....Yes...lots of people critiqued Shakespeare.....He wasn't top of the line...according to some. Christopher Marlow outshone him by miles. Read Tamburlaine. Yes...I taught a class on it. So all your...suggestions....are suggestions from people in the same field of writing. Some people, in my opnion, carry more weight due to published material and research they have done in the field ...and I HAVE WORLDS OF RESPECT FOR THESE PEOPLE AS MY COMMENTS ON THEIR BLOGS WILL SHOW. I LOVE to learn and am up to the challenge, but I will not tolerate putdowns.

Live and let live. I will not let my friends be run off the site by people who have been banned or shut out and have come back who claim to be....experts...as it were. There were obvious shut out for a reason. There is a way to address people and making them feel juvenile and elementary in their thinking or writing is NOT the way to do it.

Enough is enough. Seriously...such a big deal about contest or no contest...rules or no rules...pics or no pics...the features are HERE. They are HERE to be used...or not...as you deem fit. Discuss it ad infinitum....that's fine, but once you start making fun of people and lording it over them with your superior airs....that's what I call uncivil behavior...and it has to stop. PERIOD.

Eileen

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Nandita
Das

Date: 2/25/2016 10:34:00 AM

Eileen, I sincerely commend and applaud you for bringing up this issue in the open and for standing up for truth, in the face of fierce opposition. Well done. Poetry soup is a place for encouragement and inspiration. Thanks for being one.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/25/2016 10:37:00 AM

So good to see you here, dear. You haven't been around for some time. Thank you ever so much for your encouraging response. It means the world to me....It's been a difficult few days for me....Your visit is appreciated. Hugs

James Marshall
Goff

Date: 2/25/2016 6:48:00 AM

Eileen....you are a loving, compassionate Woman....Pop useta say "don't let the turkeys get ya down, jamesy" ...and your poetry is sublime neuro-stimuli....I always imagine you victorious on the high-road, brandishing the righteous-sword of success! .... now to what matters...how are things in Beirut? how are the relatives? you can s-mail if needed, love always, jim

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/25/2016 8:41:00 AM

Jim...thanks ever so much. It's so good to read words of affirmation. You've touched my heart. I miss the times on the show..You'd always call in. It's so good to have friends show up here on this blog. Thanks for the email offer, dear. Might take you up on it sometime. Hugs....and God bless. :)

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/24/2016 11:27:00 PM

On a FINAL note: Those of you who consider me a trouble maker....perhaps you could go to my previous blog...Spread the MUSH...and post a comment there. That was to spread love and good comments about fellow soupers....but I see that not one of you here on THIS blog....have posted a commented there on a POSITIVE community building blog. Here...you are quick to post....there....silence. I posted that blog.....I posted blogs about Flo's health...she ASKED me to, Ruben. I know you didn't like them...Did you post on those blogs? Something for you all to think about...when you consider someone a trouble maker just because she voices an opinion...Thank you. I will not comment more on this blog.

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/24/2016 11:05:00 PM

"Please stay on topic with your comments. Off topics comments may be removed. Thanks." This is TPS's comment right before you post something. I can see they have not been able or willing to apply their own rule....as evident on this blog. Neither have they removed comments that are demeaning put-downs. I remember people being offended and wanting to leave the site because their country was made fun of. Here...a person has been said to be "troubled, dishonest, dramatic, unprofessional, and demon ridden" and TPS has done nothing about it. I don't know how any of you can play that down. You would NOT if it had been said to you. It wasn't said to you..so it's easy to call for peace and unity.

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/25/2016 3:16:00 PM

Eileen I dont think you are a trouble -maker but the opposite - a very sensitive soul. Yes some words were said..out of the heat of the moment.I so believe...So hopefully as days go by. maybe things will get better... Big hugs

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/25/2016 8:51:00 AM

Thank you, Becca. I appreciate it. Anger and frustration...were expressed for a reason, Becca. I knew I would get flack for it. Perhaps my choice of words wasn't very judicious, but...that's done now. Good has come out of it. I've received encouragement through Soupmail and here on the blog by several people who share my....frustrations. I have learned a great deal as well...about people and about myself. As for a resolution...I really don't think that is forthcoming, but I plan to keep writing. I thank you for your comment. I was dreading coming to read something hurtful...yet again. Thanks.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 11:06:00 PM

I will not post further comments. Please...continue to find your joy and banter and pleasure. I've given you opportunity for that...

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/24/2016 10:49:00 PM

Is anyone ever blameless? A soft answer....I remember blogs and arguments between some people on this very blog....A soft answer is sage advice from the Bible. However, some things need to be said. If this issue is EVER to be dealt with...it needs to be said. Perhaps better wording could have been chosen, but as Ruben continues to say...I am standing by the principle of what I wrote in blog which is to each his own on this site. What is in my blog needed to be said. It is not an issue to be swept under the carpet. It's said...and now all of you can move on...in a certain manner. The comment about the Syrians needing a hero...was as Charmaine wrote....hurtful.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:53:00 PM

One thing you all must remember: A WORD is dead When it is said, Some say. I say it just Begins to live 5 That day. (Emily Dickinson) There are words that have been said that will live on...in this blog. That's another reason I don't regret it. I believe that it served as an example of the very things I was writing about. Charmaine....we have all said nice things. I have been OVERLY nice to most of the people here on the blog prior to this. I have not found the same response. No, it's not back to business as usual when you just ignore hurt...amends need to be made.

Charmaine
Chircop

Date: 2/24/2016 4:33:00 PM

Cont- The seeker was supportive when I thought and the doctot thought I had fibromyalgia...and Mark Anthony gave me constructive criticizm to write out of my comfort zone..These moments were all special to me..Can someone mention his /hers ? :) plssss: 0)

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/24/2016 5:39:00 PM

Now that is a beautiful poem Cyndi...Cuz its real lady..Btw when your children 's book is ready do let us know..I ll be proud to buy it..and shsre it with Christina.. Little by little Im trying to buy a book from each poet here..You are so talentef Cyndi..You just know what to say and how to say it in the right moment..Hugs..Ill soon be leaving..cuz Im going to be the one fighting with hubby now..the thrme will be 'poetrysoup quit '

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:33:00 PM

I hope that helped, Suncatcher. I know emotions are still running high, but I do believe we all still care about each other. Naïve of me? Probably. But I, too, would like to see things get better.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:29:00 PM

We write about the small things and the big things. We open our chests and write with what pulses from us. We explore our thoughts and feelings and dreams. We expose our fears. We tell truths that most would not.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:26:00 PM

We feel a sense of joy when a poem is finished and it does what we want it to do. We feel a sense of frustration when it resists us and is not quite as we wanted it.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:25:00 PM

We sometimes draw a blank, feel the inspiration stay just out of reach and it frustrates us... we hate the clock. Time is not our friend. We feel divided, sometimes, a poem will be born just as a family member is calling... there is a torn feeling.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:22:00 PM

We each fumbled, had someone call us a name at some time. We know what it is to feel gutted by one word. We love like only poets can love. We struggle to find the perfect words, sometimes. We wake up at strange hours with a line we must write down before it evaporates. We sometimes can not wait to write... it almost is like an addiction.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 5:16:00 PM

We each know how we want to write and wish the freedom to do so. We want to be able to express ourselves (all of us) freely. We each have personal goals beyond Soup. We each have other responsibilities that take us from our writing and test our abilities.

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/24/2016 5:01:00 PM

I was reading the comments Craig..and somehow I felt sadness when I read that ... I just wamted to give out thr message that it neednt come to that..I am reading Cyndi too..I am reading everyone..and yes...I hurt her/ she hurts me back/ I hurt heragain..and I see this cycle~but somehow deep down if I can remembdr our friendship with him / her before all tje silly hurtimg cycle..Maybe. I could forgive and forget this incident that needed to be maybe..and oncemore we could nbe friends again..

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 4:52:00 PM

We each wish at times to say things to stop others hurting us, but we don't know how to do it without hurting someone else in turn. We fear someone swatting our hand when we hold it out in friendship. We fear being misunderstood and misinterpreted. We fear dying before the best thing we've ever written has been released.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 4:48:00 PM

I will do something different. Commonalities. We each love poetry. We need to write it or are heads will blow off. We love to read poetry. We have people at home who do not get our obsessions. We have lost people who we deeply loved and that loss never seems to truly heal. We have small ones in our lives who first drain our energy and then restore it (miraculously)

Charmaine
Chircop

Date: 2/24/2016 4:27:00 PM

Ok Im going to start thinking of something positive eachone of you told me. Cyndi called me suncatcher : ), Craig told me I am on his fave. poets list and one of few, Becca once dedicated a poem for me, Catie said nic stuff in a commwnt about the times on Drake's show, Eileen called me soul sister, and Ruben told me I share the same birth date with his mum..He said other nice things too I believe : )... Can youremember something nice. these friends here said about you ? Im sure Ruben called Eileen sweet Baklava...Any one ? Want to share?

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/25/2016 3:21:00 PM

Yes Jimbo..It was a wonderful experience..Miss Drake too..Heisappeared d : (

James Marshall Goff
Date: 2/24/2016 6:51:00 PM

Char, I had SO MUCH FUN on Drake's show! Miss it!

Charmaine
Chircop

Date: 2/24/2016 4:02:00 PM

It is ok and actually healthy to agree to disagree about stuff regarding poetry,but. It hurts to see comments such as'The Syrians need a hero righ now '. ..that means more fatherless kids, more people,humanbeings like us dying.What dothe Syrians have to do with this site. You know what I say to the Syrians , Im sorry you need heroes right now,and Im sorry Europe,the continemt I make part of has part of the blood on its hands..Im sorry you have to pass through this. I really wish that all people hurt and involved here on poetrysoup will forget and forgive ..yes I saw that comment too.. If we could just remember something positive about eachother..Im sure many involved are hurt cuz deep down they care for eachother..and not the other way round. Families. fight..but families make up. .There is no better pride in life than that of shaking hands like women and men.. Love you all : P

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 11:11:00 PM

That comment was one of the reasons I've blocked Catie. She has been hurtful to me in the past and I will not have her made fun of me, the plight of the dying and displaced people of Syria...I just don't understand..Thank you for speaking up on this. I remember you were very pained when people poked fun at Malta, Charmaine. Please...put yourself in my shoes and think what it would feel like if someone called you troubled...beset by demons, unable to teach a class...and a nobody. It's nice to be sweet and kind...but I'm going to stay away from people who are unable to own up to their mistakes and apologize. Thanks for your comment.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/24/2016 1:49:00 PM

Eileen, this is my last post on your blog. I went to read Craig's blog... and was STUNNED... not because of what he wrote, but how you saw what he wrote. SERIOUSLY? This is what added to your heat? How I interpret his words: I am humbled at the entries for my contest. (So often we hear about the good stuff off soup, the published stuff, and) but there are some tremendous poets ON SOUP and I'm going to say it out loud. There are excellent poets on Soup and if anybody ever tells you different, send them to me, cause I know the talent is HERE. Now, did he say that? Not in those words. Did I hear that? YES. YES I DID. That is what I read into his words... not ridicule. PRIDE in SOUPERS.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/24/2016 10:30:00 AM

"I’ll give you 10 logical reasons for why they’re wrong and vice versa. Yes, freedom of expression is a fundamental right, and this is how I express, and YOU"RE NOBOGY TO TELL ME how to express. But, at the same time, we also have to see that as actors, we do affect people and their lives. I take myself as an example," says Sushant, explaining that while studying back in the day, he never had ambitions of becoming an actor or even entering the industry, but even then, every time he used to watch a film, it used to affect him in some capacity or the other." From this article: www.hindustantimes.com/bollywood/whatever-ankita-says-is-right-sushant-singh-rajput/story-EdjukRbQl4UgvY7x9wrnWO.html

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 12:01:00 PM

Well, perhaps you could read all the posts on this blog. You would see that some are agreeing with me. That's besides the soupmail. If it is all inside my head...I guess then a lot of people here on the site have it in theirs too, Ruben.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:51:00 AM

Cyndi...there are only a "few" who are opinionated and vocal to a point of being belligerent. I KNOW that many are frustrated with this "attitude"....to the point of leaving. Please, do believe that what I am saying is factual. You may disagree with me as much as you want. I don't think you will ever realize what this blog cost me.....I needed a whole day to gather up my courage to come back. I did. I will. I always will...because above everything...my opinion of myself is what matters most to me. I have to live with myself...and I will not be able to do that if I didn't stand up for what I think is right. I think that's all I will add to this blog. I've said what I want to say. I haven't got more to add.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:50:00 AM

After all of this, I will say I miss Linda Marie the Sweetheart of the Soup more than I can possibly say. Her poetry was not my poetry. She placed low on my contests. I rarely placed on hers. Yet we agreed to disagree on EVEYTHING except our characters. We never agreed on what poetry is or can be. But we were good friends and I miss her. Especially today. Out of here.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:46:00 AM

I cried because what I had wanted to say did not come out right and I was frustrated that my words (I'd thought) had been so misunderstood. I am sorry if you feel silly because I cannot agree with you about a difference in opinion on art, but it is going to happen! We are going to feel differently. I mean the big "WE." The hundreds of members on soup.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:39:00 AM

At the end of the day....I'm proud of myself for standing up to this. It has taken it's toll. I was just going to ignore Cas's blog because I know how it would play out....but I will not be silenced from voicing my opinion, and I will not be shamed for having it....I am SOMEBODY...and I am precious. Those who do not feel that way, need not visit my poems, blogs, or anything else. If nothing else...this has been a great learning experience for me.

Rob Carmack
Date: 2/24/2016 10:38:00 AM

Beatrice, you would have made an excellent politician.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:36:00 AM

I do believe that civility is a sign of progress. Mud slinging....is not a sign of an advanced society, Cyndi. I'm all for expressing opinions. I should not be made to feel that it is silly to post a pic. Whether you like it or not, Cyndi. I'm a SOMEBODY....created in the image of God. When I'm put down....he's being put down. Voice your opinions, but any comment about my person, my beliefs, my education...I will call you on it. Also, perhaps I need to repost the blog rules. If TPS has rules about blogs...and someone goes out of the rules....I think they can be taken to task on it in legal ways?!

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/24/2016 9:54:00 AM

What I am reading below shows that what is really bothering people has little to do with one blog or one comment or even one person. It is a build-up of long term grievances and YES MISUNDERSTANDINGS and hurts piled upon hurts. Not sure if there is a way to fix that. Not sure if anyone REALLY wants to fix that. Maybe, like in counseling, we can put a post RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW about what they want to happen .. "I want to be able to discuss the art of poetry on a blog with our like minded poets who want to grow without being called elitist. I want a chance to explore what PROFESSORS recognize as good poetry TODAY and do so without worrying that someone feels I am mocking their poetry

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:45:00 AM

That's fine. I don't post 20000000 pics...again...using hyperbole. Anyway...the point it...You don't like pics...that's fine....don't make me feel like a little kid because I do like to do so. Check the comments Ruben made on that...Craig to Jan....Calling me a trouble maker. Please...try to read and be objective. I am on the path...You just don't realize it. I'm just saying.....TO WHOEVER needs to read this. Shaming others...won't make them want to be on that path.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:35:00 AM

I AM NOT ASKING OTHERS TO TAKE MY PATH. But there are some on Soup who are on my path, too. It is okay to disagree about things. Go ahead. Post 20000000000 pics. It has nothing to do with me. But I DO like to read poetry that has no pics and will say that freely. You like pics. I don't like pics. I do like Eileen. I don't like pics.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:32:00 AM

An argument that has been brewing for some time....with other people voicing opinions on blogs. Still...I see that you think that comments about a person's sanity are ok. One comment I made about picture books (in reference to Ruben) and you were crying. How much strength do you think I have to take this kind of demeaning attitudes. My blog did not mention names. I speak for many who are afraid to speak. You must realize that not all will be on that path to perfection. "You can bring a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink." You can bring a student to knowledge, but he has to decide what to do about it. Therefore, let people do what they want to do about pics, contests, and what have you. There is NO excuse for being uncivil. I'm sorry.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:16:00 AM

Dear, I did read that...and I was very happy with it. Honestly, that was a reference to Ruben's comment on Cas's blog or on this one...I can't remember. Came after your Bronte post...I think. You have misunderstood me, Cyndi. I appreciated the comment you made on that, but not Ruben's. His was not of that nature.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:13:00 AM

OOOOOOOOOH... See, I wrote that TOO. I mentioned picture books because I am actually writing picture books and there is NOTHING WRONG with writing books for children! I am happy writing for kids and find it fun and gratifying.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:09:00 AM

My picture book comment was in reference to Ruben, Cyndi. I am not distorting anything. You may not have read all the comments on Cas's blog.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:06:00 AM

I am upto five manuscripts and I was REALLY suggesting that people may like to do it, too! SEE!!! SEE how people distort what you say!!!

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:04:00 AM

I DID NOT MEAN THAT AS SARCASM! I AM REALLY WRITING |PICTURE BOOKS AND IF YOU WANT I WILL SEND YOU THE MANUSCRIPTS TO YOU IN EMAIL! I meant it and now you have made me cry! What ??? because I enjoy reading picture books with my daughter...???!!! I MEANT THAT!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 9:59:00 AM

Cyndi...Apparantly, you did not read the message I in boxed you. I have explained the terminology I have used. I will not repeat, dear. I'm happy for your blog of discussing poetry. I will join when I am able. I want to get better at what I do...and I appreciate that. Please understand that this is in reference to the comments back and forth and to the banter that accompanies blogs....Referring to those who want to post pics as those who want to use picture books...Surely, Cyndi...you do recognize sarcasm when you read it? That is what I am referring to...Comments made about sponsors who do not know how to judge a contest because they themselves are not aware of the proper use of form. Though there may be truth in that, the simple solution would be...NOT TO JOIN THAT CONTEST. This is what I am referring to...among other things. I do hope that you understand my point.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 9:55:00 AM

Cyndi....I wonder if you read the message I in boxed you on FB. Again...you fail to see my point. The dog named blue...I'm glad that you admit his is elementary. We are all elementary. Humility is a great virtue to have...but when someone posts a blog and claims that all writers in HIS contest are REAL writers....that kind of says something about what they view other writers to be. I have said time and again...on your blogs and on Debbie's blogs...I love to learn and am open to learning. That last sentence...was not necessary, dear....SHEESH. The mic is on...I'm listening, perhaps you are not getting the point and need to be more selective in reading and listening.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/24/2016 9:47:00 AM

Every single poet on soup, me, you, a dog named blue, ARE ELEMENTARY. Each of us are either new or developing poets! Jeez, I'm working on my craft constantly, freely admit that I am HUMBLED by some of the published and award winning poetry out there and I look at that poetry with such AWE because I am not there yet and may never get there. I AM SITLL IN GRADE SCHOOL when it comes to poetry and I say this freely and passionately and without SHAME. Why is it so hard for some people to admit? Me? If you want I will wear it on a tee shirt! (she taps the microphone) IS THIS THING ON? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? Sheesh.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:47:00 AM

It wasn't in reference to Ruben...Friends fight..sure. Friends MAKE AMENDS...Friends APOLOGIZE. Please, Cyndi...May I ask a favor? Would you please realize that this is not about TO PIC or NOT TO PIC....NOTHING is worth this gut wrenching dialogue. This is about an ATTITUDE...something that has been going on for some time. Sarcasm and put downs....should NOT be part of the dialogue. That is the point of my blog. I stick to it.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:32:00 AM

FRIENDS argue, too. Friends spit, pull hair (at times) and let it out! I freely and openly have said Ruben and I ONCE, ONLY ONCE, had a row. And it was good and it opened a channel and we are good friends. Not hiding a thing, Eileen. Well, not MY CRAP. But I hide other peoples crap all the time.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:28:00 AM

IT IS AN ARGUMENT. You posted an angry blog and then expect people to pour tea and not snap? See note above.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:22:00 AM

The only one who can say...I'm a nobody and have the true meaning for it is our dear Emily Dickinson. When Ruben says..."You're nobody to tell people what they can and can't do," he did not mean that in a pleasant way, I assure you. Again...you are not addressing the points I bring up. Is it right to refer to someone as a nincompoop because they don't hold your opinions on a matter? Can you honestly tell me that the comments made to me on this blog were not derogatory when you have previously said that you've been hurt by the very same? That's what I don't understand, Cyndi.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:18:00 AM

I can't understand the same about you. Part of speech....? There are eight parts of speech. Did you mean....it's an idiom?

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:14:00 AM

I do not understand how you can't understand!!!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:11:00 AM

Cyndi...you are going over the line here. "You are nobody to tell people what to do and not to do." I'm sorry, there aren't too many ways to read that. Your comment here is over the line, Cyndi. I'm sorry you have taken this stance. I have written nothing but praise for you and your work. This saddens me.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:08:00 AM

IT IS A SAYING EILEEN! IT IS PART OF SPEECH! He didn't call you a nobody. See the difference... Hey, you're a nobody. Nope. You're nobody to call me a perfectionist. It means its the pot calling the kettle black. GOOGLE IT!!!!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:07:00 AM

I applaud you on that. I have NEVER had a bone to pick with you, Cyndi. I don't know why you have taken this personally. In the blog...I made mention of those who are published and are knowledgeable....You are in those lines. Why are you so vexed now? I don't understand....

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:03:00 AM

I can't believe in that wealth of emotion that you feel for those less fortunate, those who struggle, you can't come to grips with someone questioning my teaching ability, my sanity, my integrity as something that is OK....Really? I think perhaps you did not read Craig's comment. Perhaps I need to repost it here so you can read it again...or being called a NOBODY..surely, surely, Cyndi, you see this as being rather demeaning.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 10:01:00 AM

PS-- Even though my work has been published, even though my work has been used in universities, it means NOTHING. I AM SITLL IN THE BABY STAGES. I am toddling, falling, failing. And I am fine with someone telling me I have MILES TO GO!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:01:00 AM

I think that I have to be pointed in my response, Cyndi. Have you not at some point been offended yourself by the kind of terminology used by some on this site? I remember someone calling people nincompoops...those who do not know what they are doing in poetry. Do you find that uplifting. Were you not yourself at one point put off and hurt that you did not get an apology. Must I be pointed to get this difficult point across?

Rob
Carmack

Date: 2/24/2016 8:59:00 AM

I am sorry that they hurt you, but I am glad you are strong enough to get back up. I guess in some way, The Beautiful People see themselves as ‘weeding the garden’ when they intimidate others to leave this site. Reminds me of Proverbs 27:20; “Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied”. Like I have done for some of their other victims here before, I got your back too Eileen. Hugs

Rob Carmack
Date: 2/24/2016 10:22:00 AM

You are welcome Eileen. They tear you down because it makes them feel better, it makes them feel better than even the praise they get, because they see others getting praise too. They want and need to be better than others, it's what The Beautiful People do.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:14:00 AM

Thanks, Rob. I believe that they will never see the point. I see that from the comments made back and forth. You praise someone...and they wind up tearing you down. I don't understand that. My blog, in essence, was saying....Do what you want to do because you think you know better...leave those who want to do it their way...to do it their way. I don't understand what's so hard to understand in that, but.....I guess words are misconstrued all over the place. Thanks for understanding, Rob. Hugs

Julia
Ward

Date: 2/24/2016 8:58:00 AM

I think my comment was deleted by mistake. I am putting it again. Christopher Marlowe DID NOT outshine Shakespeare. Shakespeare was the greatest writer who has ever lived.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:56:00 AM

:) Thank you, Rob. By the way...that sonnet form that we are so proud of? That originated in Italy.... ;) Also...Romeo and Juliet...that is the English version of Pyramus and Thisbe. Also...Hamlet? There actually WAS a Danish prince whose story is that SAME as Shakespeare's play! Imagine that. He's a great writer...but there is nothing new under the sun. Hugs, Rob.

Rob Carmack
Date: 2/24/2016 10:27:00 AM

Shakespeare was like Edison, a great business man. Marlowe was hired by Shakespeare to be his ghost writer.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 9:52:00 AM

Hi, Julia...There is some discussion as to whether or not all of Shakespeare's writes can be attributed to him. Some believe that some of his writes were actually written by Marlowe. This is the belief held by some. I have watched a documentary on it. I love Shakespeare and am intrigued by all his writes. I am teaching a class entitled, Shakespeare and His Contemporaries. I'm also fascinated by the work of John Donne...Death be not Proud...astounding!

Rob
Carmack

Date: 2/24/2016 6:10:00 AM

Eileen, it is good to see you take a stand against 'The Beautiful People'. These types of blogs are so revealing of our true selves.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:05:00 AM

Thank you, Rob. I was told I'm "nobody to tell people what to do." My sanity, my integrity, my teaching skills, my intentions were all questioned. It's Ok...This is a microcosm of the real world...and it gets ugly out there. I won't lie...It hurt me to the core...but I won't let it keep me down. Thanks for caring...Hugs

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/24/2016 4:52:00 AM

I have come back to read some posts. Not all. This blog has nothing to do with Cas. I was mentioning comments made to ME on Cas's blog. I stick to my guns about some here have a superior attitude when it comes to poetry and know what is RIGHT. It is fluid...and not up to anyone's judgement. I made myself clear on my comments in the blog...I made no mention of names...People came and starting lambasting...the same people who PERPETUALLY lambaste and belittle on blogs. Your turning it into banter does not detract from the original purpose it was written. I am not an expert in poetry...I welcome opportunities to learn. Please DO NOT have selective reading. I expect apologies from Craig, Ruben

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 5:07:00 AM

I wasn't wrong. I will state my opinion when I need to. I will take the heat. I will call people out on bullying. I will copy and paste and send to TPS.. or whatever other source I need to for people breaking blog rules as I have in the past when I got TPS to remove comments that maligned character. You talk of community and they you all cower when people in the community are bullied...says a great deal about your morals and integrity...but this I mean..MYSELF. Someone questioned my sanity, my ability as a teacher, my integrity and most of you said and did NOTHING. I'm learning a lot....Thank you for being my character development opportunities. I will have more to say....later.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 5:04:00 AM

I stand by what I have written. I understand that as with selective hearing...people will read what they want to read. I've stayed away from blogs because frankly.....the put downs get too much. People ON THIS VERY BLOG have mentioned being hurt by the people I have mentioned, but they will not be forthright in admitting it. That's Ok. The one thing you must know about me...I call it as it is. There is someone here who has been banned...and is back under a pseudonym...this person has cause problems. There is a person who has been locked out due to belligerent behavior. There is a person here who has had a blog removed because of foul language...and I AM THE ONE BEING told off? Really? You can speak all you want an interpret all you want. The truth speaks for itself. Thank you all very much. Sorry I haven't read ALL posts...I don't need to. I knew how it would play out...

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 4:56:00 AM

and Catie...but it is NOT the first time said individuals have attacked me. I stand by the fact that I perceive their behavior as bullying...They have made apologies before....They need to again. I know they will not...and this is expected with that....."You misunderstood" me line! Maligning of character is a serious offense...In all the mumble jumble that has ensured...the GROSS put-down by Craig has been overlooked. As well as Catie's reading into things that she has no business to. This blog is about bullying that has been going on for some time....a souper is leaving because of it. I have gotten email from another two soupers regarding this matter. if TPS chooses to be blind about it....I WILL NOT.

Rob
Carmack

Date: 2/23/2016 10:53:00 PM

Eileen, I am sorry to learn that you friend is leaving due to the hurt dealers. I applaud your efforts with this blog, but they will not be able to see.

Anthony Mark
Date: 2/24/2016 12:46:00 PM

I seem to remember you having a couple of names ? , Mark is my real name , the other was not....shhhhhhhh they might turf me out again....lol

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:01:00 AM

Mark...."Mark"...or should I address you using your real name??? I have NOT left the building. I was in the building WAY before you knew the building existed....back in your name changing days, dear. You only leave the building or change names if you have something to hide. I have not left...I will not leave...I am in it for the long haul....

Anthony Mark
Date: 2/24/2016 2:03:00 AM

Eileen .....left the building !

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/23/2016 11:06:00 AM

PS-- I am waiting to hear back from three publishers for three different PICTURE BOOK MANUSCRIPTS. I love writing books for kids and have found it fun and inspiring! After re-reading your blog, I am worried that one of my comments was taken out of context!!! I am trying to get a picture book published and I am excited by this venture. I have fingers and toes crossed because I love reading picture books with my young daughter... it would mean the world to me to have one published FOR HER. Anyways, I wanted to clarify that point! xoxox

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 2:19:00 PM

Thanks Becca. I will need the luck!!! FIERCE market. I'll just keep writing and fixing and submitting. I'm hoping tenacity and the ability to revise my work gets me somewhere, uh, eventually :D A few years, maybe??

Debbie Guzzi
Date: 2/23/2016 11:56:00 AM

Debbie
Guzzi

Date: 2/23/2016 10:21:00 AM

This whole thing makes me want to run & hide if I can't learn from others & share what I've learned. There's no place for me here either.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:23:00 AM

You can certainly learn from others, Debbie. I joined your Sijo contest to learn...got first place. I joined Craig's contests in new forms to LEARN. You KNOW from my post on your blog about the sonnets...I LOVE to learn. Please....do keep these things in mind. I have inboxed you on FB...Kindly take a moment to read that. Thank you.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 2:18:00 PM

Now, if anyone wants to believe they are Neener Noner from planet Zerkov and they like to write the doodley doo form, I'm good with that. If they tell me I should "shut up woman and kiss my ring" then that? Ummm.. I'm not okay with.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 2:15:00 PM

Becca, not sure if it was the "meter God" you are talking about, but see the Elvis I knew didn't tell me that I couldn't be Cyndi or that Cyndi was really a jar of applesauce. Nope. However, I did have one guy show up on my pages and tell me I was not writing poetry and that he could fix it.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:44:00 AM

Sorry, Bet. That comment was for someone who obviously rethought their comment, probably decided it added more fuel to the fire. Gotta fly. Love ya! xoxox You keep sharing!

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:37:00 AM

Look, there was a guy who visited a store I used to manage (a lifetime ago) and he literally thought he was Elvis. I didn't argue with him. If he wants to believe he is Elvis, he can go right ahead and think he is the King of Rock and Roll. What is it TO ME? His business.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:25:00 AM

Hello, there! I got me duct tape. Either that or you and I are doing a Thelma and Louise! xoxoxox

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:24:00 AM

Whoever has never ranted, never blown something out of proportion, never said something that they regret, never put their foots in their mouths, never inadvertently hurt feelings, never made a fool out of themselves, never loved to much, yelled too loud or put up too much of a fuss EVER, not even once, please raise your hands.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/23/2016 8:46:00 AM

Okay, here we go again! So, a professor saying she is a professor is showing off? NO!! She is not! I love you guys ... We need to stop! If I say I'm published, I'm showing off, strutting, even though it took me numerous rejections, rewrites, kicks in the teeth to get there and when I share it here, I am lucky to get some "way to go's" from friends (which means the world to me because I worked my BUTT OFF to get those publications) It isn't elite. It isn't egotistical. It isn't me grinding my thumb at people. It's me... a kid who just got an B+ coming home with my test to SHOW MY FAMILY what I was able to do. Some knew where I was coming from. Others? Were snide, blew spitballs. I even saw some soupers say that published poets don't belong on Soup, for pete's sake!!!! How do you think that felt, huh??? It was COLD! Talk about fricking "Educating Rita!" Like that scene where the husband takes the books from the wife and starts ripping them up. STAY THE SAME OR LEAVE. I can be here, enjoy the Soup Gems -- people and poetry--- and still be myself, can't I?? People should not feel ANXIETY over sharing their successes, tiny or large. We need to accept we are each on our own path... and enjoy that path without feeling SLIGHTED when someone is on another path. Is it so hard???? I want a REBOOT! I want a REBOOT TO SOUP!!!!!!!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:28:00 AM

Dear....Please don't let discussions you have had with others on other blogs...in which Ruben was arbitrating...project into what you are saying to me here on this blog, Cyndi. I have always looked up to you and admired all your hard work in pursuing your dreams and getting published. I am happy for you. Your comments, Debbie's comments carry weight with me. Please refer back to comments I've made on previous blogs.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/24/2016 9:37:00 AM

Eileen, This is what I admit: I AM STILL ELEMENTARY! Yup! I don't know everything. I freely admit I am a work-in-progress, a developing poet, not yet fully matured in her art. See? EASY!!!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:25:00 AM

I have emailed you in FB. Kindly read my comment there. I will not be misquoted or misinterpreted, Cyndi. You need to read carefully all the conversation that has taken place on this blog.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:18:00 AM

I'm happy for your success, Cyndi. I am proud of Debbie. You know that from the comments I've made on your blogs...I wrote something for Debbie on her book. Craig...in his last blog regarding his contest...Park..said something to the effect of...don't think there aren't good poets out there!!! There are fantastic ones and they have all contributed to my contest. I don't expect any of you to admit that some of the discussion that goes on about the poetry that is going on around here and contests does make other poets feel elementary in their endeavors. I'm sorry...I've read enough on other blogs to know there were discussions and arguments on that.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 2:45:00 PM

Ruben, its not done but I can send you what I have... tonight! Thanks!

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:39:00 AM

LOVE YA CRAIG! I think I know only three people on Soup who would never admit they wear the halos, but they do! The rest of us? LOL... well, we are struggling to be better, two steps forward, one step back. HUGS!

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:26:00 AM

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 10:20:00 AM

Craig, thanks! I am so proud of my girl! She works hard and is so curious about EVERYTHING. She wants to learn sign language! Each night, she opens a book and tries a new word! I keep encouraging the growth... the exploration... and if she tires of it? That is fine, too...

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/23/2016 9:33:00 AM

Moody and dark ..Did you say moody and dark ? : )..See you around : ) sweet lady.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 9:23:00 AM

Love you, Suncatcher! I'm off, now, FINALLY... I am 3000 words into a short story that is very moody and dark, even more so than Soup ;) (That was me teasing, not swatting) xoxox

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/23/2016 9:14:00 AM

Hi dear Cyndi...Nice to see you..Saying is a professor cuz you are one is not showing off...The same goes wiith saying you are published. To be honest I am happy when one of us soupers get published,and I feel it an hono(u)r , that these people make part of this soup family. .Hugs Cyn...

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 9:07:00 AM

Hatman, our friendship BEGAN because I took something personally and you were kind enough to nudge me. Minds change all the time, like I said... ;)

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 9:05:00 AM

Hatman, I know I know... what is it Puck says..??... something about the same... in other words, pot and kettle. I totally AGREE 100% that when a blog asks for our opinion, We should be able to give that opinion without people taking everything personally. But then again...lol... I have taken things personally, too.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 8:58:00 AM

Tired. Wired. Writing like crazy. Trying to meet deadlines. Mothering. (Girl GOT A'S!!! Yup I'm a proud Mama!) Sick of winter. How are you, hon? xoxo

Richard
Lamoureux

Date: 2/23/2016 7:43:00 AM

In reading Eileen's blog she spoke on the topic of bullying in a generic way. Eileen did not make any personal attacks. Is there anyone who does not agree that bullying should not be tolerated? I think those that are making personal attacks should be removed from the site. I'm surprised Poetry Soup has not stepped in.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 7:29:00 AM

Richard...I'm also surprised. Thanks for caring. Hugs

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 9:07:00 AM

Sorry Richard! Reply jumped!

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 2/23/2016 9:04:00 AM

Julia Ward
Date: 2/23/2016 8:43:00 AM

The fact they haven't shows that the matter is exaggerated, Richard.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 2/23/2016 7:41:00 AM

Eileen, you and I are so very similar that I should just call you sister-from-another-mother. I know that you are hurting for your friend and that you (like I am) are protective of those who you adore. Also, we both reach a boiling point and then --finally-- erupt. Yup. Happened to me recently and you were kind, understanding, as I am of you. I left Soup for a while because I was tired of being judged as being a know-it-all, even when I said I was still on a quest to learn. I am still on that journey. I, too, have seen many friends leave Soup, and I know that can hurt, frustrate and even enrage. My advice to your friend is to write and post poetry as he/she sees fit. I agree that critiquing should only be offered to poets that would appreciate that attention, time and effort. It takes a great deal of interest and care to give a REAL critique (with a purpose to improve work, not hurt feelings.) I support that everyone is entitled to create and illustrate their poems/writing however they wish, OF COURSE. Now, did you know that TPS first BANNED pictures? YUP!!!! THEY FORBID US TO POST PICTURES. We whined and we pleaded ... and they said, "We prefer to keep the poetry pages as poetry pages, simple and uncluttered.. or something of that nature (I paraphrased, here) Then, they realized it was a good way to build up the PM base. So, they changed their minds. So, even TPS can change their minds on illustrated poetry, as can any of us. Heck, I may change my mind forty times today. Keeps life interesting. Hugs to you, Eileen. And I hope your friend changes her/his mind. It's a huge site and it can hold a lot of different opinions, personalities and poetic choices. ;) xoxox

Richard Lamoureux
Date: 2/23/2016 7:46:00 AM

Great advice Cyndi! Also never apologize for being knowledgable and wanting to help people improve their craft. I have always found your comments to be thoughtfully expressed.

Lu
Loo

Date: 2/22/2016 8:45:00 PM

Eileen..." but once you start making fun of people and lording it over them with your superior airs....that's what I call uncivil behavior...and it has to stop. PERIOD.".. I couldn't have said it any better. I had the same problems on the past saying I was not good enough. I almost left and took a couple days off, cried myself to sleep, but I told myself I am the better person and they should be humiliated! Jealousy comes all the time. Cruelty needs to stop and so does unfair justice in such a wonderful fellowship we all strive for. I will back you anytime Eileen.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 10:58:00 AM

Thanks, dear. I'm sorry I didn't see this post earlier. It would have really helped me a great deal. :) Thank you for your comment, sweetie. We need to hang in there and get the job done. Hugs

Lu Loo
Date: 2/22/2016 8:46:00 PM

THANK YOU FOR TELLING THE TRUTH! I gained more respect for you after reading this. I am grateful you expressed this concern..have a great night sweet lady :)

Eve
Roper

Date: 2/22/2016 7:22:00 PM

Bravo, sweet lady I hope they listen

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/24/2016 11:01:00 AM

Thanks, Eve. I appreciate it. I don't have high hopes for that. Hugs

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/22/2016 4:05:00 PM

Oh...and by the way. I'm done with this blog. The rest is for later.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:20:00 PM

You didn't read Craig's comments well....about teaching? Please go back and read carefully, dear. I remember you telling me how livid you were when someone maligned your character here....Ruben. Amends were made eventually, though. Maybe that can happen here too. You were upset though. Anything that maligns is upsetting, dear....

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:19:00 PM

Take one to know one!!! ;)

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:09:00 PM

For those of you reading...I did NOT mention any names in my blog. People jumped in and posted comments about my character and my mental health. This is called maligning of character.You may check Ruben and Craig's comments to get that information. It's 12:07. Though I've been told I'm not fit to be a teacher...I have two classes to teach tomorrow and a reading club to lead out in. Goodnight.

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/22/2016 3:56:00 PM

I am at peace. I am happy. I have stood up to the bullies. I will take the proper measures for this blog......whatever that may be.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:50:00 PM

No kidding? Are you crying too? Good night.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:35:00 PM

To stop is easy....just...stop.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:23:00 PM

Not sure, but you can judge poetry fine! Oh dear....stopping or not stopping does not change the meaning, dear. Did you know I teach grammar? Debbie has me on the back of her book...Eileen Ghali..MA in teaching with a emphasis in English. We can all play this game, Ruben.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:04:00 PM

Saying I'm a nobody...is bullying. That is demeaning. It is a value judgement on my character. This is NOT only about pics or not pics. NOTHING is that trivial. It is about you making fun of poems that are not up to par....You've laughed about them on other blogs. Not mine...but other poems. You posted a comment on someone's poems ONLY about the number of pics this person posted. THAT is not your prerogative. You don't need to apologize. I think in your heart you know what I'm talking about. Sarcasm and put downs....is not pleasant.

Richard
Lamoureux

Date: 2/22/2016 3:29:00 PM

As you know I tend to stay away from blogs. Seeing people being cruel is difficult to watch. I know you have a heart for people and you don't want them to be hurt. I'm sorry you are being hurt in the process. Hugs Rick.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 3:50:00 PM

You know the poet in question, Richard. you commented on her poem about deleting her poems. She inboxed me to copy her poem of dedication before she deleting all her poems. Thank you for visiting the blogs. I am deeply hurt in the process, but I'm stronger for it. I can face up to bullies. There are those who cannot. Thanks for coming by.

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/22/2016 2:38:00 PM

Eileen, You are correct about the "enough is enough" because you have taken over as the Drama Queen of the soup and it seems that like a ticking bomb you wait ready to implode, usually upon yourself, because you create your own wars on someone else's behalf. How can you ever hold an intellectual "Class" on something you can not conceptualize yourself! You are the personification of the proverbial "Mountain out of a Molehill". Get a grip dear and go take some pills and a deep breath or two or three, because your tantrums are exhausting.(Comment by Craig Cronish because he will inevitably delete his comment. I want this to stay. This is the man I lauded for teaching me more about the sonnets.)

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:42:00 PM

Thanks, dear. Thank you for providing me an example of bullying. I couldn't have asked for a better example. Thank you.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:40:00 PM

You've been locked out before because of your behavior, Craig. What you did was uncalled for. It is not forgivable or excusable. Yes. I have done so. Yes, I will write to TPS. Thanks for being kind....Really. Your temper will one day get the better of you.

Eileen
Manassian

Date: 2/22/2016 2:27:00 PM

Dear Eileen, you're nobody to tell people what they should or shouldn't do. Do you teach an argument class? Red hiring? Yes, to get all the attention you need (<--relevant issue) you use the pics (<-- to mislead, to distract) as an excuse. I got it. I rest my case.....

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:24:00 PM

For that....I applaud you!

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:45:00 PM

This is a comment by Ruben....The above comment.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:32:00 PM

No, Craig. Good try at humor on an important topic, though. A red herring is a fallacy used in argumentation...you know like the slippery slope, ad hominem, Post hoc ergo propter hoc, the bandwagon...You know...fallacies one must watch for in an argumentation. Red Herring....leading everyone on a wild goose check so they forget the case at hand. There you go...Now you know.

Charmaine
Chircop

Date: 2/22/2016 12:36:00 PM

Eileen I had friends telling me that they dnt like it when I add images to my poetry cuz my poetry is enough on its own..To be honest I never got offended,cuz its only their opinion,and maybe they are right at times,but I still upload images when I feel to ..Sometimes an image or songs inspires me ,so I add it above,other times Its something deeper that inspires,so no pics or links are added to my posts..As far as its an oponion,I dnt mind..but if its bullying..Nope ,I ll never support that..We are here to help eachother and not to put down eachother. If its a misunderstanfding between the commenter and the poet who posted his poem..Guess they should sort it out.. Im sorry if someone leaves

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 4:14:00 PM

In case you think I'm making things up...Richard Lamoureux posted on her poem about leaving and deleting her poems. I'm sure you wouldn't question Richard as he is deemed as having integrity. Thank you.

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/22/2016 4:04:00 PM

I dont know who is leaving Ruben..Whoever it is...I hate Goodbyes

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/22/2016 3:20:00 PM

Ok ..I read Cas's blog dear Eileen..apart from the thinking chair and time out, Im considering a 100 times copy .'I must behave at soup'..Better be quiet..or He might end up with a detention..and stay after-soup... .Goodnight Eileen and Ruben. I hope this person who is leaving consider to stay dear.Its really sad when things end up this way...Hugs

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:20:00 PM

Thanks, dear....I'll try to be sweet tomorrow....I'm tired too. This blog took a lot out of me.....Hugs

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 2:19:00 PM

Thanks, dear....I'll try to be sweet tomorrow....I'm tired too. This blog took a lot out of me.....Hugs

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 1:01:00 PM

Good, Ruben...remember....I never even mentioned your name...You come out in the open. I'm sticking my tongue back out at you. Charmaine is the lucky charm....

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 12:46:00 PM

Hey sweetie....maybe if you read Cas's blog, you will get an idea. You are a beautiful soul....I trust your opinion. Read it and let me know if I've gone overboard. Love ya. I do think Ruben needs a time out though.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 12:42:00 PM

You too, Ruben. You too.

Charmaine Chircop
Date: 2/22/2016 12:39:00 PM

Eileen..Lets send Ruben on the thinking chair,and afterwards in time -out ..If its to do with him B-)

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 12:36:00 PM

Ruben...is it is sin? Of course not. When you hurt people....yes...that is not nice. It isn't. You have a tough skin....good for you. Others don't. For those of us who claim Christianity as our religion....Paul says to be gentle with those who are weak. So by whatever way you look at it...making someone feel inadequate...isn't nice. I'm not saying I'm perfect...I've messed up too...but this is a persistent thing.

Jan
Allison

Date: 2/22/2016 11:41:00 AM

Bravo Eileeen - I have felt extremely demotivated recently after comments blogs and have also been criticised in the past for using images with my poems - we have the facility as Premium members and should not be put down for using it. It saddens me that people feel compelled to leave the site with continued bullying and intimidation - there really is no excuse for this type of behaviour:-( hugs jan xx

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 12:24:00 PM

OH dear....You don't give up...do you, Ruben. Yes, I need a hug...from a guy who used to call me Baklava. Come on over....I have a friend leaving. Maybe that's where the attention needs to be, dear.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 12:00:00 PM

Not many will applaud, dear. I'm waiting for the backlash, but....I can't be silent. I'll take a beating for it....but I won't be silent. I can write to TPS with specific instances. I've said this before...if people band together and and write the names of "repeat offenders" maybe TPS will do something about it. I'm all for living in peace, but I won't be talked down to...and I won't let people accuse of things that they themselves do. Thanks for dropping by, dear. Hugs

Tim
Smith

Date: 2/22/2016 11:13:00 AM

Perfect Eileen. Who am I to judge another. I have many flaws. I am not above anyone. We should all be treated with respect and we should all respect one another. It is so sad good poets/friends leave because they are being bullied or intimidated by others. It is uncivil behavior.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 11:57:00 AM

My friend is discouraged, Tim, and was going to wait out till the PM expired, but the way things are....this person feels unable to continue. I am protective of my friends and of my work. I don't know why it's so hard just to stay away from what aggravates. I stay away from people who have hurt me in the past and whom I know do not have my best interest at heart. Surely there is place enough for all of us. Thanks, dear. Hugs

Mandy
Tams The Golden Girl

Date: 2/22/2016 10:36:00 AM

you rock, girl and that's a good thing xx

Eileen Manassian
Date: 2/22/2016 10:44:00 AM

Thanks, Mandy. Hon...Congrats on your achievement. I read Harry's blog. SO sweet of him to bring everyone's attention to it. Those are the kinds of blogs that are uplifting. I had a Valentine one up. This is ONGOING...over and over and over again, Mandy. I know from a comment you posted about infighting that it has tired you as well. Hugs, dear. Keep being....the GOLDEN GIRL.

My Past Blog Posts


Where Poetry Goes, I Follow Date Posted: 5/16/2020 10:01:00 AM
Happy Birthday, Richard Date Posted: 9/8/2019 2:23:00 AM
Greetings and Apologies and Explanations Date Posted: 10/11/2018 12:09:00 AM
Happy Birthday Paul Callus, My Collaborator Date Posted: 2/16/2018 3:51:00 AM
A Request Date Posted: 11/28/2017 3:16:00 PM
Happy Birthday, Richard Lamoureux Date Posted: 9/8/2017 2:47:00 AM
Voices for Change Date Posted: 8/23/2017 9:44:00 AM
POTD and Thanks Date Posted: 8/9/2017 4:24:00 AM
Just a Note Date Posted: 8/7/2017 9:08:00 AM
Prayers for Broken Wings Date Posted: 6/7/2017 5:08:00 PM
A Message From Flo Date Posted: 5/18/2017 12:54:00 AM
Charming Charmaine Date Posted: 5/1/2017 8:44:00 AM
In The Midst of Life, We are in Death Date Posted: 4/27/2017 5:00:00 AM
Words set to Music Date Posted: 3/7/2017 2:14:00 AM
Happy Birthday, Mr Seal Date Posted: 3/1/2017 1:54:00 PM
POTD, PATIENCE and PRAISE Date Posted: 1/26/2017 1:54:00 PM
The Love of a Friend Date Posted: 1/13/2017 3:25:00 PM
On Brazil...Tattoos...Hacksaw Ridge and Weight Loss! Date Posted: 11/17/2016 7:44:00 PM
Happy Birthday, Richard... Date Posted: 9/8/2016 6:55:00 AM
Happy Birthday, Demetrios Trifiatis Date Posted: 8/15/2016 1:45:00 AM
Double Whammy! (The Power of Words & I'm a Youtuber now!) Date Posted: 5/20/2016 6:33:00 PM
Happy Birthday Mama Bear Date Posted: 5/18/2016 5:35:00 AM
In Joy and in Sorrow Date Posted: 5/2/2016 12:09:00 PM
Happy Birthday, Charmaine Date Posted: 5/1/2016 9:20:00 AM
A Word of Thanks Date Posted: 4/10/2016 12:37:00 PM

My Recent Poems

Date Posted	PoemTitle	Form	Categories
5/4/2024	The Seasons of Our Love	Dramatic Monologue	longing,lost love,nostalg
5/3/2024	I Hate this World	Quatrain	anger,angst,planet,world,
4/29/2024	My Favorite Star	Rhyme	crush,dedication,tribute,
4/8/2024	Unruly Thoughts at Play	Rhyme	Lullaby,nostalgia,romanti
4/3/2024	When Moon is Full	Blank verse	absence,lost love,
10/15/2023	Poets Are a Funny Lot	Rhyme	poetry,poets,
9/23/2023	Romantic Reminiscence	Rhyme	how i feel,romance,
9/6/2023	Why Leave So Soon?	Rhyme	death,student,tribute,
9/5/2023	I Loved You Once	Rhyme	longing,lost love,romance
7/25/2023	This Too Shall Pass	Quatrain	courage,mental health,
7/25/2023	My Mental Health	Rhyme	anxiety,mental health,
1/15/2023	I Miss You	Rhyme	longing,lost love,
12/4/2022	I Want You	Free verse	desire,longing,passion,
9/25/2022	The Passing	Dramatic Monologue	feelings,passion,
1/24/2022	The Introverted Mood of Night	Rhyme	heartbroken,lost love,
10/19/2021	Where Will He Sleep Tonight	Rhyme	child,pain,poverty,
6/4/2021	It Was Easy	Free verse	mother daughter,relations
3/27/2021	Forgotten	Dramatic Monologue	feelings,friendship,
6/16/2020	Free Lebanon Today	Acrostic	conflict,courage,
6/5/2020	Never Silent	Free verse	discrimination,judgement,
5/14/2020	To the Fallen of Covid 19	Iambic Pentameter	tribute,
5/7/2020	Fireflies Or Fairies	Rhyme	imagination,longing,love,
4/27/2020	Lockdown Lockout	Rubaiyat	loneliness,marriage,solit
4/15/2020	Don'T	Quatrain	poetry,poets,pride,writin
4/14/2020	A Sweeter Scent	Sedoka	mental illness,
3/31/2020	The Worst of Deaths	Sonnet	dark,death,loss,love hurt
3/27/2020	Through Alleys of My Mind	Sonnet	longing,lost love,
3/19/2020	Where Poppies Grow	Iambic Pentameter	devotion,longing,
3/6/2020	The Fickle Fate of Friendship	Rhyme	appreciation,forgiveness,
3/6/2020	Heaven's Gift	Rhyme	daughter,love,
2/3/2020	Poetry Soup Ponderings	Rhyme	community,encouraging,
10/25/2019	Some Things Never Change	Rhyme	daughter,love,
9/26/2019	A Rush of Emotions	Rhyme	inspirational love,relati
9/16/2019	Let Them Sing Their Love Songs	Rhyme	love,song,
7/11/2019	Life	Personification	life,
6/7/2019	In Response To Dylan Thomas	Villanelle	life,perspective,tribute,
4/17/2019	This Easter	Rhyme	inspirational,religious,
12/13/2018	This Thing Called Love	Iambic Pentameter	love,
11/20/2018	The Day You Gently Let Me Go	Rhyme	lost love,
10/10/2018	Dancing Desire	Free verse	desire,
9/23/2018	Blame It On the Cat	Free verse	metaphor,missing you,
8/28/2018	Undressed- a Collaboration	Rhyme	longing,passion,
8/2/2018	Be Silent	Dramatic Monologue	passion,poetry,
7/16/2018	You Keep Me Grounded	Narrative	friendship,
7/5/2018	To Albert Bandura: I Wish You Knew	Iambic Pentameter	tribute,
6/28/2018	A Gentle Slam	Dramatic Monologue	community,poetry,poets,
6/26/2018	Celestial Sphere	Blank verse	passion,
6/18/2018	They Ask Me Why I Love You	Lyric	i love you,
6/15/2018	You'Re My Poem of the Day	Dramatic Monologue	poems,poetry,poets,
6/15/2018	You Wear Away At Me	Dramatic Monologue	heartbreak,how i feel,
6/6/2018	A Wordless Sky	Rhyme	poems,poetess,poetry,
6/5/2018	I Miss You	Quatrain	daughter,i miss you,
6/1/2018	All That Remains	Rhyme	betrayal,lost love,
5/30/2018	The Markle Sparkle	Enclosed Rhyme	celebration,princess,wedd
5/29/2018	My Need For Love	Dramatic Monologue	how i feel,longing,love,r
5/28/2018	My Lover's Words	Rhyme	sensual,
5/8/2018	My Wonder of Wonders	Rhyme	love,
5/8/2018	It Is Not So Easy For Me	Dramatic Monologue	how i feel,truth,
5/5/2018	The Ghostland	Dramatic Monologue	community,poets,
5/4/2018	Hersheys Kisses In My Bed	Rhyme	sensual,
5/4/2018	I Wish That I Were	Limerick	passion,sexy,
4/28/2018	In Memory of You	Iambic Pentameter	death of a friend,
4/15/2018	The Unseen Conflict	Iambic Pentameter	conflict,
3/19/2018	I Mark the Years	Rhyme	tribute,
3/14/2018	Shoes On the Lawn	Dramatic Monologue	death,loss,
3/11/2018	Ashley G	Couplet	tribute,
3/11/2018	You Made Your Bed	Rhyme	lost love,
3/3/2018	Should I Return	Sonnet	poetry,
1/28/2018	The Veil I Wear	Dramatic Monologue	analogy,identity,
1/18/2018	Oldies Are Goldies	Free verse	nostalgia,relationship,re
1/16/2018	My Message To Trump	Iambic Pentameter	political,truth,
12/15/2017	This Time of Year- For Jean Jack	Iambic Pentameter	loss,mother,
12/11/2017	Chinks In the Armor: a Collaboration	Rhyme	passion,
12/10/2017	Persian and Proud	Rhyme	how i feel,identity,
11/23/2017	Unsayable	Couplet	mystery,
11/22/2017	Existentialist Examiner	Dramatic Monologue	humanity,identity,voice,
11/21/2017	For the Children of Yemen	Dramatic Monologue	war,
11/21/2017	Wishes Are For Fools	Quatrain	heartbroken,
11/18/2017	The Kiss of Klimt	Iambic Pentameter	tribute,
11/18/2017	Constanza	Rhyme	sensual,
11/18/2017	Stalker Shocker	Iambic Pentameter	psychological,
11/13/2017	One Stone	Sonnet	betrayal,
11/12/2017	Blushing Virgin Soul	Rhyme	relationship,
11/9/2017	The Scent of Poems Past	Sonnet	community,poetry,poets,
11/9/2017	Obsession Confession	Dramatic Monologue	sick,truth,
11/9/2017	Stream of Consciousness	Free verse	true love,
11/7/2017	I Took My Child To Church Today- Tribute	Rhyme	tribute,
11/5/2017	Do Not Delay	Iambic Pentameter	death,
11/4/2017	Love's Retiree	Rhyme	heartbroken,how i feel,tr
11/4/2017	The Warrior Princess Speaks	Epic	strength,woman,
11/4/2017	Reverse Sonnet- Love's Death and Life	Sonnet	death,life,love,
10/31/2017	My Sweet Shereen	Quatrain	daughter,feelings,for her
10/28/2017	The Reality of Us	Enclosed Rhyme	passion,
10/28/2017	Free To Write	Iambic Pentameter	freedom,poetry,,literatur
10/24/2017	Better Off Dead	Narrative	heartbreak,,literature,
10/14/2017	Love Can	Personification	love,true love,
10/12/2017	For I Have Weathered Storms	Sonnet	storm,
10/8/2017	What Happened To You	Dramatic Monologue	absence,poets,
9/30/2017	I Am More	Dramatic Monologue	poetry,
9/24/2017	A Half Century Celebration	Rhyme	birthday,husband,

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Fav Poems

PoemTitle	Form	Categories
The Wedding Ring	Quatrain	angst,marriage,night,
Feelings	Epigram	imagination,introspection
The Perfect Womens Club	Free verse	women,change,
The Mirror Is a Liar	Rhyme	dedication,metaphor,
In Your Poems	Free verse	dedication,words,
If I Were Asked	Epigram	girlfriend,love,wife,
Snowflakes	Epigram	angel,grief,love,
Super Soupers	Prose	fantasy,writing,girl,me,p
The Dream I Live	Epigram	devotion,dream,love,
Powerless	Villanelle	love,me,dream,dream,magic
Locked In a Jar	Terzanelle	love,heart,dark,dark,hear
Love Returned	Senryu	love,
Cliches Debunked	Quatrain	happiness,humorous,old,bi
Space	Rhyme	dream,space,
What Is This Space	Quatrain	blue,inspirational,
Forever Demands	Nonet	love,universe,
Paint Your Dreams On a Canvas	Free verse	art,beautiful,inspiration
Ghost Guitar	Couplet	love,
The Real You	Senryu	devotion,
Friend	Free verse	friendship,perspective,
Every Now and Then	Lyric	love,miss you,
A Placid Lake	Epigram	introspection,philosophy,
Fireflies	Haibun	love,nature,me,light,ligh
Articulation of Tears	Free verse	hope,life,sad,
Hurricane Eileen - the Storm	I do not know?	dedication,
Warrior Princess	Terzanelle	fantasy,
Of Crimson of Rose of Fire of Love	Verse	fire,love,memory,
A Thousand Dark Secrets	Dramatic Verse	anger,angst,bereavement,p
A Dream Weaved	Free verse	beautiful,celebration,for
Beyond Infinity	Free verse	introspection,universe,
I Touch Your Existence	Light Verse	love,
Five Stars	Quatrain	dedication,poems,
Lifegivers Response	Free verse	bible,celebration,drink,j
The Mighty Hand	Blank verse	grief,life,mystery,
Walk a Mile	Free verse	philosophy,
Away	Free verse	life,
Torchlight	Free verse	beautiful,love,romance,
Hidden Key	Free verse	creation,dance,dream,univ
Red Is the Colour of Passion	Free verse	love,lust,passion,
Icarus Rejoice	Free verse	art,beauty,love,
The Ghost of You, a Love Letter	Free verse	beautiful,loneliness,love
In Search	Free verse	beautiful,bible,god,
Initiative	Free verse	friendship,life,longing,l
My Insolent Heart	Free verse	addiction
Bengal	Personification	nature,
How I Miss You	Free verse	passion,romantic,
Haiku Versus Rhythm and Rhyme	Haiku	on writing and words
Half of a Heart	Concrete	health,heart,
Lament	Rhyme	destiny,sad,
Shabbat Shalom	Free verse	beautiful,devotion,love,r
Mirage	Free verse	life,lost,love,
The Aha Moment	Haiku	death,
Life	Prose Poetry	life,love,philosophy,
My Friend	Free verse	absence,angst,blue,
To Be With You -	Ballad	desire,
Long Distance Dreamer	Light Verse	beautiful,i miss you,long
The Huntress	Free verse	beautiful,desire,love,
Cross My Heart	Acrostic	love,
My Mind a Ship In Darkness	Free verse	adventure,,Lullaby,
Love Truth	Ballad	love,
Hands of Light	Pantoum	faith,god,heartbroken,hop
Paint With Fire	Acrostic	appreciation,beauty,desir
Charmileen	Acrostic	poetry,poets,
That's Good Enough For Me	Rhyme	family,marriage,proposal,
Unspoken Words	Quatrain	words,
Fool the World	Light Verse	philosophy,poetry,
Casse - Broken	Light Verse	confusion,cute love,heart
A Quivering Heart	Rhyme	love,life,
My Ultra Babe -	Ballad	beauty,desire,devotion,lo
Love Can Smile	Ballad	love,
A Mountain's Challenge	Free verse	introspection,life,
King Sun and Goddess Sea	Couplet	sea,summer,
Rebel Girl	Ballad	beautiful,beauty,best fri
Picking Participles	Alliteration	abuse,
She Whispered	Light Verse	inspirational,life,women,
Little Star	Light Verse	love,memory,
Bewitched By Beauty	Free verse	dream,romance,romantic,
On Sunday Morning	Free verse	body,desire,love,soulmate
Kiss the Wind	Light Verse	beauty,cry,desire,love,
Beauty and the Stars	Quatrain	beauty,
Clerihew Soup	Clerihew	tribute,
I Will	Ballad	desire,heart,i love you,l
Figment	Free verse	beautiful,
If I Can Fool You	Light Verse	romantic,
Lost In the World of Lonely	Lyric	lost love,
Fire Rises	Rhyme	passion,passion,
True Hearts Beating	Terzanelle	dedication,love,beautiful
Warm Solar Love	Free verse	love,moon,romance,romanti
The Hues of Yesterday	Quatrain	allegory,change,
Another Man's Clothes	Free verse	introspection,
The Book of Her Body	Ballad	love,
Broken People	Free verse	people,
Ugly	Acrostic	beautiful,image,
The Cutter	Free verse	confusion,depression,suic
Tanka By Night	Tanka	love,nature,
Cinder Girl	Rhyme
Love Burial	Epic	cute love,endurance,love,
Tenderly	Verse	romantic,
The Lives We Choose	Free verse	freedom,universe,
To Be Your Hummingbird	Free verse	bird,imagery,love,metapho

Fav Poets

Poet	Country
Richard Lamoureux	Canada	Read
Ilene Bauer	United States	Read
Demetrios Trifiatis	Greece	Read
Donna Jones	United States	Read
Harry Horsman	Australia	Read
Heather Ober	Canada	Read
Richard D Seal	United States	Read
Painted Hunter	United States	Read
Andrea Dietrich	United States	Read
Poet Tacito	United States	Read
Kash Poet	India	Read
Ken Carroll	United States	Read
Jack Ellison	Canada	Read
Arthur Vaso	Canada	Read
Liam Mcdaid	Ireland	Read
Charmaine Chircop	Malta	Read
Tim Ryerson	United States	Read
Paul Callus	Malta	Read
Mel Merrill	United States	Read
Justin Bordner	United States	Read
Tim Smith	United States	Read
Maurice Yvonne	Canada	Read
David Meade	United States	Read
Kik Lil	Ireland	Read
Emile Pinet	Canada	Read
Kp Nunez	Philippines	Read
Laura Breidenthal	United States	Read
Lin Lane	United States	Read
Frederic Parker	United States	Read
Casarah Nance	United States	Read
Suzanne Delaney	United States	Read
Jan Allison	Isle Of Man	Read