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AI Generated Poem Detection

Blog Posted:10/2/2024 9:28:00 AM

It is becoming more challenging to detect AI-generated content these days. We have tested many tools, and most of them are completely unreliable. Some tools have identified AI in poems that are 100% original.

However, if you are operating a contest and want to use a "somewhat" reliable AI detection tool, please use this.

https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector

As we research this topic, we will add more detectors to this list.

DO NOT USE https://gptzero.me/. It is unreliable.

Again, please understand that these tools are not 100% reliable—heck, they're not even 50% reliable. AI is a new technology, and the results are a moving target.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT ACCUSE members of using AI on PoetrySoup. Report the poem using the report option on the poem's page. Publicly accusing a person of using AI will get your account banned.

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Karen
Croft

Date: 10/9/2024 7:32:00 AM

Hello soup administration, I wanted to report a scam that happened to me yesterday. Anita,Anita sent me a message wanting me to email them so I did, but it turned out to be a scam wanting me to with draw money from Canada for them!? Just wanted to let you guys know and I did block her! Thank you!

Suzette
Richards

Date: 10/8/2024 7:28:00 AM

Thank you Team PoetrySoup for including 'AI generated' under the CATEGORY section of the poem submission form.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/8/2024 7:42:00 PM

Is it your intention to leave the note at the end of the poetry submission form regarding "no AI"? It night well still served as a deterrent as this is a site for poets and not a dump for AI-generated material. Thank you for bearing with us as we find our way among the binary codes and human voices.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/8/2024 7:26:00 PM

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/8/2024 2:14:00 PM

We finally got around to updating all of our pages concerning AI...at least, we think we have.

Jan
Allison

Date: 10/7/2024 10:50:00 AM

Hi Soup Admin, you will notice I ignored all the comments on my question below. This type of intrusion has gone on far too long and I wish you would have a system where a poet you have blocked cannot piggy back on a comment you make elsewhere on the site. Please will you respond to my question below regarding the hint that you used AI in your shattered sighs book.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/8/2024 2:12:00 PM

Answered below.

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 12:50:00 PM

Hi Jan, I've asked this question before and at that point TPS said it would be a significant rewrite of code that made it impossible at that point. It is a shame considering how prevalent it is. Sorry I did think you'd be the only one getting notifications earlier. Apologies for the ping ping ping. Good luck with the book x

Arlo
Parker

Date: 10/6/2024 4:54:00 PM

How many poems will be accepted for the upcoming Anthology? Will they be annotated as such? :o//

Jan
Allison

Date: 10/5/2024 4:10:00 PM

This is the final line from your book blurb for "Shattered sigh's "By gaining a deeper understanding of mental illness through AI-generated poetry, we can foster a more compassionate and inclusive society supporting individuals in their journey toward mental well-being." if indeed the book in any part was created using AI - it begs the question why!

Jan Allison
Date: 10/9/2024 10:24:00 AM

Because its a poetry site and you should set an example to everyone and write poetry not get a bot to do it for you. It really reflects badly on you and is quite ironic a poetry site produces a book using AI.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/8/2024 2:15:00 PM

As indicated in the book, that book's poems were almost 100% written by AI. Why do you ask?

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 9:01:00 AM

If we had roads in place with my name on for every time I've taken the high road when you've been directly offensive then I'd be more famous than the Romans Tom. I've offered you some advice on your problem of "haters" it's up to you if you take note.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 8:55:00 AM

Taking the high road for the third time. Have a great day Dilly. As far as your skewed view of Tom Woody, may I suggest you check out my page? There you will find many supporters who understand that I am genuinely for peace. Having a different or even opposing view on a matter does not constitute rabble rousing. Like a friend of mine and I like to say, "I'm just me..."

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 8:52:00 AM

Thank TPS. I probably should have reported the behaviour as and when it occurred. This isn't my usual style but I did get a little bee in my bonnet this time. In future I'll collate the evidence and pass to yourselves.

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 8:49:00 AM

There are no instances of people needing to block me for offensive comments on their page Tom. No instances of me needing to call out people as haters. I think you would benefit from a quiet period of reflection on why it always happens to you.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/7/2024 8:47:00 AM

Take the high road everyone (sigh).

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 8:38:00 AM

Ditto

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 8:34:00 AM

Nobody wins Tom, not if you carry on behaving the way you do.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 8:21:00 AM

You win Dilly. Again, have a pleasant day. I know I will

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 7:48:00 AM

I'm not demonising you Tom, I'm just highlighting the tactics you use and perhaps even giving you a heads up why you feel you have 'haters'. Your use insidious means to cause trouble. You bait people into reacting then remove your original comments. You crash comment threads of people who have asked you to leave them alone. You promote peace whilst being the most trouble causing person I have ever encountered. We all exist in our own echo chambers Tom, but if you reflected you'd realise it's the way you conduct yourself that creates the situations you claim are bullying. You're not my opponent, you're just a person trying to undermine and upset me. Why you blocked me I have no idea - I don't even read your poetry and never had apart from once when you asked me to.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 7:20:00 AM

Sigh. Demonizing your opponent has a long history of success. Since you are aware I have you blocked, and since you are equally aware of the comments you have made in the past about gate crashing, I find your accusations to be hollow, the pan calling the kettle black. Wow! 99%? Did you take a survey? Have you failed to notice the moderate tone admins are taking on the subject, which parallel my own? You're a decent poet Dilly and your views are free speech. In the grand finale, we will see how things develop. Meantime, I have a new blog on some changes/upgrades for PS. Have a superlative day

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 6:43:00 AM

My joining a comment thread is ok because I've never been asked not to by the poster, I use my intuition on this because I haven't been asked repeatedly to not do it. You have repeatedly been asked not to do it due to your intent. That's where we differ and in fact where 99% of the people on the site differ from you. (Intent, just to make that clear)

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 6:39:00 AM

The very fact you return to this blog shows you tout for trouble. Plus mocking my name after I advised you that upsets me. The opinion I'm expressing is that your opinion can be expressed in your own blog or your own comment thread and that was if people engage you'll know it isn't inappropriate to intrude (as has been mentioned numerous times). The other point I'm making is that I imagine every person in this thread has you blocked for causing offence, yet you leap into their comment threads repeatedly and bait until they react then start shouting that you are being picked on. I for one have never gone to your page and left offensive comments. Yet you did it to me regularly until I blocked you. This isn't people badgering or hounding you. It is you trying to bait people and accuse them for your own ends. I'd place a bet you are the most blocked person on the site. I'd suggest an adjustment to the way you behave will reduce your cited incidences of bullying to 0.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 5:16:00 AM

Ahhh yes another personal attack So sad Dill. Because I have an opinion different from yours I'm hounding people? Since you also have added your two cents on all the blogs what does that make you? Nevermind, I won't retaliate. But neither will I be silenced by haters. Peace, love, joy...

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/7/2024 1:24:00 AM

Haha this is funny (likely the thread will delete after I post) but trailing someone in different comment threads from blog to blog to blog then saying THEY are being badgered! When he LITERALLY hounds people who try and avoid him and baits people continually to react then holds it aloft. I'd love to see the stats on who holds the accolade of "most blocked" on the site...

Tom Woody
Date: 10/6/2024 9:37:00 AM

Of course you do. So why are you "badgering" me with your personal opinion, in essence stating that I have no right or freedom to voice my own? Please refrain from attempting to silence me Tania. It's so... undemocratic

Tania Kitchin
Date: 10/6/2024 8:37:00 AM

Tom, I think the problem is with you. You continue to badger members regarding their opinions of AI use and how it is very dishonest. We PS members have every right to "take issue" with those adding fake poems to the site.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/5/2024 7:27:00 PM

Therein lies the problem with the side you and yours is taking. AI can and will continue to be a useful tool and will only become moreso as time progresses. If the authors are transparent in stating the book is AI generated, why take issue? You can simply choose to read it or not read it. It's entirely a different animal than those who pretend AI poetry is their own handiwork

Suzette
Richards

Date: 10/5/2024 4:28:00 AM

The million-dollar question: Would it not be a lot easier when people write anything to be posted on this site, poetry or otherwise, to clearly identify it as being AI-generated and the date produced? Ie, calling for transparency from all parties. This is then the only other text besides the poem being allowed in the Poem Textbox. Most of this cloak and dagger stuff should go away - we can carry on spending our time reading and writing poetry to our heart's content. In order for that to happen, TPS would need to remove the threat of losing one's account if AI poetry is posted. LET THE READERS DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO READ. AI poetry would still be excluded from entering/winning any contests.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/7/2024 5:15:00 AM

As you have said on previous occasions: AI is here to stay. Either it needs to be eradicated roots and all, or tolerated. By giving people the choice of self-censorship, the readers have the choice whether they want to read and comment.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/6/2024 8:15:00 AM

Your assumption is that people would be honest.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/5/2024 5:11:00 AM

This can be added to the Poem Form list as the preferred option. Most AI-generated 'poetry' don't conform to the form stipulated in any case.

Brian
Strand

Date: 10/4/2024 10:51:00 PM

Mark in view of difficulties of identification of AI poems one deterrent would be to restrict contest entry/POD/POW to premium members ie sufficate air of publicity to this practice at PS

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/5/2024 6:18:00 AM

There are also premium members using AI. However, this is a good idea as it's unlikely people will repeatedly pay for new accounts as their old one gets found out. The downside is the contests are a major draw to this site as people want to test their poetry prowess. Anything that deters numbers affects advertising income and non paying members add a lot of foot fall

Suzette
Richards

Date: 10/4/2024 7:23:00 PM

Burden of proof: I think that the bottom line is the past performance of any given poet. AI checkers are used (in my case as sponsor) merely as a last resort; confirming or dispelling my suspicions...I, therefore, reserve the right not to judge blind in the FINAL selection of the winners list. New poets will loose out if their poems sound too good to be true, especially regards rhyme and meter. I try to design my contests in such a way as to scramble AI's tin brain, eg it can't write certain poetic forms, but 'excell' at sonnets, Villanelle, Limerick, but to name a few. AI might get good, but it has no soul. It is like comparing flowers with plastic wreaths; the latter can't mask the odour.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 7:52:00 PM

*Cave canem

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 7:43:00 PM

Comparison: Cave cane, and We Hate the Ones we have Wronged. Both Suzette Prime poems: the first post AI, the second pre-AI. Both score 15% AI probably, but these are 100% my creations. But the poetic voice is constant and the vocabulary is consistent. Result: The latest poem would pass muster in my Suzette Prime contest.

Keith D
Trestrail

Date: 10/4/2024 2:52:00 PM

The AI genie is out of the bottle and won’t ever be put back so just accept that’s the world we live in. You can rage against the machine all you want but that would be like whizzing into a hurricane. It’s sad and it’s alarming but it’s a reality.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 4:37:00 PM

What I've been saying all along...

Lin
Lane

Date: 10/4/2024 1:55:00 PM

Why is it some of us feel we're being attacked by Aliens? Could be because we are. It's never a waste of time to seek a remedy for an invasion of any sort. I don't sponsor contests, but I do sympathize with those of you who do and want to award your placements to people. I'll continue to enter those contests that interest me, and refrain from any further blog comments on the matter. However, I've one question for TPS... You wrote, "Publicly accusing a person of using AI will get your account banned." Will you then ban the account of a poet who is proven to have posted an AI generated poem?

Lin Lane
Date: 10/4/2024 2:41:00 PM

Since the AI issue started, I've thought of 2001: A Space Odyssey in which a computer, HAL (Heuristically Programmed Algorithmic Computer) takes control from a human. I was comparing AI to the takeover science fiction does in alien movies... only AI is not science fiction.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 2:35:00 PM

Think of teachers these days. It really is almost impossible for a teacher to know if a student has written an article or paper. In fact, there are paper writing services. AI does a fantastic job at writing papers. Teachers can only determine your knowledge through tests and Interacting with a student.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 2:32:00 PM

@Lin, that sounds like a sound decision. Although, the alien metaphor is going over my head.

Lin Lane
Date: 10/4/2024 2:19:00 PM

The innocent should always be first priority, but that's not always the way it plays out. What we have to ask ourselves is, "Do we continue to write poetry that must compete (and I don't mean in contests) with lines created by a machine?" My response is yes, I will and if an alien gets his plug pulled in the process, so be it.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 2:13:00 PM

@Lin, please read our original post above. As we mentioned, there is no tool, NO TOOL that exist that is 100% accurate. There are tools that are better than other tools, but even the BEST tools are not 100% accurate. So what we have to ask ourselves is do we want to agree 100% with the tool we are using even though it may read poems as being AI when they are not, or err on the side of caution to protect the innocent?

Lin Lane
Date: 10/4/2024 2:07:00 PM

You wrote, "Unfortunately, the way things are going, there's going to come a point VERY soon where we won't be able to tell the difference." If we've not yet reached that point, which your statement indicates, you're still able to differentiate between AI and human. Is that not what you meant?

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 2:04:00 PM

What do you mean by “proven?“ Seriously, how would you determine that?

Team
Poetrysoup

Date: 10/4/2024 1:19:00 PM

Unfortunately, the way things are going, there's going to come a point VERY soon where we won't be able to tell the difference. In fact, we are almost already there. We don't know what this will mean for poetry, but AI has already killed a few occupations.

Di11y Da11y
Date: 10/4/2024 2:56:00 PM

May I ask what reporting an AI account will result in?

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 2:27:00 PM

Exactly. AI will only get better and better. It's not going anywhere anytime soon

John
Anderson

Date: 10/4/2024 10:17:00 AM

The link you provide does not go to the grammarly in-house detector => https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector BUT to https://undetectable.ai/ Is this what you meant?? The later is more authoritative and is more widely used as arguably the best as it incorporates a group of tools for its tests.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 1:13:00 PM

No, we have used undetectable.ai and prefer Grammarly AI.

David
Kavanagh

Date: 10/4/2024 6:32:00 AM

The sonnet below is 100% AI, and your recommended AI checker is passing it as human??

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/7/2024 9:02:00 AM

Won’t be me getting hurt I don’t use AI, No witch hunt from me either, the PS community are not going to roll over and accept AI as a done deal, and will continue to fight the fakes, any contest sponsor worth their salt will too!

Tom Woody
Date: 10/7/2024 6:12:00 AM

These last two comments highlight the problem perfectly, and demonstrate why any witch hunt will ultimately fail, but not until some get hurt, sadly.

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/7/2024 3:27:00 AM

Maybe you forgot the last full stop, mine is still showing 100% human?

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/6/2024 8:18:00 AM

Incorrect, the Grammarly AI dectector showed it as 50% AI. So, it's not completely passing it as human.

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 2:30:00 PM

I’m not saying AI is an easy issue to deal with, but the least we can do is not make it easy for the fakers on this site, or like some seem to think it’s best just to sit idly by and hum Que sera sera, PS needs to be more proactive and come up with something better than https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector, cheers David

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 1:14:00 PM

Please read our post again. "Again, please understand that these tools are not 100% reliable—heck, they're not even 50% reliable. AI is a new technology, and the results are a moving target. " We prefer to err on the side of caution. If you run a contest, how you handle things are up to you.

Craig Cornish
Date: 10/4/2024 9:28:00 AM

David, Quillbot.com is a good detector though one that leans toward saying AI - I prefer surrounding the matter from many angles and then, hopefully some truth will surface - & as the Bible says "the truth will set us free"!

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 9:03:00 AM

Meaning is in the eye of the beholder David. In the end, words are words. But yes, I still prefer the human touch

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 8:38:00 AM

Thanks Craig, that new PS recommended AI checker will do nothing to resolve the scourge of AI, in fact will only encourage it, if this is the best tool PS has to offer, then the towel is well and truly thrown in by them; As for global warming Tommy, AI could write something beautiful but utterly meaningless about it!

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 7:51:00 AM

Good luck with that Craig. While you're at it can you please take care of the global warming thingy? It's really become a nuisance... (tongue in cheek)

Craig Cornish
Date: 10/4/2024 7:44:00 AM

100% agreed David - we too easily throw in the towels these days, and if we continue to do so, we'll run out of towels and consumed by false pretenders. We must do our MOST to resist this incursion and others, lest we become simple pawns in it all...

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 7:16:00 AM

That’s my whole point Tommy how can we be true to ourselves, it’s supposed to be a community for better or worse, in the past we could have a row or disagreement at a personal level, now even that fun (banter) element has been taken away from us, thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 7:08:00 AM

I suspect all poetry sites are infested at this point. Some may want to disconnect. It's a personal decision for sure. My choice is to be unconcerned about what others may or may not be doing, just focusing on being true to myself. Have a great day David

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 7:02:00 AM

My point is Tommy, if contest sponsors use this new PS recommended site, it’s going to render all their contests irrelevant, I have faith in, https://gptzero.me/ but have absolutely zero in https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector, I really don’t want to be part of an AI infested poetry site,

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 6:56:00 AM

Sorry, my comment/statement is actually on Constance' blog

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 6:53:00 AM

If you read my comment below I think there's some validity to the notion that chasing after ghosts is fruitless. Who is using AI and who's not? Which checkers are reliable and which not? And what about partial AI? What if 20% of the poem is AI enhanced but the rest human? What about AI vids or songs that are used to adorn our human poems? It's just too much worry David. Cheaters have always existed and always will. As I point out below, we should just be concerned with what WE do, our own integrity and let admins do the worrying (or not) for us

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 6:48:00 AM

I checked it on https://gptzero.me/ the checker we are not supposed to use and it comes back 100% AI, which is exactly what it is, try it for yourself, PS must do more, if AI is inevitable the least we/they can do is make it difficult for the abusers to get away with it, rather than just accept them for the frauds they are and do nothing??

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 6:37:00 AM

You make a valid point David. Most of us agree that AI checkers are inconsistent, maybe even useless. Gary makes some good points below. I can't imagine wasting my valuable time constantly checking poems on unreliable checkers. Richard also makes a valid point, though I have to say the AI poem you posted has great meter and I found quite awesome. AI will only get better as time goes on. It's an unresolvable conundrum, I fear

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 10/4/2024 6:35:00 AM

Oops!

David
Kavanagh

Date: 10/4/2024 6:30:00 AM

When autumn whispers secrets through the trees, A tapestry of gold and crimson glows, The crisping air, a gentle, cooling breeze, As nature dons her vibrant, fiery clothes. The harvest moon ascends with silver light, Illuminating fields where pumpkins rest, While leaves cascade like dreams in graceful flight, Each rustling sound a lullaby expressed. The days grow short, as shadows stretch and play, With cozy nights that beckon us to stay, To sip warm cider by the crackling fire, And share our tales beneath the starry choir. Oh October, month of change and cheer, In your embrace, the heart finds joy sincere.

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 8:05:00 AM

I love it, but that doesn't mean I love AI

Craig Cornish
Date: 10/4/2024 7:53:00 AM

I would have had to place this write in a contest because it's better than most, however, it is gag-me-with-a-spoon "Hallmark" which is fine for a "Welcome Autumn" card, but not excellent creative poetry. I'll blog

David
Kavanagh

Date: 10/4/2024 6:20:00 AM

The AI detector site that you want us to use is also a site for changing AI text into undetectable human-like form, this is only going to compound the issue please look at your recommended site again, before the whole soup is totally ruined, I cannot believe you have recommended this site! (See below) https://www.grammarly.com/ai-detector Use our AI Humanizer to transform AI generated text into undetectable human-like content You can bypass all major AI content detectors in a single click with Undetectable AI. We have the most advanced and accurate AI detection remover tool on the market. Our AI humanizer will rewrite your AI text to have the qualities and markers of human-written content!

David Kavanagh
Date: 10/4/2024 2:05:00 PM

I totally get what you’re saying Suzette, I generally go on gut feelings myself when reading poems, but the site that PS recommend for sponsors or indeed the community in general to use as an AI checker is wholly unreliable, and that was indeed the main gist of my comment, for sure I don’t envy the job of any sponsor, but would definitely like to see them go the extra mile when checking and judging contests, for the simple reason of not making it easy for the fakers, I’m just delighted to hear that most sponsors are stepping up to the mark now, cheers David

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 1:17:00 PM

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 12:00:00 PM

Lastly (then I will keep quiet): The only reason I am commenting regarding sponsors an AI poetry is that it is the topic of this blog. There are other areas where AI is intruding. So, discontinuing contests is not an option.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 10:43:00 AM

If not 100% foolproof (which it is not), nothing can be done about it, unless the culprit owns up. To get to that point, the sponsor needs to direct the query to .... Now this is where it gets tricky. So, suspicion will be the order of the day and it is a no win situation. Either we keep our thoughts to ourselves or not run anymore contests... Really a Hobson's Choice. Oh, for the wisdom of Solomon!

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 10:02:00 AM

The reason for the different results is that some checkers check a wider range of the generative tools. Eg Scribbr (my preference) checks CoPilot, but the Grammarly test does not.

Suzette Richards
Date: 10/4/2024 9:41:00 AM

David, I only seems to be effective on prose/business letters/theses, but makes absolute garbage of a poem. It was part of my tests I did for my blog, Voir dire. No, I am no expert, but our gut feelings should not be ignored. Each sponsor regularly choose what appeals to them.

Joseph
May

Date: 10/4/2024 6:20:00 AM

TPS, thank you for letting us know the steps to take to detect AI if we are sponsoring a Contest and suspect AI, Are we then to take action based on those results, or send the results to you

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/4/2024 1:20:00 PM

You can report 100% AI poems using the report tool.

Constance
La France

Date: 10/4/2024 5:30:00 AM

TPS, thank you for taking this matter seriously and explaining to us what to do regarding AI poems, I will do as you have instructed. I have armed myself with three realiable detectors. And will be checking all poems written for any of my contests and will send my results of any found AI to TPS for you to check. It is up to other sponsors to do as they wish regarding checking for AI. Do you ignore it or report it. But, I must keep my integrity.

Linda Alice Fowler
Date: 10/4/2024 8:24:00 AM

Integrity is the key word here Constance.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 10/4/2024 4:52:00 AM

Years ago American golfers were up in arms when then the PGA allowed European golfers to play the PGA tour because they came over and started winning. Fortunately, the PGA turned to their golfers and told them to quit belly aching and up their game if they wanted to win. Strange it seems that AI poems entering contests should be winning, maybe we just need to follow the example of the American golfers and up our game. Take care, Richard

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 6:11:00 AM

Ouch! But I love it

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 10/4/2024 5:49:00 AM

That wouldn’t work for me. Got a wicked slice!

Gary
Radice

Date: 10/4/2024 1:51:00 AM

Thanks for this PS. I have noticed on the link you have given, the detector also offers a humanizer: ” transforming AI-generated content into human-like, engaging text.” On one hand with one tool it helps a person to detect AI and on the other with another tool it helps a person avoid AI detection!!?? My view in all this is pragmatic. Whether we like it or not AI's plagiarism is here to stay on all sites and will only get harder to detect. We have to rely on human honesty and integrity. Can I suggest that energy tackling it might be better employed at the stage that people first join the site? Easy said but what ? :) Perhaps new posters should have to comment on others’ poems before they can post their own? Perhaps new free accounts pay a deposit that is given back once they post several poems that are AI free? Dunno. Just some very random thoughts on helping to deter spam and AI users leaving PS to the real poets. Cheers - Gary

Tom Woody
Date: 10/4/2024 6:16:00 AM

Yes Gary, AI is not going away, it will only become more prolific as time goes on. If you read comments carefully, you'll see most of the angst here is tied to peer sponsored contests which I have long lamented are problematic for a number of reasons. I have some ideas for eliminating them altogether and replacing with something better, perhaps monthly challenges where everyone who enters does so for the simple joy of meeting the challenge successfully and not for an arbitrary placement. I may blog on that at a future time...

Jan
Allison

Date: 10/2/2024 10:09:00 AM

I regret to say that I am loath to contact you regarding any matters as I have 3 issues pending since July! I had hoped once you got the info regarding the new anthology on to the site then you would have time to deal with things but this is not the case. I even asked for Mark Pringle to contact me himself... but never got any response

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 10/2/2024 10:33:00 AM

We do remember replying to you. Did YOu check your email SPAM folder? Please submit the issues again via email and we'll review them.

Suzette
Richards

Date: 10/2/2024 9:52:00 AM

Thank you for your thoughts on this very touchy subject - people get hot under the collar when it is brought up. May I please enquire what the procedure is with contest entries where we obviously have to judge blind? Maybe the sponsors could get access to the poets' identities after the contest has closed. We may then report the suspected poem as per the method described by you. Just an aside: I have done my own testing of AI detectors and have found Scribbr reliable. Will these poets be penalised (blocked from entering further contests, for example)? Or what recourse do we have, if any? Yes, we should tread lightly and not accuse poets left, right and centre. Checking earlier poems is tops.

Tom
Woody

Date: 10/2/2024 9:43:00 AM

Thank you for this

Team
Poetrysoup

Date: 10/2/2024 9:34:00 AM

MOST IMPORTANTLY, DO NOT ACCUSE members of using AI on PoetrySoup. Report the poem using the report option on the poem's page. Publicly accusing a person of using AI will get your account banned.

My Past Blog Posts


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AI Generated Poem Detection Date Posted: 10/2/2024 9:28:00 AM
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PoetrySoup's Latest Anthology is Here: Reflections on the Important Things Date Posted: 11/16/2023 9:52:00 AM
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To All PoetrySoup Members. Censorship is a Slippery Slope. But Hate Speech... Date Posted: 10/31/2023 2:40:00 PM
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UPDATE: Our Upcoming Anthology Date Posted: 10/2/2023 5:59:00 AM
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New PoetrySoup Anthology or Book. What are Your Thoughts? Date Posted: 2/13/2023 11:55:00 AM
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Remembering Our Dear Connie Marcum Wong Date Posted: 9/14/2022 11:14:00 AM
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PS: It's Still Poetry - An Anthology of Contemporary Poetry from Around the World - The Anthology is Here! Date Posted: 1/2/2022 1:11:00 PM
Anthology Update...Waiting for Amazon.com Legal Date Posted: 1/2/2022 10:48:00 AM
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RULES: Poem Content and Personal Attacks, Battles, or Cyberbullying and Harassment Date Posted: 12/20/2021 1:48:00 PM
PoetrySoup Anthology Update Date Posted: 12/14/2021 2:43:00 PM

My Recent Poems

Date Posted	PoemTitle	Form	Categories
1/6/2025	Herbbhusn	Abecedarian	age,
1/28/2024	test	Free verse	america,
12/16/2020	Email Envy	Free verse	anger,angst,
10/21/2020	A Good Haiku	Haiku	funny,
7/21/2020	Fgadfgads	Chant Royal	aubade,
5/21/2020	Qweeebler Quip Num - a Vogon Poem	Vogon Poetry	science fiction,
11/13/2019	Nshdudu	Ballade	10th grade,
8/26/2019	Fjfkfmq	Carpe Diem	angst,
6/18/2019	Test	Chant Royal	absence,
4/14/2019	Fgadfgbbb!?	Cinquain	blue,boxing day ,
4/24/2018	School	Free verse	2nd grade,3rd grade,4th g
4/2/2018	Chunari	Free verse	red,
1/10/2018	Vogon Love	Vogon Poetry	i love you,love,
3/6/2017	Trumpty Dumpty	Rhyme	funny,political,
1/22/2016	Gfadga Grup	Haibun	art,
5/22/2015	Soup's Test	Blank verse	lost,
10/23/2014	Spicy Spicy	Dramatic Verse	food,

My Photos

Fav Poems

PoemTitle	Form	Categories
Hard Hat Heroes	Ballad	people,song-daughter,fire
A Weakness Among Us	Senryu	life,
The Enmity	Light Verse	feelings,history,identity
Workshop Poem Life With Its Obstacles	Alliteration	inspiration,inspirational
- Valentine Jewel -	Couplet	beautiful,boyfriend,girlf
Cupid Had An Arrow	Rhyme	beautiful,happiness,imagi
Comes, Spring	Diminished Hexaverse	appreciation,fun,imagery,
Fair Game	Political Verse	america,anger,betrayal,bi

Fav Poets

Poet	Country
Carol Sunshine Brown	United States	Read
Marycile Beer	United States	Read
Andrea Dietrich	United States	Read
Debbie Guzzi	United States	Read
Carolyn Devonshire	United States	Read
Demetrios Trifiatis	Greece	Read
Darren White	Netherlands	Read
Etienne Lariviere	France	Read
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