Cyndi Macmillan
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Cyndi MacMillan lives in a small town in Ontario that is home to North America’s largest working waterwheel. Her writing has appeared in notable Canadian literary journals and local newspapers. 

A Cruel Light is her debut gothic mystery (4/4/2023). She has been a Jill-of-all-trades, but for as long as she can remember, she has dreamt of being a novelist.  Hard work and the wonderful team at Crooked Lane Books have made that dream a reality.  Please note that her husband and daughter kindly keep her coffee mug filled when she is wrestling with a suspenseful chapter.   During a pandemic lockdown, the family adopted a rescue cat who chirps. 

When not writing, Cyndi enjoys reading Gothics, scrapbooking, and losing horribly at board games.  Works-in-progress include the second (and third) Annora Garde Mystery, a Canadian noir series, and a standalone horror mystery, so more often than not, Cyndi is writing.  She is a member of Crime Writers of Canada.

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THE POETRY PUB: SMORGASBORD

Blog Posted by Cyndi Macmillan: 5/26/2017 9:14:00 PM

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Date: 5/29/2017 11:31:00 AM
Oh this time I am finding it a bit difficult about which my favourite is...I loved 'The Still River Of Horse'-I didn't think I would from the title,but I did.I loved the last one so much...it speaks to me..Oh what lies beneath that polished surface reflecting in the mirror...when one digs deep between the lines..and digs deeper into life. All of them have something I liked. I think I read about the caterpillar in a jar somewhere..and couldnt help myself remembering the previous blog about caterpillars :).In a jar it will be safe..Lol :).
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 6/4/2017 12:55:00 PM
I am so glad you have left YOUR poetry in Soup. Soup is empty without its lady-lights, and its gentleman-rogue. I'm regretting listening to him. I should have put up the biggest stink in the history of Soup. Respect his request or go Braveheart to the max? Which was right? Love you...xoxoxo
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Charmaine Chircop
Date: 5/29/2017 11:33:00 AM
Love the -La Luna one .Who wouldnt? :)
Date: 5/27/2017 4:56:00 PM
Hey guys, I should say that Winter 30 is from a book of poetry by Patrick Lane called WINTER And La Luna Asoma is one of many poems in James Deahl's book of poetry entitled "When Rivers Speak." I also goofed. The Luna poem is a translation (thank you, Ruben!!) it does not say its a translation poem ON the page... but it does say in the table of contents that it is one of eight translations in his book. OOPSY!
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Date: 5/27/2017 2:36:00 PM
I do like La Luna Cyndi but the level of ambiguity is too strong (for me). I like Little Villain but I dislike the "too creative" 3 line presentation spoils it. Not real keen on the Horse poem. My two favorites are Winter 30, just enough ambiguity to leave one to their own dream; I was envisioning him like the "Bird Girl" in Bonaventure Cemetery (Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil) yet my mind raced elsewhere as well--still not to settle. But, my favorite was A Fine Line (a double entendre) Like peering through a glass at bones from the past--what were their true expressions, were they like ours for similar experiences and what was their "end" without a mirror to advertise their demise.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 5:39:00 PM
:) Something for almost everyone. I liked aspects of them all, but I get how several Soupers have picked the "A Fine Line," because many of us have looked into that mirror and felt exactly what he is describing. We tend to enjoy something we can personally relate to.
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Craig Cornish
Date: 5/27/2017 3:27:00 PM
Sorry for being late to the pub! But, better............
Date: 5/27/2017 10:02:00 AM
Cyndi,Little Villain is a good poem,spoiled by trying to fit it into a tercet 'form ' to which the content is totally unsuited. Like trying to wriggle into an off the peg suit instead of a made to measure.
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Kim Rodrigues
Date: 6/6/2017 12:12:00 PM
I see what you are saying, Brian. It works better as free verse with no limitations.
Date: 5/27/2017 9:47:00 AM
When you do things for effect Cyndi,in free verse. ie where you want the readers mind to rest, then you need the reader needs some guide in that regard otherwise it is the poem becomes a puzzle to solve.An offput to say the least
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 5:25:00 PM
Gotta fly.. will be back later to chat about Luna with Ruben. I look forward to visiting your blog. We have a special church function tomorrow. Such a busy weekend!
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 5:24:00 PM
If I rearranged the line breaks the poem may feel less unsettling, less eerie but be more "eye friendly" and more 'grounded' but the theme is meant to disturb. The formation matches the theme.
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Date: 5/27/2017 5:23:00 PM
The reader may not understand why a poem can make him feel pulled and tugged at... but that is what a line break/stanza break does. It plays with connotation and EXPECTATION... throws us off balance, hits the heart!
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Date: 5/27/2017 5:21:00 PM
Again, the poet does this again for that wince factor. The first word of any line can hit us hard, same goes for the last word of a line. Lets look: conceiving. She named him John of the smallest// coffin. After him, she stopped completely. By dividing smallest and coffin, coffin has more weight, makes us FEEL it harder. It stands OUT.
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Date: 5/27/2017 5:05:00 PM
It is like an author who finishes a chapter with a feeling of suspense. I'm not saying each line should end with that type of sharp shift-- which startles the reader, makes them uncertain, ill at ease.
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Date: 5/27/2017 5:03:00 PM
Let's look at this line: I put caterpillars in pickle jars and poked ///no holes. Now, the reader may be expecting poked holes. All children poke holes in jars to let the insect LIVE. The reader leaves the end of that line and falls not just into another line, but into another stanza... the pause is elongated.. its for that small horror we feel when we realize that NO proceed hole.
Date: 5/27/2017 9:38:00 AM
Yes Cyndi I also enjoy much Abstract art,which of course communicate visually.Published Poetry and free verse in particular has to communicate otherwise it is pointless.Free verse as these examples show can run into difficulty in this regard and the reader can so easily stop and turn off.I had a note that this whole topic needs a separate blog.WHY (and perhaps how)DOES FREE VERSE WORK .There are after all 'rules' that need to be followed to make it intelligible ,'even if the net is down'
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Date: 5/27/2017 4:59:00 PM
I'd love to do another blog... I'd like to take that poem and restructure it into different breaks, to show cause and effect. The breaks here are very very purposeful, but the reader doesn't need to understand why the breaks are there, but only feel the effect of them... I'll show you one.
Date: 5/27/2017 9:21:00 AM
Can I reserve a seat for later? It's raining out and the pub seems like a good place to stay but yep, have to finish some other stuff first... Please save me some of that Sunday roast & dessert, if not, beware since I'm invading the kitchen :p. btw thanks for the positive mention, Cyndi-- uh-oh not sure if I can live up to the expectations on the fun quotient though, that's too kind of you. Charma, where are you?!
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Date: 5/29/2017 1:35:00 AM
Hope you had a good weekend, Cyndi! Hugs back to you :)
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 5:46:00 PM
:DD You came and I missed you. Busy day, typical Saturday rush with even more going on. Gotta fly. HUGS!
Date: 5/27/2017 9:19:00 AM
Cyndi,I am not troubled that the selections do not have a common theme,rather that the thrust(theme) of each of them is disjointed by throwaway asides that all too often are esoteric
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Date: 5/27/2017 5:32:00 AM
The Leveson offering makes a good point but again presentation spoils by inconsistent use of punctuation (making it unreadable) and inclusion of long asides that blur rather than clarify.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:16:00 AM
? Did I miss typing punctuation? I should check. Did you mean the enjambment is not consistent? I think its an introspective look -- one long aside?
Date: 5/27/2017 5:21:00 AM
Little Villain, is a good poem ,after the reminescent 'talking to myself' style of WCW, but the open form chosen does not fit that style,and therefore reads disjointed and spoils rather than enhances.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:35:00 AM
Can you elaborate on "does not fit the style?" If willing? Are we speaking about one line per breath again, or something different? Do you mean the stanza breaks, how the poem is formatted into three lined stanzas as opposed to a 'block poem' or ONE stanza? I am finding this conversation interesting!
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Date: 5/27/2017 7:21:00 AM
I don't think she in any way is styling herself after Whitman. Many poets bring the reader close into their work. She is writing towards the reader, not inwardly, which usually comes across as question after question, "why did I..." while this sounds confessional "I did THIS..."
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:19:00 AM
The line breaks are strong and exact. Gotta fly but interesting chat, Chum. Whitman?
Date: 5/27/2017 4:20:00 AM
you know my tastes, cyndi! yes, the stand-out one for me is 'little villain'; it has the feel of real experience behind it, great use of language and vivid imagery, unforgiving and unrelenting...the horse poem i like for its images and ideas; i'm not usually a fan of repeating lines, but they work well in this particular poem...i have a strange thing for ungulates at the moment! i wrote one on horses, then cows, and now a gazelle is springing around in my mind! lol...oh i like 'winter 30' too, especially the first stanza, though the poem is spoilt slightly for me by a rather predictable second stanza - would've liked to have seen a more unusual direction
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Date: 5/27/2017 12:26:00 PM
Eep, I am going box (table?) hopping here, hope you don't mind, Charlotte & Cyndi (haha even if it's your blog, sorry I'm going to be everywhere here-- taking advantage while I still can)! I found Little Villain intriguing with the touch of disturbing for me, I did enjoy how it seemed like some sort of movie playing out for me as I read it...one of the lines that really stayed with me was "her stomach unrounded". and I like how you interpret the repeating lines, Cyndi.. and yes villanelle also popped to mind as I read that.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:14:00 AM
I think the horse poem is a villanelle? I usually dislike repeating lines, like you, but the emotions in that poem sucked me in... and the repetition is like a galloping horse! So, I think this is why it works on a subliminal level, maybe? The subconscious?
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:12:00 AM
Little Villain is powerful and provocative in a way that hit me hard and deep. I liked it's harshness, brutal honesty, its unusual point of view, the path it took.
Date: 5/27/2017 12:54:00 AM
Cyndi,I admire and some. times applaud 'eclectic ' open poetics, with a 'wow,yes' factor but not those that 'wow, what?'.Disconnects can be much overdone and spoil rather than enhance
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Date: 5/27/2017 6:44:00 AM
I liked them all, very much. But its good that we can discuss what poets do NOT like about a poem as much as what they do like... it is just as valuable. Too many can not put into words what has left them unmoved or disgruntled at work. I appreciate you bringing this to the pub! :)
Date: 5/27/2017 12:34:00 AM
Smorgasbord is a good title Cyndi,for much of the poems theselves.A good example of what I mean by 'disconnect' is the third stanza of the Deahi poem.It is so esoteric and is why many folk give up on reading open poetry!( imho of course)
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 6:53:00 AM
open poetry=free verse poetry? I think it depends. Many people who enjoy art also enjoy abstract art. Some readers like poems that are muddier. I loved the orange stanza, though I wasn't sure of what exactly it meant. I was thinking that the poet mean contrast. The orange is like the sun-- and it amplifies that he is saying night (to him) is neither sweet or fulfilling. It is a melancholy place.
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Brian Strand
Date: 5/27/2017 5:06:00 AM
Chris has made a comment (above)on this ,which rather proves my point.
Date: 5/27/2017 12:23:00 AM
Yes Cyndi,I prefer Winter 30,It is more coherent,(in theme)but the last two lines are superfluous (imho) and is an example of 'a disconnect as well...and the overall format leaves much to be desired as open poetry.,where breath length is a key aspect.(The second sentence just does not work in that regard).As a poem about the realities of sin in human nature,Lanes'parable ' works ,except for the 'eighth day bit',(sin entered at the 'fall' ,in the 'garden') but we'll allow him poetic licence on that point.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 6:58:00 AM
This is one area where we differ. I often break my lines for effect, cut those lines with a purpose that has nothing to do with oral traditions. I consider the weight and significance of each word and where I'd like the mind to rest for a millisecond.
Date: 5/27/2017 12:05:00 AM
Cyndi , generally I like open poetry,(as previous pub nights comments aka Crooker and Steele and my contests (aka Frederic P) results have shown) Usually because of the imaginative imagery(being an imagist at heart)therein.But there has to be a theme.Most of these examples are disjointed ,eclectic and therefore do not flow.That maybe as the poet 'is' ,(and as many open poetics seem to be) which is valid ,but not to my taste.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/27/2017 7:07:00 AM
I get it. But I'm used to reading journals where the styles, voices, themes, subject matter, poetics, lengths, differ from poem to poem. I decided to try a "smorgasbord" on my pub. No connection between each piece. :) Down the road, I'll host a themed one, again.
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Brian Strand
Date: 5/27/2017 4:36:00 AM
I am as 'left field' as any in poetics and like to see thinking out of the box but some maybe so enigmatic asto be confusing.(I admit of course I am from a much earlier generation than most here,and much of what is now considered OK passes me by)
Date: 5/26/2017 11:29:00 PM
Much imagism Cyndi, but too much disconnect, however that imagery would make for a coherent overall open phrasis methinks .Bringing such poetry to us is one of your giftings , thanks.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/26/2017 11:46:00 PM
Disconnect... do you mean that the poem fizzled? Start strong/end weak? I felt that a bit, too. Or do you mean nothing, including the first, spoke personally to you?
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/26/2017 11:32:00 PM
oooh! Would love you to talk about the disconnect! In Winter 30 (which is the one I'd think you'd enjoy out of all of them.) Disconnect? Fill me in over the weekend sometime, maybe? I'm curious :)
Date: 5/26/2017 11:20:00 PM
I like Winter 30 but it caused me to think of a line from a poem I read awhile ago " to have been the first maggot to have crawled under Christ's skin would be enough for me" " this is what god must of felt" ..for some reason I thought of another poem..maybe the same emotional bonding
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Date: 5/26/2017 11:57:00 PM
I checked and there were only a few who used that line, none in a song or poetry... but oddly enough, I found a reference to Apollo 10 and them quoting Genesis.
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 5/26/2017 11:37:00 PM
I'll check the net on that Frederic, later... I mean about the "this is what God must have felt... I liked the intimacy of it as well. The poet is feeling both for the tiny bird and for the creator. small to HUGE.

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