Best Referential Poems


Premium Member Contortionists Test

I enjoyed wrapping my mind around his words
Stretching my thinking
At times coming unglued
Reaching towards oblivion
While keeping my feet in multiple worlds
Standing on sinking ground  
While leaning on granites precious solidity

The substance of imaginations inconsistencies
Tugging on the heart strings of a well played heart
Wondering along the pathway of dreams long held at arms length
Hoping to understand
Taking that backward look while moving forward and upward 

Words are his gift
Dropped like psychedelic bombs 
Ripping at the fabric of convention
Pain wrapped in sheepskin 
Joy pushed through pencils point
Leaving me in awe
Dancing and stretching along
Bouncing against his liquid walls
Till I come out the other side
Understanding
Landing 
Blessed
More than I was before
Yet part of myself
Stays behind
Trying to catch my breath


Dedicated to Drake

Submitted to Debbie's Guzzi's Referential Contest
"Closer" By Chris Aechtner reminded me of Drakes Work
and Drakes unusual word combinations thus inspiring 
the above piece.

A Philosophical Predicament

Philosophers, down the ages,  
Have strenuously tried
To figure out language:
Their numerous narratives polarize 
Into two Grand narratives, a binary:
Language is referential / differential.
This binary has yielded numerous derivatives.

On the referential side, for instance, 
There’s the view that language is an instrument, 
As advanced notably by Aristotle, Bhamaha and Dandin.

On the differential side, we have 
Saussure’s notion: 
Language is a system of differences 
(without any positive terms).
Derrida, for his part, widened it: 
Language is infinitely differential, 
As suggested by his coinage differance,
which implies: language is 
slippery, radically unstable,
which, in turn, gave rise to 
mind-boggling derivatives
in this postmodern world!

Some of them are: Derrida’s (own) freeplay 
of the (autonomous) sign, 
Bloom’s (willful) misreading, 
And Lyotard’s (incommensurable) language games 
(which we all play in this postmodern space willy-nilly)
 
All these differences have led
Often to acrimonious disputes,
Couched, of late, in a language 
that abounds in ambiguity 
and neatly underpinned by illogic! 


The predicament of these philosophers (old or new) is:
 What they and we all observe 
is not language-in-itself,
but language as seen by us— 
which is similar to what Heisenberg said about nature!

These disputes remind us 
of the dispute among the six characters, 
in the age-old parable,
which reportedly originated in the Indian Rigveda. 
(but now found in several belief systems). 


 It’s the parable of the six men
(as narrated by John Godfrey Saxe)
Wherein the characters tried
To figure out an elephant, 
which, unfortunately, none of them 
Had the faculty to see:
So, one called it soft and mushy; 
for another it was like a snake;
for the third, it was fan-like,
And so on.

Thus, they “disputed loud and long,
Though each was partly in the right 
…and all were [rightly] in the wrong!"

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© Ram R. V.  Create an image from this poem.

Grey Bird

On that cloudy weekend in June 
I hear a soft and graceful tune 
from the grey bird on the tree 
branch 
Singing sweet lullabies felt 
blessed in the moment 
My body tingles of joy at sight 
Gazing out through 
my open door,
Letting thoughts fly free
Releasing love out into the horizon 
Heart filled with emotion came 
over me 
Grey bird stood playing its tune 
for awhile and on the wings of 
letting go
Then as the rain fell from the 
sky the grey bird flew away 
gracefully 
I blew a kiss to the clouds and 
utterd these simple words of I 
Love You father ( who's now in 
heaven ) and yet I hope to hear 
that grey bird sing again once 
more for me 
Farewell, love your son

Poem contest for Debbie -referential


Is There a God

If God is something that you think, 
It is only a process that you drink;
Wittgenstein's answer of yes and no,
Does only referential justification show.

Societal concepts are never jokes,
But at other people make pokes;
They're straight with direct meaning,
So have an implied, absolute feeling.

David Lehman said Wittgenstein, 
Was quoted by dons as sane,
And I just think he restated that,
Language is within society, fact.

God is not physical in any way,
'Cos ontology can't have it's say;
It can't describe the dais God,
Using predicate logic most odd.

But all things are describable,
And sets with no God table,
So we can easily conclude,
That he is just us being rude.



Reference: Wittgensteins Ladder by David Lehman

Life's Pattern - Referential Contest

Life is like a pure glass goblet
Molded from the beginning
Etchings are added like memories
Each one carefully placed

Home is represented by a firm line
Showing the beginning of life
Followed by the ups an downs of growing up
Here the pattern begins

Love and marriage follows next
Children added to life's  total
The hearts and tiny flowers
Are etched upon the glass

Old age quickly follows
The etcher with expertise
Entwines the flowing line
So that the picture is all as one

Life's pattern is etched for eternity
Unless carelessness causes 
the glass  to be shattered, gone for evermore.



Inspired by : Figure Fusion written by Robb Kopp

Penned 30 June 2013

Psychobabble

Pattern creator weaving through semantic gridlock. Synaptic blockage has me dining on feedback. Consuming concepts of Id's bleeding out a dissociative psychocollage. 
No Map No-Thing.
Images overlapping gaps of referential perspective all lapping up my awareness [{that is overclocked  thinking thoughts at lightning speed}]
I have Become. 
The Lone Madman stripping down the day and rearranging pieces my own way
DreamingDriftingDrowning in a sea of suspended belief.  Jumping Juxtaposition! How to navigate such a clash of colloidal moment places?
Negation of orientation is a hidden freedom. In the Disconnect expect a mighty Vertigo; it briefly will swallow YOU leaving only the leafy sensation that is the essence of hollow. Immersion is complete. no more Self memory. No-Thing is concrete. Just a simple drop in the Bucket. This is We. This is dissolution. Attaching Desire and Control on Potentialities is disillusion.


Premium Member A Robin's Eggshell Color

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Never looking up to see the sky
                                       A "Robin's eggshell" color
Nor noticing or appreciating
                 The sun's golden hue
                                As it rose each day

Only seeing, breathing, feeling work~
                                                      Labor intensive work~
                                                                                   Capturing each thought 
Holding bondage each breath
                                        As each long hot day passed
Turning into years of misery

Early in the morning about the breaking of dawn
                                                  
                                                     "Backed by a choir of ten thousand crickets"
Their voices mixed in with the music "reached up to touch heaven with a song"

Their heads bowed looking at the cotton crop 
                                                       That held them prisoners for a lifetime
Wondering if, if there was any hope of redemption 

                               Since they were tied to the land in bondage to scrape out a livin'

What is the rest of the story for it is unfinished 'til this day


"Closer" by Chris Aechtner
"Robin's Eggshell"
"Cotton Pickin' Paradise" by Tim Ryerson
"Backed by a choir of ten thousand crickets"
"Reaching up to touch heaven with a song"
Sponor: Debbie Guzzi
Contest: Referential

I based it somewhat on my parents telling about how they worked as children in the cotton fields, corn patches, gardens, etc. Then they left the farm and went to the cotton mills and some of the descendence from these two families rose above the poverty of both places..There was one doctor, one Lt. Colonel in the Coast Guard, and many more occupations scattered thorough out families that came from that poverty situation..

Points of View

POINTS OF  VIEW

Took kids for fresh air to zoo and laughed  -  are we or they behind bars?
Monkeys studying a parade of human specimens for their amusement:
Point of view was a novelty for kids  -
Their cage locks were  welded tight.
               Stone walls and iron bars do a prison make 
If our minds are  the rigid stone and bars.
Can monkeys fly? Do fish walk? 
Perhaps,  I said.   The kids laughed and then  took photos
Everyone  laughed and denied their own photo  - That’s not me!  
Of course it’s not. A two-dimension static image of a three-dimension dynamic person.
The camera makes monkeys out of us.    
               Cameras always lie...as a quoted scripture exerpt mayseem toprove anything.
You can’t expect to understand  a stream from a single stone pebble; 
You’ve got to see  the whole flow and ebb for a truer picture.
Let go of expectations.  Expect nothing.  But always hope for everything.
We stopped at the ice-cream vendor.
An  optimistic realist expects nothing and is never disappointed -
                Expect nothing.     Not even the unexpected.
Your mind full of stones  will always bar progress of spirit.
Be empty of preconceived notions. New  viewpoints  are essential.  
With no fresh air, no winged ideas, no wind of change, comes
Mildewed destruction of your  spirit’s  health. Poison to your system. 
Be the deep-flowing  fresh stream,  washing limitless pebbles :
And if you get out of your depth, kids,  then 
                Don’t  fail to  come crying to me.

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Written 1  July  2013   for Debbie Guzzi’s contest  REFERENTIAL

Exerpts used are from   CLOSER     by  Chris Aechtner

“caged snapshots of mildewed expectations,....on wings of letting go..”

Afghanistan

Afghanistan…the land of occupation…?
From Britain…to Russia…to America…no love…a dove…?
Some military actions…referential contractions…
Moral destruction…resistance of fractions…
Country so poor…exposure to more…
Land mines…air strikes…the likes… 
Hey man…what is the plan..?
Years of being a stronghold…as we are told…
From the Taliban to Al-Qaeda…the resistance seems wider…
The country…so hungry…
For survival…see the arrival…
Of foreign forces…any resources…?
For food…shelter…education…clothing…transports…?
The report…of the UN…the world food program…UNICEF…
Corruption…drugs…thugs…any hugs...?
The children…the pawns…in the storms…
The bombings…so damning…the innocents…the guilty…
The wounded…the dead…the counts…still mounts…
The cries…the lies…the truth…the root…
The news…the views…the critics…the rhetoric’s…
The politics of change…the range…
Of assessment…of the situation…is it a nation…in depletion…?
The costs…for the arms…it alarms…
 UNSUPPORTED CODE

Premium Member Timely Universes

The Universe is the only self-referential reality
in the phenomenal world.
It is the only text
without context.
Thomas Berry

And yet
could no the same
be said of time
as text
without spatial context?

And could this universality of time as text
also become our co-gravitating unity
through co-arising diversity
of spaciating polypathic context?

Octavia Butler
defined God
as Change.

Time changes
or is eternally timeless;
a dead vacuous universal text
swelling and contracting
changes within timeless time
through eternally imaginable context.

If this Universe is God's text
without further context,
then this co-emerging race through time's distinctions
prefacing Earth's voiceless extinctions
proves time's full infinite eternity
contextualizes nothing more or less complete
than timeless here
as now,

Remembering time's near completion
without date
or finite ego-measurement;
lacking too-reductive calculations,
deductive text within-
without inductive sacred context
for God's Left and Right
YangForm through YinFunction

Universe as Sacred Change
Way
Truth
Trust
Life
Love
Grace
EcoPolitical NonDual DiPolar Karma
Restorative Yang EcoJustice with YinYin-WinWin Peace.

Conflicting Emotions 'Freepalestine'

Three travelers are
having breakfast at
the halfway home
cafe.  
"Ever since," Says
the captain,"I take
my coffee black.You
know how it is,when
you go black you
don't go back!"  
The soldier
said,"Make it
white,extra
cream!"He winks at
his comrade and
proclaim,"When you
go white,nothing
else seem right."  
Table no.3 at the
corner call
out,"Refill
please.Straight
Mocha!" He lifts up
the mug,beckons the
fellas and say."When
you go brown,you get
the crown!"  
   
Haha!Yes i know.But
that does not
necessarily make
them racial!It could
be preference or
even referential!  
   
As a Christian,i
pray for Israel.It
is not really an
obligation,its a
chemistry.Like most
people,i too
certainly is in love
with Israel!Not to
mention the fact
that,it is an added
blessing on those
who bless Israel.
However,it is also
written,"He who has
eyes,let him see and
he who has ears,let
him hear." I have
both,its the reason
why am able to
discern right from
wrong.So yes,am all
united for a free
Palestine!
   
Does that make me so
wrong in being
right?Or so right in
being wrong?

Strangled By a Godel

(Based on the seemingly-paradoxical logic behind Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem, in which the self-referential Gödel statement can only be seen to be true from outside the system.)

I cannot believe that this statement is true.
Don’t try to convince me; you’d turn my face blue.
I’m choked by its verdict whatever I do.
The freedom to see it belongs to just you.
© Ed Morris  Create an image from this poem.

iNarcissus

The youth, wearing only boxer shorts,
is gazing with a sense of awe
at the small square object in his hand.
A smartphone!
It has a screen; it also has a camera.
Its lens has captured a mirror
with the boy within its frame,
gazing upon, contemplating,
perhaps admiring, even,
the screen of a phone that now is holding
an image of himself in the frame of the mirror
holding the object that has captured it
within the frame of the screen.

We see this image as
we wander social media,
where the picture of the boy
in the mirror in the camera,
which he gazes down upon
with awe, as if it were
an alien artefact,
is there for us to ponder.

The image has stolen his attention;
it has captured and confined him,
fascinated and entranced him.
He has fallen into a shimmering pool,
self-referential, gazing at itself.
It is another land.

Premium Member Let It Go

Dinner was over an hour ago
Counters wiped clean, dishes are washed and dried
I hold my glass up to the light like a color slide,
   and see the world, warped, and blurred through the half glass of rosy wine

It makes everything seem clearer, somehow, and sobers my mind

From our long silhouettes, we sit on the lawn, and gaze to the mountains,
                    talking quietly, and sipping the pink charodonnay

Dark of the shade seems to drink up the light of day

Summer carols being sung by two mourning doves, 
                    are accompanied by a choir of crickets in the dewy grass
                    calling for reverence in honor of a dying sun
  
Soft voices are lifted in still air
The pink light seems to paralyze time.

We have found kindness here, 
                     and somehow the grueling trials of the year
                     seem smaller than they did yesterday

Now the day turns toward the darkness
                     and we have rid our taste of the dry and bitter dust
                     of everything that has been said and done

The north wind shakes the trees
                      and the last leaf that clung so fast and tight
                      releases its grip, and disappears into the dusk

We shall never need to see where it lands 
                      for we  are  forbidden strangers to the dark
Let us remain friends with the light

Let us unclench our old resistance

And after we have finished the last drop of wine
                      we will turn, and go inside
                      and thank our stars
                      for the pungent taste
                      that yet lingers
                      on our tongues

                      in case
                      we might
                      need
                      proof 
                      that some years will harvest a bitter taste....

                      and  
                      some
                      years
                      will
                      harvest
                      a
                      crop
                      blessed
                      by
                      the
                      sun
                      

                      



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For Deb's Contest: "Referential" 
reference: Chris Aechtner's Poem:  unclench fists

Premium Member This Sordid Villanelle

It seems I can’t escape this plot, this telling of the tell;
a mandatory element is a first-person write.
Just don’t make me the villain of this sordid villanelle.

I much prefer to narrate from deep down within my shell;
I like to lurk in shadows and remain tucked out of sight.
Alas, I can’t escape this plot, this telling of the tell.

It’s not that I’ve got much to hide; that’s one I can dispel.
But making much about oneself: a war I’ve had to fight.
Just don’t make me the villain of this sordid villanelle.

I’d rather paint a masterpiece or cast a magic spell
With heroes bold and brave and strong, with maidens fair and slight.
Alas, I can’t escape this plot, this telling of the tell.

Or tales about redemption from the fiery pit of hell
with pastures green to rest one’s head on clear and starry nights…
Just don’t make me the villain of this sordid villanelle.

And so, dear reader, though I strain to bring you in as well,
I hope you can forgive a man’s self-referential plight.
Alas, I can’t escape this plot, this telling of the tell;
just don’t make me the villain of this sordid villanelle.

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for the First Person Villanelle Poetry Contest
sponsored by L Milton Hankins
written on 08/26/2022
© Jeff Kyser  Create an image from this poem.

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