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AI is Here to Stay! So, Now What?

Blog Posted by Team Poetrysoup: 7/28/2025 3:37:00 PM

AI is here to stay and will become an integral part of everyday work and living. So, the question for PoetrySoup is, where do we go from here? How do we address AI poems?

Our Potential AI Solution

We are considering incorporating AI detection on the poem submission page. However, we've encountered a technical and programming issue. We are researching a solution.

If we can implement AI detection on the poem submission page, poems written by AI will be flagged accordingly, but will still be allowed.

We are not policing AI at the moment. Why not? AI detection tools are NOT ACCURATE, no matter which tool you use. What's interesting is that this post, which was written without the use of AI, was flagged by the tool we use as 50% AI-generated content. LOL. Anyway, AI Detection is a losing battle that would require more resources than we have. For contests, we leave it up to the contest sponsor to determine how AI poems are handled.

Yes, AI is here to stay! Potentially, to our detriment.

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Darius
Benhaim

Date: 7/31/2025 4:10:00 PM

Until 2024 I had no idea AI poetry was even a thing. So yes, curiosity challenged me to test my own poems against various AI checkers and 11 (yes 11) poems submitted thru no less than 4 AI detectors were met with having some percentage of AI generation (lol). To all the literary journals that previously compensated me for my work, if you’re reading this… sorry I will not be refunding your money. Look, life is short. And the AI programmers are the only ones truly winning. That said, To Whom It May Concern: I implore you… keep writing. Don’t let sum imperfect program or the opinions, biases, prejudices and agendas of others influence your love & joy of being a poet. Lastly… trust the process.

Bj
Legros Kelley

Date: 7/31/2025 12:21:00 AM

In addition to regular contests which we obviously will have to judge by gut instinct (I'm assuming), maybe a proxied option for those who would like to participate. My husband is taking a proxied EPA test which requires a camara on the tester's computer keyboard and make sure no cheating can happen. If there were contests via zoom on a timed subject prompted by a sponsor, and poets in the challenge cannot be identified by the sponsor so as to judge blind. Proxied poems could be posted before time is up at which poems become unavailable to edit further, nor show up on the contestants 'My Poems' until contest is finalized. Just an idea...for the tech savvy, which I don't claim to be.

Bj Legros Kelley
Date: 7/31/2025 12:42:00 AM

This of course as an addition to the old regular contests. I was inspired by the distant proxied test hubby has to take and thought it was a great idea. Maybe the same idea would lend itself to an interactive new poetry challenge contest form, if possible. Otherwise, I agree with Andrea, AI will probably mess things up even worse, so the regular contests should be judged by the sponsors as they have been. It is strange and sad that people would cheat, I cannot imagine why they could feel any accomplishment in that.

Tom
Woody

Date: 7/30/2025 1:36:00 PM

"Old MacDonald had a lab, AIAIO. And in that lab he made a bot, AIAIO. With a poem here and a lyric there, here a verse there a verse, everywhere a verse verse, old MacDonald had a lab, AIAIO."

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/30/2025 2:01:00 PM

Praise worthy adaptation Tommy, gave me a smile, thought I’d been left here on my own.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/30/2025 11:28:00 AM

I found your definitions on an old blog. So, one box for human written, one for AI assisted written.

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/30/2025 11:32:00 PM

OK ... I'm in a different time zone, hence only replying now. TPS is thinking on how to proceed. I will sit quietly in my corner and wait ...

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/30/2025 1:24:00 AM

Ok, Two tick boxes, one declaring human written the other AI written !!!!!!!!

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/30/2025 6:33:00 AM

Forgive my ignorance Suz. What is AI collab?

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/30/2025 1:53:00 AM

A 3rd: AI collab. (There is a difference). Or better still: Have "AI collab" as a poetry form - what it in fact is. Otherwise, it is a given that the poet is claiming it to be human written - AI-generated poetry is still forbidden, and the details around this thorning issue can stand over until TPS has resolved the legal implications surrounding the implimentation of it. As with sponsoring contests, I would like to see critical thinking returned to the poets and not left up to a flawed app to resolve issues.

Arlo
Parker

Date: 7/29/2025 7:22:00 PM

Brave New World, Animal Farm, 1984, Fahrenheit 451…… the future is now and AI is on fire. Separate but equal never works. Choose integrity, honesty, talent, passion, ….. poetry.

Charlotte Puddifoot
Date: 7/30/2025 3:32:00 PM

yep <3

Brandy
Nicole

Date: 7/29/2025 6:57:00 PM

So now what ? For me, I will read poetry and keep an open mind. It's so difficult determining the truth. There is a difference between using AI and plagiarizing. The last needs addressing, for sure. Speaking from the heart here, I will never let AI run over me and my true poetic self. Every day I come to this place and read poetry. I feel blessed being able to do so. Life is filled with many obstacles and I find comfort in poetry. Being here with friends. I'm not naive, I do understand what's happening, but I choose to not let it bring me down. I've always told a friend, things work out the way they should, when the time is right. It's hard waiting sometimes, I know. ~ Brandy

Rob Carmack
Date: 7/30/2025 2:55:00 AM

Well said. AI is a unique challenge for our time, and it is going to continue to affect other areas of our lives. We will be presented with many tough choices. Whatever one has faith in, this is another test on just how strong the faith is.

Team
Poetrysoup

Date: 7/29/2025 6:56:00 PM

This is certainly a hot topic!

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/29/2025 4:32:00 PM

Admin, Would it be possible to add a conscience box in the submit poems page asking people to declare their poem is AI free before posting ?

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 7/31/2025 11:45:00 AM

Richard, what I am trying to say is that people who use AI will not admit to it, so what good will the conscience box do? Soup can do it; I just don't think it's going to stop AI use or plagiarism.

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/30/2025 3:20:00 PM

This is from an idea put forward by TPS, which I too poo pooed first off but the more I thought on it the more potential I could see

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/30/2025 3:14:00 PM

The conscience is a funny old thing poke it often enough and eventually it needs salving.

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/30/2025 3:11:00 PM

Hi Andrea, Don’t know if you noticed but I called it a conscience box, the idea being you have to click one before posting a poem.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 7/30/2025 10:23:00 AM

So all the liars can keep lying? I seriously doubt it would be taken seriously though I'd like to think all those here are honest. But because of liars, that's why we are even having this discussion.

Benjamin Bartley
Date: 7/30/2025 8:06:00 AM

good idea!

Marilene
Evans

Date: 7/29/2025 2:28:00 PM

Just like your feelings when writing poems, rely on your gut feeling for most of you are members for years, you already know or familiar with most of the contestants writings and most of all, sometimes the results are subjective depending on what the sponsors like.

Marilene
Evans

Date: 7/29/2025 2:26:00 PM

Yes, AI is here to stay and there is no regulatory provision to enforce AI regulation, as it is not included in the One Big Beautiful ??? Bill Act. It is definitely here to stay and more companies to generate AI catering to the users of AI, like using AI poems instead of creating their own. Just like the poets' creating poems with their imagination, feelings, experiences, word choice and types of poems; sponsors could continue on checking AI websites and relying on your own judgment.

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 7/29/2025 1:00:00 PM

With all due respect, TeamSoup, I think automatic AI checkers will mess things up even more. If you come up with one, I intend to repost really old examples of my best work and see just how that poem is rated for AI . If it systematically gives over 50%, that will prove it's unfair because old poems were not able to be produced AI. IF this were the case, it means that poets who showed up as mostly AI would have an automatic bias placed upon them when judges saw that number they were given. I don't see any answers here. One poet here I've been told has managed to figure out a way to beat the system and humanize his AI work! Rhymers with perfet meter and grammar are also likely to be flagged.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 7/29/2025 9:16:00 PM

hanks, Suzette, and well said, Craig: machines would never shed a tear over any of it.

Craig Cornish
Date: 7/29/2025 1:35:00 PM

AD, I'm with you on the technology thingy--and I never use the Premier (even though I prompted it years ago) because it restricts flexibility and I separate things on my own (usually not multiple placements)--Anyway, a bag full of contest trophies won't buy you (collective pronoun) a thrice chewed piece of bubble gum anyway...Yes, it's fun to be recognized, but never would it ruin a second of my day not to be--WAY too many special others and moments close enough to REALLY hold, to dwell on false or insignificant realities--we must write for ourselves and our posterity and let computers write to their own---and their "own" machines would never shed a tear over any of it! Hugs.......

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 1:20:00 PM

I like the point you make in favour of Standard challenges, opposed to Premiere contests with trophies, Andrea. I never thought of it in those terms.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 7/29/2025 1:06:00 PM

Also, people like me are technologically retarded. Others seem to understand nearly anything about AI. Well, I hope it all works out for the best. I say just leave the judgement in the hands of the sponsors. Some of us treat our contest as challenges and never use Premiere area. At least in standard contests, no trophies can ever go to an AI poet. Just my own opinion here.

Craig
Cornish

Date: 7/29/2025 12:50:00 PM

Sigh---I'm sure you admit, do your best - you have legal consequences (perhaps), we don't...give up - no - be vigilant - yes...it's here to stay. AI writes from what we have written, so write something in a way that hasn't been - actually nothing new here, if we think about it---way - way too much to externalize, and those who can never do it won't comprehend anyway---if we manufactured buggy whips, we must now manufacture accelerators!

Jan
Allison

Date: 7/29/2025 12:39:00 PM

Hi Admin, perhaps when you produce your next anthology it would be prudent to say poems 'produced' by members of Poetry soup. As you aren't able to accurately check for A I I trust you will be checking for plagiarism! We know people are not honest about writing their own poetry. This has been witnessed over recent months with the influx of AI poetry and plagiarised poetry . Please keep the poetry contests as they are, it is sad to see the same old same old suggestion, its like a broken record and it upsets those who enjoy the contests as writing prompts. On a personal level I would never have written limericks were it not for soup contests and have many limericks in my 2 books.

Benjamin Bartley
Date: 7/30/2025 8:11:00 AM

Why anyone would want to use an AI poem to represent themselves is mind boggling. That's like admitting to oneself that you're a loser. So, anyone whose is plaigerizing themselves are losers even if they do win anything. Idiocracy at its worst. Godluck America! It is a brave new world indeed.

Suzette
Richards

Date: 7/29/2025 6:37:00 AM

If it is about keeping the integrity of the contests in tact, then run contests which are not easily actioned by AI. But having said that, the sponsors also need to word or present the material in such a manner that contestants can't just copy and paste it to an AI prompt - unless they don't mind AI poetry. Hence, if AI has its own category (as I suggested below), it should level the playing field. Let the best person win - AI would never replace poets as it is built to solve problems fast. This is a laid-back site and none of us are competing for a Poet Laurette.

Benjamin Bartley
Date: 7/30/2025 8:12:00 AM

Amen, sista!

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 8:44:00 AM

Let sponsors judge their contests and not required to police this. Frankly, on first reading, many AI poems are not half bad, but if submitted to my contest, I will read each poem and analyse it (not nitpicky or looking to catch people out). My selection process was described in a blog long before AI craze. No, I'm not a know-all, but would like to encourage poets, and see a decline in AI poem dumping. Just my thoughts on this.

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/29/2025 8:29:00 AM

TPS, Asking cheats to be honest, really

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/29/2025 8:28:00 AM

With these people the big get off is beating human poetry, they get a rush seeing their poem at the top of the winners list.

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 8:10:00 AM

Mmmm thinking .. If they have an equal chance as human poets, then there would be no incentive to hide the fact (as is now the case). Designing contests which are not easily emulated by AI (see my current one for an example), then AI users don't stand much of a chance against human poets - not without a hands on adjustment to the AI poems. They might as well write the poem from scratch. AI excel in haiku, senryu, Limericks, Pantoom, Villanelle, and their all time favourite: sonnets.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/29/2025 7:42:00 AM

The problem with your solution is that you assume the poet will be honest in identifying their poem as AI-generated. Even so, we could ask the poet at submission time if AI was used to assist in writing the poem.

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/29/2025 7:27:00 AM

I hear what you're saying Suz, but it's like saying, you go and play in your corner and we'll play in ours, they just won't do it, they'll just hijack the human written contests like are now.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/29/2025 5:44:00 AM

Like or not, Our dear Tom is right, (even if the language and offered solution can seem somewhat outlandish) in bringing the attention to the contests. The focus now should be on how to keep them going and retain their integrity.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/29/2025 5:27:00 AM

Poets who write 100% human written poetry are not going to want their poems flagged as AI, Those that use AI and are challenged will say the detectors have it wrong, so either way this proposed solution will not work.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 7/31/2025 11:46:00 AM

Exactly

Brian
Strand

Date: 7/29/2025 3:20:00 AM

1.IS AN AI POEM YOUR OWN WORK? only to the extent you created instructions on what you required of the particular AI 2.DO YOU HAVE COMPLETE COPYRIGHT TO THE AI POEM? not yet legally resolved so TBC.. CONCLUSION :PS(til 2 resolved(if ever) leave everything 'as is '& leave contest sponsors to continue to 'judge 'poems entered in their contests& place or n/a ie Let the 'market' decide! Just saying

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 3:31:00 AM

Brian, there may be AI collaboration which seems to be tolerated in most art circles. A bit like you drafting your house plans and the architects translating it into proper form. But push button users don't understand the ins and outs of poetic forms and can't oversee the mass produced AI slop - just cut and paste. And that is the rub.

Suzette
Richards

Date: 7/28/2025 10:23:00 PM

All this cloak and dagger stuff is unnecessary. Please add "AI-generated" to the poem forms list and be done with it. Each person visiting this site (nearly half a million a month) knows what THEY like. As for sponsors: They could choose to run contests per poetic form or state "Any". As all judging is subjective anyway, it is up to them whether they like or dislike a poem - NO reason is ever required to be given why a poem is rejected in a contest. As I have said many moons ago: If you want to beat AI, you need to up your game and become a better poet than it (especially as there are programmes that write convincing evocative poetry). Putting AI detectors in place might cause more harm than good ... A bit ironic as it is outsourcing one's brain to chase down those that outsource their thinking.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/29/2025 3:34:00 PM

@suzette, that is not precisely true. Poem AI-generation tools do "go out scavenging the internet" to create new poems. So, when you use an AI detector, it looks at patterns created by AI-generated poems that are made from genuine poems, which is why it will detect AI in poems that were not AI-generated. It's a bizarre chicken-and-the-egg scenario.

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 5:05:00 AM

Gary, Taking your updated comment into consideration: The mechanics of AI detectors don’t work that way. Most detection tools evaluate patterns in syntax, rhythm, lexical choices, and probabilities based on models trained with known examples of AI-generated text. They don’t go out scavenging the internet for matches like some rogue detective. They assess likelihood, not plagiarism. If a detector flags a poem as "likely AI," it's generally because it exhibits traits common to machine-generated language—predictable phrasing, low entropy, sometimes a lack of idiosyncratic voice—not because it matches a piece tucked away on a poetry site.

Gary Radice
Date: 7/29/2025 4:28:00 AM

Suzette, I've reworded a sentence of mine below in my comment to read how I originally wanted it to read: "Who's to say AI hasn't scanned our published poems here at PS already and that the reason some of our work is showing AI? Cheers - Gary

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 3:59:00 AM

Oh, my Suzette Prime poems would likely scan as AI content - even those written in 2012! It is just the way I phrase it (My comment now updated in like with your, Gary) :)

Gary Radice
Date: 7/29/2025 12:22:00 AM

I agree with this. A separate AI section. I don't trust the AI detectors - I wish I did. We all want the perfect detectors but they don't exist...yet. Who's to say AI hasn't scanned our published poems here at PS already and that the reason some of our work is showing AI? Cheers - Gary

Suzette Richards
Date: 7/28/2025 10:34:00 PM

Following on from my above suggestion: Where poets have indicated 'AI-generated', they could flag their own poem to invite assistance and suggestions to improve the poem. I have found that a number of contest entries are attempting forms for the first time, and instead of rejecting those poems outright, we could all give a hand as to how to improve their poem (not just the sponsor). By extension, using our own brain to detect and improve on AI poetry, would enhance the poetry and form awareness of the sponsors. How about it, folks? Let us get the vibe back of Soup.

Team
Poetrysoup

Date: 7/28/2025 4:50:00 PM

Lawyers are writing briefs using AI. Students are writing their theses using AI. Search engines are copying wrong AI-written content to create new wrong AI search results. It's a crazy world.

Eileen Manassian
Date: 7/28/2025 11:00:00 PM

In the world of academia, there are consequences for this.... if caught, that is. Granted that is becoming increasingly difficult, but it isn't ACCEPTED. That's the point! We shouldn't just say... this is happening, let's accept it. In no reputable institution will awards be given for AI generated music score, lyrics, literature, or theses, as you mentioned, TPS Let's not go with flow of making human creativity obsolete by falling back on, "well, everybody is doing it!" AI definitely has its place... it's not in poetry.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 7/28/2025 7:44:00 PM

I’m still fuming at the abomination that was the advent of MTV. Suddenly artists were more concerned with crude lip syncing fantasy sequence videos than their music, and the music suffered. Video truly did kill the radio star and AI will kill critical thought and human inspiration. I need a DeLorean!

Brandy Nicole
Date: 7/28/2025 6:02:00 PM

Soon, humans will forget how to do simple things. Or, just decide they don't want to. Sad, indeed.

Team
Poetrysoup

Date: 7/28/2025 4:47:00 PM

I think soupers need to realize that we are in the first trimester of this AI pregnancy. There are no solutions to AI detection. We just have to weather the storm and see what happens in the coming future.

Connie Pachecho
Date: 7/31/2025 6:20:00 PM

This blog sizzled. It's fun. I'm happy to see that this blog kept its doors open, and seeing Tommy getting in trouble was extra fun.

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/29/2025 5:00:00 AM

@Tania, we don’t know what we are going to do. Currently, we do not allow AI poetry. However, there’s no effective way to police it, so we are not policing it.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 7/29/2025 3:17:00 AM

Does this mean that you will be allowing AI generated poems on the site? I know it is listed on the site rules that it is not allowed.

Connie Pachecho
Date: 7/29/2025 1:07:00 AM

I noticed that in PS terms of conditions #8-it states that AI poems are prohibited. Yet in today's blog, the impending solution is to flag AI poems and now allow them to surface (paragraph #2). I'm sorry, but I disagree with this solution. I would rather reside in a community that preserves the integrity of poetry instead being neighbors with poet interlopers.

Connie Pachecho
Date: 7/28/2025 7:20:00 PM

Six months from now, one can hope that the seeds planted bring blossoms, or, as Rob says, the cancer goes into remission. Till then, I can only hold my breath and look out the window of the good old days.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 7/28/2025 7:19:00 PM

Abort abort! The mission that is!

Brandy Nicole
Date: 7/28/2025 6:03:00 PM

Yes Rob, that analogy is a better one.

Rob Carmack
Date: 7/28/2025 5:30:00 PM

A better analogy would be cancer.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 7/28/2025 4:26:00 PM

We learnt from Andreas experience yesterday that 100% human written poems are being flagged as AI. A lot of folk are not going to be happy when theirs are.

Tom
Woody

Date: 7/28/2025 4:08:00 PM

I know you don't want to hear this but I'll bring it up again for what it's worth. Eliminate peer sponsored contests and you reduce the AI problem and many others associated with the contests. Why not consider sponsoring one contest per month to be judged by yourselves or a panel of your choice? You might be surprised how much angst you could prevent by following this simple suggestion.

Richard D Seal
Date: 7/28/2025 4:58:00 PM

The contests were never going to go away Tommy, we have to find a way of making it work, accept this and get the deep thought process going.

Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:57:00 PM

Ahhh I see. Okay I'm done. G'night

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/28/2025 4:52:00 PM

It has absolutely nothing to do with lifetime members. Don't make up stuff in your head. That always gets you in PoetrySoup trouble, Tom.

Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:49:00 PM

Because you want to appease your long termers with lifetime memberships. I get it. Good luck

Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/28/2025 4:45:00 PM

No, poet-sponsored contests will never go away.

Rob Carmack
Date: 7/28/2025 4:37:00 PM

Tommy, you just made AI 'happy' with this statement. This is similar to giving up rights to feel safe, excessive gun control laws, etc. I don't agree with eliminating peer contests, but it would be nice if the admin would do a contest with a panel.

Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:10:00 PM

PS. I understand you don't want to upset some of your long term subscribers. But change is inevitable. Sometimes you have to be willing to take the hit in order to move forward

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