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Blog Posted by Team Poetrysoup: 7/28/2025 3:37:00 PM

AI is here to stay and will become an integral part of everyday work and living. So, the question for PoetrySoup is, where do we go from here? How do we address AI poems?

Our Potential AI Solution

We are considering incorporating AI detection on the poem submission page. However, we've encountered a technical and programming issue. We are researching a solution.

If we can implement AI detection on the poem submission page, poems written by AI will be flagged accordingly, but will still be allowed. 

We are not policing AI at the moment. Why not? AI detection tools are NOT ACCURATE, no matter which tool you use. What's interesting is that this post, which was written without the use of AI, was flagged by the tool we use as 50% AI-generated content. LOL. Anyway, AI Detection is a losing battle that would require more resources than we have. For contests, we leave it up to the contest sponsor to determine how AI poems are handled. 

Yes, AI is here to stay! Potentially, to our detriment. 



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Date: 7/29/2025 6:37:00 AM
If it is about keeping the integrity of the contests in tact, then run contests which are not easily actioned by AI. But having said that, the sponsors also need to word or present the material in such a manner that contestants can't just copy and paste it to an AI prompt - unless they don't mind AI poetry. Hence, if AI has its own category (as I suggested below), it should level the playing field. Let the best person win - AI would never replace poets as it is built to solve problems fast. This is a laid-back site and none of us are competing for a Poet Laurette.
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 8:10:00 AM
Mmmm thinking .. If they have an equal chance as human poets, then there would be no incentive to hide the fact (as is now the case). Designing contests which are not easily emulated by AI (see my current one for an example), then AI users don't stand much of a chance against human poets - not without a hands on adjustment to the AI poems. They might as well write the poem from scratch. AI excel in haiku, senryu, Limericks, Pantoom, Villanelle, and their all time favourite: sonnets.
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Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/29/2025 7:42:00 AM
The problem with your solution is that you assume the poet will be honest in identifying their poem as AI-generated. Even so, we could ask the poet at submission time if AI was used to assist in writing the poem.
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Richard D Seal
Date: 7/29/2025 7:27:00 AM
I hear what you're saying Suz, but it's like saying, you go and play in your corner and we'll play in ours, they just won't do it, they'll just hijack the human written contests like are now.
Date: 7/29/2025 5:44:00 AM
Like or not, Our dear Tom is right, (even if the language and offered solution can seem somewhat outlandish) in bringing the attention to the contests. The focus now should be on how to keep them going and retain their integrity.
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Date: 7/29/2025 5:27:00 AM
Poets who write 100% human written poetry are not going to want their poems flagged as AI, Those that use AI and are challenged will say the detectors have it wrong, so either way this proposed solution will not work.
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Date: 7/29/2025 3:20:00 AM
1.IS AN AI POEM YOUR OWN WORK? only to the extent you created instructions on what you required of the particular AI 2.DO YOU HAVE COMPLETE COPYRIGHT TO THE AI POEM? not yet legally resolved so TBC.. CONCLUSION :PS(til 2 resolved(if ever) leave everything 'as is '& leave contest sponsors to continue to 'judge 'poems entered in their contests& place or n/a ie Let the 'market' decide! Just saying
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 3:31:00 AM
Brian, there may be AI collaboration which seems to be tolerated in most art circles. A bit like you drafting your house plans and the architects translating it into proper form. But push button users don't understand the ins and outs of poetic forms and can't oversee the mass produced AI slop - just cut and paste. And that is the rub.
Date: 7/28/2025 10:23:00 PM
All this cloak and dagger stuff is unnecessary. Please add "AI-generated" to the poem forms list and be done with it. Each person visiting this site (nearly half a million a month) knows what THEY like. As for sponsors: They could choose to run contests per poetic form or state "Any". As all judging is subjective anyway, it is up to them whether they like or dislike a poem - NO reason is ever required to be given why a poem is rejected in a contest. As I have said many moons ago: If you want to beat AI, you need to up your game and become a better poet than it (especially as there are programmes that write convincing evocative poetry). Putting AI detectors in place might cause more harm than good ... A bit ironic as it is outsourcing one's brain to chase down those that outsource their thinking.
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 5:05:00 AM
Gary, Taking your updated comment into consideration: The mechanics of AI detectors don’t work that way. Most detection tools evaluate patterns in syntax, rhythm, lexical choices, and probabilities based on models trained with known examples of AI-generated text. They don’t go out scavenging the internet for matches like some rogue detective. They assess likelihood, not plagiarism. If a detector flags a poem as "likely AI," it's generally because it exhibits traits common to machine-generated language—predictable phrasing, low entropy, sometimes a lack of idiosyncratic voice—not because it matches a piece tucked away on a poetry site.
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Gary Radice
Date: 7/29/2025 4:28:00 AM
Suzette, I've reworded a sentence of mine below in my comment to read how I originally wanted it to read: "Who's to say AI hasn't scanned our published poems here at PS already and that the reason some of our work is showing AI? Cheers - Gary
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/29/2025 3:59:00 AM
Oh, my Suzette Prime poems would likely scan as AI content - even those written in 2012! It is just the way I phrase it (My comment now updated in like with your, Gary) :)
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Gary Radice
Date: 7/29/2025 12:22:00 AM
I agree with this. A separate AI section. I don't trust the AI detectors - I wish I did. We all want the perfect detectors but they don't exist...yet. Who's to say AI hasn't scanned our published poems here at PS already and that the reason some of our work is showing AI? Cheers - Gary
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/28/2025 10:34:00 PM
Following on from my above suggestion: Where poets have indicated 'AI-generated', they could flag their own poem to invite assistance and suggestions to improve the poem. I have found that a number of contest entries are attempting forms for the first time, and instead of rejecting those poems outright, we could all give a hand as to how to improve their poem (not just the sponsor). By extension, using our own brain to detect and improve on AI poetry, would enhance the poetry and form awareness of the sponsors. How about it, folks? Let us get the vibe back of Soup.
Date: 7/28/2025 4:50:00 PM
Lawyers are writing briefs using AI. Students are writing their theses using AI. Search engines are copying wrong AI-written content to create new wrong AI search results. It's a crazy world.
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Eileen Manassian
Date: 7/28/2025 11:00:00 PM
In the world of academia, there are consequences for this.... if caught, that is. Granted that is becoming increasingly difficult, but it isn't ACCEPTED. That's the point! We shouldn't just say... this is happening, let's accept it. In no reputable institution will awards be given for AI generated music score, lyrics, literature, or theses, as you mentioned, TPS Let's not go with flow of making human creativity obsolete by falling back on, "well, everybody is doing it!" AI definitely has its place... it's not in poetry.
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Keith D Trestrail
Date: 7/28/2025 7:44:00 PM
I’m still fuming at the abomination that was the advent of MTV. Suddenly artists were more concerned with crude lip syncing fantasy sequence videos than their music, and the music suffered. Video truly did kill the radio star and AI will kill critical thought and human inspiration. I need a DeLorean!
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Brandy Nicole
Date: 7/28/2025 6:02:00 PM
Soon, humans will forget how to do simple things. Or, just decide they don't want to. Sad, indeed.
Date: 7/28/2025 4:47:00 PM
I think soupers need to realize that we are in the first trimester of this AI pregnancy. There are no solutions to AI detection. We just have to weather the storm and see what happens in the coming future.
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Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/29/2025 5:00:00 AM
@Tania, we don’t know what we are going to do. Currently, we do not allow AI poetry. However, there’s no effective way to police it, so we are not policing it.
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Tania Kitchin
Date: 7/29/2025 3:17:00 AM
Does this mean that you will be allowing AI generated poems on the site? I know it is listed on the site rules that it is not allowed.
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Connie Pachecho
Date: 7/29/2025 1:07:00 AM
I noticed that in PS terms of conditions #8-it states that AI poems are prohibited. Yet in today's blog, the impending solution is to flag AI poems and now allow them to surface (paragraph #2). I'm sorry, but I disagree with this solution. I would rather reside in a community that preserves the integrity of poetry instead being neighbors with poet interlopers.
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Connie Pachecho
Date: 7/28/2025 7:20:00 PM
Six months from now, one can hope that the seeds planted bring blossoms, or, as Rob says, the cancer goes into remission. Till then, I can only hold my breath and look out the window of the good old days.
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Keith D Trestrail
Date: 7/28/2025 7:19:00 PM
Abort abort! The mission that is!
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Brandy Nicole
Date: 7/28/2025 6:03:00 PM
Yes Rob, that analogy is a better one.
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Rob Carmack
Date: 7/28/2025 5:30:00 PM
A better analogy would be cancer.
Date: 7/28/2025 4:26:00 PM
We learnt from Andreas experience yesterday that 100% human written poems are being flagged as AI. A lot of folk are not going to be happy when theirs are.
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Date: 7/28/2025 4:08:00 PM
I know you don't want to hear this but I'll bring it up again for what it's worth. Eliminate peer sponsored contests and you reduce the AI problem and many others associated with the contests. Why not consider sponsoring one contest per month to be judged by yourselves or a panel of your choice? You might be surprised how much angst you could prevent by following this simple suggestion.
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Richard D Seal
Date: 7/28/2025 4:58:00 PM
The contests were never going to go away Tommy, we have to find a way of making it work, accept this and get the deep thought process going.
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Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:57:00 PM
Ahhh I see. Okay I'm done. G'night
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Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/28/2025 4:52:00 PM
It has absolutely nothing to do with lifetime members. Don't make up stuff in your head. That always gets you in PoetrySoup trouble, Tom.
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Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:49:00 PM
Because you want to appease your long termers with lifetime memberships. I get it. Good luck
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Team Poetrysoup
Date: 7/28/2025 4:45:00 PM
No, poet-sponsored contests will never go away.
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Rob Carmack
Date: 7/28/2025 4:37:00 PM
Tommy, you just made AI 'happy' with this statement. This is similar to giving up rights to feel safe, excessive gun control laws, etc. I don't agree with eliminating peer contests, but it would be nice if the admin would do a contest with a panel.
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Tom Woody
Date: 7/28/2025 4:10:00 PM
PS. I understand you don't want to upset some of your long term subscribers. But change is inevitable. Sometimes you have to be willing to take the hit in order to move forward

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