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Born in Skipton raised in the village of addingham in wharfedale, moved to New Zealand for 36 years, now a resident of Perth Western Australia, i have 2 sons 3 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren..Sons were born in the uk, 2 grandchildren in New Zealand, 1 grandchild and 4 great grandchildren are true blue aussies.

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FEAR OF PLAGIARISM

Blog Posted:11/8/2022 9:03:00 PM

Hiya, all, Soup was down this morning here in Australia, so instead started without thought to doodle bit and pieces of words ending up writing little syllable rhymes. First turning my tiny ones in to Brian Strand's Footles then on to 3/3 4/4 and 5/5 syllable lines, which i'm about to post here, but realized especially with the footles that someone else may have written exactly the same before, have been to a plagiarism site, but it didn't make much sense, has anyone else wondered the same, have left a note at the foot of my poem to give credit to anyone i may have copied.. Harry

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Tania
Kitchin

Date: 11/11/2022 5:27:00 AM

Harry, I am sure we have all used a few similar phrases unintentionally. To me plagiarism is intentional and often copied word for word. There was a poet here on PS a few years ago who did that. He copied concrete poems from the internet and posted them in contests. He was reported and removed. For myself, I take pride in knowing everything I post is my work.

Constance La France
Date: 11/14/2022 5:23:00 AM

I remember this guy, not sure of his name, he even copied some of my shape poems and won contests using them. He was finally banned from soup.

Tom Cunningham
Date: 11/11/2022 11:53:00 AM

Yes I remember him Tania, seemed like a decent man but he got found out. Cant understand why people do that, they must get a kick out of it. Tom

Tania Kitchin
Date: 11/11/2022 11:26:00 AM

I think so, his first name was Greg.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 11/11/2022 6:43:00 AM

Tania, if it's the same person I remember, this happened long ago, and still he came back and tried it again. Unbelievable!

Suzanne
Delaney

Date: 11/10/2022 2:49:00 PM

It has been said, “ There is nothing new under the sun.” Harry I imagine that applies to writing. ”The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun” King James Bible. SuZ

Eve
Roper

Date: 11/9/2022 6:38:00 PM

I have too, I just write and let it go like a coin toss

Unseeking
Seeker

Date: 11/9/2022 5:55:00 PM

A true life incident comes to mind ~ a musician composed a lyric but didn’t publish it or bring it into public domain, for personal reasons. A few years later, he was astonished to find that some other musician had composed exactly the same song! He asked a medium how it could be so … the answer was simple ~ we’re all connected to universal consciousness and so vibrations set up can be ‘tuned into’ by those who seek likewise or resonate. I’ve often remarked ‘wherefrom came the exalted thought, that inspirations with it brought?’

L Milton
Hankins

Date: 11/9/2022 12:36:00 PM

Harry, for years I read little contemporary poetry for fear of some phrase sticking in my brain and winding up in one of my own poems. Then, I realized that plagiarism is deliberate and intentional. Of course, I would never appropriate another's words on purpose with the intent to deceive or steal, so now I just write and don't worry about it.

Brian
Strand

Date: 11/9/2022 9:05:00 AM

Harry, my footle form ( originally conceived) as a witty,pertinent,topical etc 'as is ' moment (as ethereal as candfyfloss) The sequenced hybrid 'footles' has( like topsy )grown here at PS into a ' different animal ' as a poetic couplet form it seems

David
Kavanagh

Date: 11/9/2022 8:39:00 AM

Serendipity Harry, if not you then someone else!

Unseeking
Seeker

Date: 11/9/2022 7:52:00 AM

Can happen inadvertently. Just today someone pointed out that maybe a line or two of my poem or perhaps an idea was similar to a book or a movie … could be, who knows, coincidences can happen. Oscar Wilde had once observed ‘I was born too late to be original’ or words to that effect

Tom
Cunningham

Date: 11/9/2022 7:41:00 AM

The more we read the more we absorb and when composing may be looking for a sentence that seems to come out of nowhere not realising it may have been a sentence in someone else's work that we may have read in the past. It would never be an intentional act though. Tom

Constance
La France

Date: 11/9/2022 6:54:00 AM

Harry, there are only so many ways to write something especially in a form like footles, rest easy, no one here would ever accuse you of plagiarism

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 11/9/2022 6:33:00 AM

Footles are so small. it is impossible that some would not have been repeated, though unintentionally. Actually I find the title to a footle to be where the joke lies . If the title AND the footle are the same, that would make me wonder about plagiarism. Don't worry, Harry. All poets are bound to use same imagery over and over again in one way or another in their poetry and we can't even know it unless we read every single poem here!!

Jeff
Kyser

Date: 11/9/2022 3:17:00 AM

No expert here - sometimes I read a poem here, and it makes me think of a different angle on the same topic, and I try to provide a "hat tip" to the original author. On at least one occasion I can remember, I wanted to use a very specific phrase in a poem, and sent an e-mail asking if that would be ok. I do figure if you put enough of us monkeys in front of keyboards, we're bound to pen the same phrases from time to time, but I certainly don't give much consideration to the idea that someone is "stealing" my words. Thanks for a good reminder to us all Harry, to enjoy, to encourage, but not to steal!

Jeff Kyser
Date: 11/9/2022 4:37:00 AM

there'd be a lot of monkey poo, though

John Lawless
Date: 11/9/2022 4:34:00 AM

someone once theorized that "if you put an unlimited number of monkeys in front of an unlimited number of keyboards they would eventually write all of the great works of literature.."

Suzette
Richards

Date: 11/9/2022 12:16:00 AM

Hi Harry! I doubt it very much that you have intentionally plagiarized other poets' work (here on PS or elsewhere). Sometimes a word or phrase just "sticks in one's mind" (like an old forgotten song), and you feel compelled to include it in your scribbling (in a Footle, etc). If you are still in doubt about what constitutes plagiarism (other than the commonly held believes), you are kindly invited to read my article her on PS: "Plagiarism versus Being Inspired By".

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2/24/2023	Cloudburst	Tanka	sensual,
2/22/2023	Centre of the Storm	Tanka	nature,
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1/25/2023	Season's End	Other	seasons,
1/25/2023	Musk	Senryu	deep,
1/24/2023	On Earth	Limerick	angst,
1/24/2023	Deb Hankins	Free verse	death,lost love,
1/20/2023	Metamorphois	Free verse	nature,
1/6/2023	A Date With Milton	Free verse	death of a friend,
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11/25/2022	The Back Bone of the Dales	Haibun	tribute,
11/14/2022	Way Down Under	Quatrain	nature,
11/11/2022	Naked Exposure	Nonet	nature,
11/8/2022	Counting Syllables	Footle	fun,
11/7/2022	The Only Star For Me	Tanka	love,
11/5/2022	Raining Within	Tanka	sad love,
11/4/2022	Acoustics	Haiku	nature,
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10/28/2022	Throw No Stones	Tanka	hate,
10/25/2022	Connie	Senryu	thanks,
10/21/2022	I Recall One Summer	Dizain	nature,remember,
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9/20/2022	30th September	Sijo	birth,birthday,
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9/3/2022	Ember	Free verse	senses,
9/1/2022	Harold Shipman	Free verse	abuse,death,
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8/18/2022	Hint of Change	Quatern	nature,
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8/14/2022	Hunter	Haiku	nature,
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8/4/2022	From My Prison Cell	Haibun	fate,hope,
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7/23/2022	Someone To Care	Haibun	angst,
7/16/2022	Breath	Senryu	friend,life,
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6/11/2022	Leaf	Verse	death,life,
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PoemTitle	Form	Categories
'uniquely You'	Free verse	introspection,life,
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Virgin America	Free verse	adventure,allegory,animal
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How Do I Say Good-Bye?	I do not know?	death,father,loss,sad,hou
Gold Star	Narrative	childhood,war,war,star,bl
The War's Over!	Free verse	allegory,introspection,li
The Warp and the Weft	Couplet	inspirational,
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Simple Words For Simple People	Free verse	love,on writing and words
My Poems Are Children To Me	Free verse	poems,
Unconfined	Quintain (English)	lost love,
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Thirtieth High School Reunion	Rhyme	funny,school,me,me,
The Puppet Master	Dramatic Monologue	introspection,
Sentinel of Strength	Rhyme	dedication,mother,women,
Woman's Work	Sonnet	allegory,caregiving,dedic
Wisdom	I do not know?	life,
Broken Eyes	Rhyme	life,sad
Leadership	Rhyme	on work and workingpeople
In the Sun's Last Glow	Quintain (English)	heart,lost love,may,red,
Itsy, Bitsy, Teenie, Weenie Brain	Lyric	funny,political
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Henry the Eighth	Narrative	historyme,age,age,body,me
A Great Unease	Rondeau	life,me,
Dark Angel	Sonnet	angst,
Skin Deep	Rhyme	introspectionmen,
The Devil In a Bottle	Verse	life,happy,dad,work,praye
White Lace	Sonnet	life,seasons
Tapestry	Acrostic	life,mum,
No Greater Hero	Free verse	dedication,father,inspira
Harridan In a Housecoat	Quatern	people,children,father,da
Devils Deadly Dime	Dramatic Monologue	abuse,day,irony,judgement
Missing Mom	Rhyme	daughter,loss,love,mother
Morning In the Conway House	Couplet	life,me,morning,
Love Scattered	Free verse	love,sadlove,me,
The Green Eyed Lad	Quatrain	friendship,fun,green,long
Summer Restored	Haiku	nature
Contract	Ballad	adventure,
Time Unwinding	Free verse	imagination,inspirational
5 W's	Quintain (English)	friendship,
Wind Mutters Softly	Haiku	nature
What Easter Means To Me	Rhyme	faith,holidayheart,easter
An Eagle's Prayer	Rhyme	faith,inspirational,visio
How a Blue Rose Came To Be	Rhyme	death,imagination,love,ro
911 Aftermath Misguided Haters	Verse	fear,on work and working,
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Poet	Free verse	art,tribute,
I Pine	Free verse	nature,
Yesterdays People	Free verse	life,peopleautumn,
Pain	Ballad	adventure,
Poets	Quatrain	confusion,funny,art,art,p
A Question of Faith	Etheree	faith,
Natural Born Dreamers	Dramatic Verse	baby,death,loss,me,sad,ti
Snowdrops	Rhyme	nature,winter,winter,
Taliban	Acrostic	angst,people,places,war,
Greed and Deceit	Free verse	angst,family,
Occupy My Home	Dramatic Verse	introspection,
Dementia	Rhyme	life,sympathy,life,life,
Peer Pressure of the Worst	Couplet	fear,life,loss,war,
Once Upon a Car Ride	Free verse	confusion,depression,fear
Modern Life	Rhyme	funny,life,car,me,work,wa
Poetry	Tanka	on writing and words,
Bethlehem's Star	Free verse	faith,holiday,
Morning Has Broken - 1	Quatrain	day,fantasy,fear,me,plane
Morning Has Broken - 2	Quatrain	fantasy,
Autumn Reverie	Rhyme	nostalgia,autumn,flying,
A New Year	Rhyme	holiday,peace,peace,
And Now For Something Completely Different	Free verse	mystery,funeral,old,funer
Wishes and Dreams	Couplet	day,deep,dream,health,lif
Ruby Lips	Light Verse	love,passion,romance,love
Save the Last Dance For Me	Couplet	love,romantic,dance,night
As Lovers Go	Personification	nature,summer,sun,
Do You Remember	Sonnet	daffodils,friendship,
Just Too Much	Rhyme	introspection,
Down For the Count	Rhyme	health,
Gift Exchange To Brian From Mandy	Couplet	friendship,poets,
Lest We Forget	Light Verse	goodbye,
A Road Still Driven	Quatrain	inspirational,love,
Jungle War	Quatrain	history,war,home,home,
Taken	Rhyme	fear,grief,
Our Christmas Eve Dinner	Couplet	dad,humorous,mom,prayer,
Guns	Couplet	death,life,nice,nice,
The Flame	Rhyme	life,light,
Wishful	Dramatic Monologue	inspirational,journey,lif
Woodland Path	Couplet	friendship,inspirational,
Eleven Words	Free verse	lifeold,tree,old,tree,
The Dart Chalker	Rhyme	humorous,sports,
Broadway Airs	Free verse	introspection,life,city,
No Tickee, No Washee	Quatrain	journey,life,old,old,
One Second Delay	Free verse	introspection,me,me,
He Touched Me	Free verse	miracle,
The Strange Marriage of Love and Pain	Personification	love,marriage,pain,
Yesterday	Acrostic	boyfriend,
Color Me Purple	Rhyme	emotions,
We Don'T Need No Stinking Contests - Wrong	Couplet	irony,satire,words,
Sweep In Like a Summer Breeze	Lyric	husband,lost love,
Waves of Roosters' Songs	Rhyme	introspection,
Dangerous Green	Rhyme	humor,
Cancer - Remembering What You Want To Forget	Free verse	cancer,remember,

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Phil Boy	United States	Read
Constance La France	Canada	Read
Sherifat Aduku	Nigeria	Read
Harry Horsman	Australia	Read
Mandy Tams The Golden Girl	United Kingdom	Read