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Our Heroes Reward (this makes me sick)

Blog Posted by Eric Nolan: 11/24/2009 1:20:00 PM

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Cameron Avatar
January 1, 2010 at 2:13 AM
dear Eric, such is the way of the world! we humans are all tribal,animals would not tolerate strangers in their territory, keep out of other countries, we are a very small island and up to our eyes in debt. Ienjoyed reading your letter, but I've stopped worrying aboutevil humans a long time ago.
Nolan Avatar
November 27, 2009 at 11:04 PM
Amen Vince..........Amen
Suzadail Jr. Avatar
November 27, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Elect another liberal. Neither our president, vice president or the elitist Speaker of the HOuse have ever condemned the beheading and mutilation of our soldiers or our businessmen, only the waterboarding of the poor terrorist in Gitmo. We are giving America away for the purpose of image. I'm a 30 year vet and I've never seen anything like this. I wonder what our liberals would have said had they beheaded him and televised it like our good friends in the Mid East did. It is becoming a crime in this country to be patriotic. We need change, if necessary, violent change. BMC Vince Suzadail Jr. USNR-Ret.
Golden Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 6:47 PM
This article brings to mind the dilemma we face on the home front: Offenders having more rights than their victims. When a criminal (or terrorist) breaks the law, it should be expected that during apprehension there could be residual harm or injury. (This doesn't even begin to describe how I personally feel that terrorists should be treated). Here in the States, we have convicted felons who have the right to file lawsuits for any reason...including not being provided with materials they need to practice their religion. While I don't believe in mistreatment of prisoners, I do believe that when the military is involved in handling terrorists, they should not be liable for using their specialized training and every skill at their disposal. So many good points have been made here, especially by you, Eric, Tim, and Frank! This is a great discussion, and I am so glad that you brought the matter to light, Eric!
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November 25, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Eric - Remember that I back you up and totally agree with you on this issue...the point of my scenerio was that this SEAL incident points to something much larger and is a SYMPTOM or a result of what is really going on in our country and the world... Of COURSE if we pulled up and went home both these countries would be over-run by religious zealots who will settle for nothing less than our total destruction... eventually it would spread to every country in the Middle East and one can only imagine the consequences of that! - Tim
Nolan Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I agree with your assessment of Mr Herrera's class. Though I don't wish to detract from the issue of our government not backing up our troops. Being a former member of the military I have seen this first hand but not to this degree. So what if a terrorist got a fat lip while being captured. The SEALS had been tasked with obtaining this target and had been doing so for months. When they complete their mission they are hung out to dry because of a fat lip allegation ? Are we or are we not at war with these people ? If we are then they should drop the issue, if were not at war then bring the troops home and let the terrorist sue the SEALS for medical expenses and "emotional trauma" I realize the latter option is ludicrous but then so is the whole damn issue. If we fought WWII this way we'd all be speaking German and goose stepping. Thanks for your input.
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November 25, 2009 at 3:27 PM
I just have to add one more comment and I'm done...(Mr. Herrera, by the way has just showed us all a lot of class with his kind apology to you, Eric) I have one simple scenerio that I would like to offer for all of us to consider...What would happen if we immediately pulled out of Iraq and Afganistan? What form of governments would come to power? Would they be our friends and work towards a peaceful world? (Iran is already desparately trying to develop nuclear weapons and may have already done so) I don't think there are any simple answers here...never have been and never will be....Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!! - Tm
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November 25, 2009 at 2:41 PM
No need for apologies Frank, I to am sick of all the killing myself. It seems to be the only thing the powers that be are interested in anymore. It is our "political correctness" that is making decisions and policy so it seems. I fear that we as a country are doomed and quite possibly are beyond repairing if the continued course of action/inaction is followed. Your input is appreciated and valued. Thank you
Nolan Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Quite an interesting perspective Carolyn I had not looked at it that way until now. Sad that history is repeating itself. So much for human evolution. Thank you for your input
Devonshire Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 1:31 PM
This is a very sad state of affairs, Eric. When engaged in war, it is difficult to make judgment calls about what is right and what is wrong. For some reason, I'm having flashbacks to the way our Vietnam vets were treated for fighting in an undeclared war that the American people did not support. The ballad of Lt. Willliam Calley is replaying in my head.
Nolan Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 12:13 PM
I agree Janette thanks for your input.
Nolan Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Frank, perhaps you should read the story again. It has to do with the SEALS being charged with a crime for doing a job they were trained for. To answer your question, no I am not naive quite the contrary, but thanks for your rant.
Fisher Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 9:49 AM
This is an absolute travesty of justice. These men signed up to serve their country with no thought or regard for their own safety and this is the way they are being repaid? I'm with James on this and think that rather than capture they should get rid and move on to the next. It would not only save money on keeping them locked up and not having the expense of a trial but would also negate the need for places to lock them up in in the first place. The world has gone insane!!! Excellent blog Eric..regards Janette
Nolan Avatar
November 25, 2009 at 6:44 AM
I agree Linda your right the world is upside down and completely out of balance. Seems like a runaway freight train with Daffy Duck asleep at the switch. Thank you for input its most appreciated.
Nolan Avatar
November 24, 2009 at 5:46 PM
No need for apologies Tim, I served myself and have a great love and respect for all of our military. I have a particular interest in the SEALS and am a fan of Richard Marcinko, a.k.a The Sharkman of the Delta and author of "The Rogue Warrior" as well as many others. I am just beside myself with anger on this story. It makes no sense and disrespects all of our brothers and sisters who wear the uniform. Thank you for your input.
Ryerson Avatar
November 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Forgive my rambling but I had to add another comment.... The forerunners of the Navy SEALS were actually the very first to go in at Omaha Beach during the invasion of Normandy (WWII) Then called UDT (Under-water Demolition Teams) they were trained to clear all obstacles for the landing troops...Tim
Ryerson Avatar
November 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Amen to THAT comment, Eric!...This story is absolutely sickening to me... I am a proud U.S. Navy vet and had the opportunity to make very good friends with a SEAL in the Vietnam years...they are NOT just trained killers! They are extremely well educated and have very kind hearts and only wish to serve. There was a documentary I watched a few years back about SEAL training (boot) camp. ANY member of the armed services can apply (officers and enlisted)...not just Naval personnel...some were on the 2nd try after not making it through the first time. These people also are trained to serve as ambassadors, translators, educators, you name it...True American heroes too be sure! - Tim
Nolan Avatar
November 24, 2009 at 1:46 PM
I am absolutely horrified at this story, being once in the military myself I am ill at the thought of these men even being tried. I am truly angry at the powers that be are allowing this to happen. I wonder if were fighting the wrong enemy. Thank you for your input.

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