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Deborah Guzzi writes full time. Her third book, The Hurricane is available through Prolific Press. https://prolificpress.com/bookstore/prolific-books-c-12/the-hurricane-by-deborah-guzzi-p-151.html Her poetry appears in Allegro, Artificium, Shooter, & The Foxglove Journal in the UK, Subterranean Blue, Existere, The Ekphrastic Review, Scarlet Leaf Review & Subterranean Blue Poetry, Canada - Tincture, Australia - mgv2>publishing, France Cha: Asian Review, China - Vine Leaves Literary Journal, Australia - The Scarlet Leaf Review - Greece, Ribbons, pioneertown, Sounding Review, Bacopa Literary Review, The Aurorean, Liquid Imagination, The Tishman Review, Page & Spine & others in the USA. 


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Blog Posted:5/17/2014 12:40:00 PM

Please read the following verse and


A. tell me what they are

B. tell me why you think they are [x]

C. tell me if you felt they were good [1 - 7]

D. tell me what to say to the person who wrote these to help them


 


After Birth Death #1

Blushing trees shiver
raging against their demise
as after births Falls.

colored leaves
move with the breeze:
grandmother's scarf



Aloft #2

Wailing Winter's wind
raged air lofting sparrow flocks
like angry arrows.

the arrow
misses the target:
lofted sparrow

strong winter wind
lofts the flock of sparrows:
full birdfeeder

Beginnings Without End #3,4,5

Brazen summer leaves
falling on autumnal snow
sliding to Winter.

dry brown leaves
fall upon an early snow:
frozen collards

Rising to Spring sun
blooming to ripest glow
looming to amber

Albino wet wind
welcomes crocus in
blazing sun begins.

sleet hits
the south side of the shed:
green spears the ground

  



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Date: 5/19/2014 10:47:00 PM
Not only are titles a focal point, and we only want the meat of the poem to be the object of concentration, but they also are a way of extending the number of syllables allowed in a haiku. It is sort of like a cheat sheet. It is fine to title a haiku string (group of similar haiku). Capitalization is not used basically because there are no sentences in haiku, only long and short phrases. The same reasoning applies to why no periods afterward at the ends of the phrases. The cut marker is there to cause one to pause, reflect the previous thought, and move on to the displacement, or expansion of that thought, by the next phrase.
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Charles Henderson
Date: 5/19/2014 10:54:00 PM
The only reason haiku are titled on the soup is because the nature of saving our poems demands a title. So, what I do is copy the first line as the title. That way I gain no use of added syllables.
Date: 5/19/2014 7:38:00 PM
what shall we tell this poet about why a title is not used & why capitalization is not used? Suz has told them why no adjectives & adverbs & personification or metaphor
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Date: 5/19/2014 7:04:00 AM
Craig I agree with you regarding the sparrow verse. Yet we can keep it & make a haiku of it. You want the implied metaphor of the likeness between the flight of arrows and the flock of birds SO I would ask you to start your haiku [have the 2 joined lines be about the flight of arrows try again please] let's see if we can get it to do what you want get the reader to SEE the similarity without telling them.
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Date: 5/18/2014 12:27:00 PM
The first one breaks after line one. I don't agree with the two capitalizations. (meaningless!!) Would be much more powerful to break after line 2, and leave out the word "as". The second one breaks after line 2 and does contain two parts. The third breaks after line 2 and does have two parts. Is also good haiku. The capitals and periods are clouding the issue and not letting the mind flow to haiku style. If left out, the poems could be understood better. Graceguts does a good job of featuring fine haiku and these seem to be no exception. but I would have had exception because of the capitals and periods.
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Charles Henderson
Date: 5/19/2014 1:25:00 AM
Titles are used as a focal point and haiku concentrates on words and phrases which demand all the readers attention. That, I am told is why poetic devices sometimes distract from the main focal of a haiku. A title preconceives expectation which may or may not be present. The haiku should stand on it's own merit by only its presentation.
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 3:04:00 PM
what about the titles Chas
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 2:59:00 PM
the poet said the topic was the trees birth and death Chas - the proposed rewrite is above
Date: 5/18/2014 6:52:00 AM
Interesting Suz I have just written a triptych [ a verse in 3 columns] but I would not thing of a haiku that way I must go read it!
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Date: 5/18/2014 3:19:00 AM
#1 stands out Debbie,full of enigma a good imagist verse.I would delete the word 'as' & 's' in 'births' and make 'Falls' lower case in the the last line.Neverless it is a great imagist example, which is why it pleases me most I guess.Rgds Brian
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 3:03:00 PM
Blushing trees shiver, raging against their demise after birth falls. hmmm pretty vivid!
Date: 5/18/2014 2:40:00 AM
I concur with some of the comments but disagree with the content, they are trying to be haiku but lacking thought on capitals and image i.e. 5, in UK crocus are spring flowers so no blazing sun, 4, spring sun does not bring ripest glow and it has rhyme, 3, makes no sense 2, I like, 1, good image of winter but none of them have a 'stand alone' in them...
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 6:41:00 AM
yes the author thought it looked pretty to capitalize and yes I agree David they would be 'ok so what?' haiku no surprises here
Date: 5/17/2014 11:26:00 PM
the first two are great ideas. The people who wrote them need to just make them into short free verse poems and not try to do limiting haiku with them.
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 6:39:00 AM
[nod] I too believe them to be more free verse than haiku
Date: 5/17/2014 11:25:00 PM
Thinking about Poem 5 , it just needs to lose the word "in" and replace with "as" But to make it more like a haiku, I'd say: wet wind/ welcomes crocus/ sun begins to blaze. Haiku is not supposed to make assumptions , like saying wind welcomes anything, but I see some modern haiku poets writing this way and I rather like it.
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 6:38:00 AM
ahhhh that's good input
Date: 5/17/2014 11:21:00 PM
To be frank, I find only one that is like a haiku for me , but it's the unconventional type haiku, which I don't mind, because I enjoy that kind. It uses a descriptive word "brazen" (which is ok in my book) and personification, sliding to Winter. I really like what the poet is "saying" with that poem. Maybe it is not "true" haiku, but whatever it is, I love it. Last two are not bad, but they are not haiku for me. they are nice descriptions of nature. I would call them short poems. I don't know why any of them are using capital letters if they are trying to be haiku. But if they are short poems, then it's ok to do that way.
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Debbie Guzzi
Date: 5/18/2014 6:37:00 AM
yes Andie the poets thought they were writing haiku :)
Date: 5/17/2014 10:06:00 PM
Hey Jimbo but you didn't answer the questions?
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Date: 5/17/2014 4:07:00 PM
Thanks Craig what if #1 had been laid out in 1 line [Blushing trees shiver raging against their demise as after births Falls.] hmmm or [Blushing trees shiver raging against their death as after birth falls.] then what would you think it was? Are poet devices being used? if so to show us what?
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