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Face masks, face veils: same thing

https://youtu.be/c1gNm21YzfI When last I visited India almost a decade ago I recall riding on my brother's scooter as he drove me around town, And I saw fully veiled Muslim women half their faces veiled, masked in Niqab driving scooters, motorbikes, mopeds and motorcycles. I also recall some women also covering half their faces with their dupattas but their bodies were not covered up properly, their arms and skin exposed since they were not wearing the Islamic burka cloaks and overcoats and I remember asking about them to my brother who had answered that they were Hindus, thus not wearing the hijab gowns but still veiling their hair and half their faces like Muslims do and I had remarked wow they are not Muslims yet covering their hair and faces like us niqabiz and hijabeez but to protect from dust, dust mites and other traffic pollutants and irritants while we Muslim women veil half our faces and hair also to protect as well from the germs of lust, the virus of lewdness and leery stares. https://youtu.be/Wph36erRfZQ Well, well now in these pandemic covid 19 virus times people in many places in the world are now wearing face masks as the virus strikes and attacks https://youtu.be/H498mtMTQuQ ESP those countries where the Muslim face veils had been banned and niqabi women mistreated. https://youtu.be/M_24Vpm_kVE Now the globular ball seems to be having a masquerade ball where masks are the in thing for bare necessity and baring the full face is risky for all. I can't help saying yippee I may hum like a hippy ! For now in these masking times few will frown and look down upon our face veiling Niqab masks. https://youtu.be/ZQD9WCea6w0 Both Muslims and non Muslims will give us face veiled women a break where we can breathe free, without our masks being opposed and criticised since there are Muslims too who had turned against this fine soft shield known as Niqab. Authorities everywhere are less likely to ban and give trouble to us masked women like before because wearing a mask first protects others from the corona virus than the wearer herself. https://youtu.be/Xcr9m_WS1Vg And now even men are wearing masks, so now we have support from both genders. and less people will give us hijabees a hard time as they had been doing lately. The ninja Niqab face mask was fast disappearing even among Muslim women prior to corona but now it has become quite a global necessary item of protection and prevention of the spread of disease. https://youtu.be/JrSIzEOWumA I feel everyone ought to wear face masks for general protection from viruses, germs, bacteria, dust and environmental pollutants and irritants. https://youtu.be/snL0MZbeATU and there are helmets which motorcyclists don that veil and cover half or most of the face already all over the world so people shouldn't make a fuss at all about us niqabees and hijabees really.!!! https://youtu.be/Wp-0yg4boZ0 Medieval European women used to wear black chiffon or georgette veils and I read of that in medieval plays and dramas as well. In fact if you delve into historical literature you will find it was the medieval European non-Muslim women from the upper echelons of society, i.e the high ranking aristocratic elite women who wore head coverings and veils far more than the so called 'lower' rank women from the low social strata. https://youtu.be/91jHUD00p18 So I strongly feel all cultures ESP western societies should be more accepting of the Muslim hijab and Niqab veil masks. I totally love love my Niqab, I am as attached to it as a turtle is to its shell and couldn't part from my face veil for a million dollars and it is indeed a rare gem item of modesty even among Muslim women. So now that face masks are back, yep yup hurray what I can say is yeahh man, wow, hurrah and yay!! https://youtu.be/E2Zz_qqksFg Corona will teach the hard way that a woman in a mask and face veil can be an accomplished and awesome participant and citizen in service to society in general. I don't know of any Muslim woman who is coerced into veiling the face, I too wear the face covering veil outdoors of my own accord, by my own choice and out of my personal spiritual preference.

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Date: 12/29/2020 12:49:00 PM
I cannot see what the fuss is, Zaynap, I live in Ireland where we can wear whatever we like, if you want to cover your face go ahead, but if a girl wants to attract a male in our society, best she’s seen, no organized marriage here, the aesthetic is important part of western culture for finding partners on your own terms, who cares if we must wear a mask for disease prevention purposes, to me your argument is as pointless as wearing a white T-shirt to a heavy metal gig, people will notice but not care
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David Kavanagh
Date: 12/30/2020 4:34:00 AM
I have also written a poem about masks called ”unmasking the masquerade” nothing about religion or culture, but you might look it up sometime, if on my page cheers.
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David Kavanagh
Date: 12/30/2020 3:50:00 AM
Good stuff it’s all a matter of choice for me, but helmets we have no choice totally illegal not to wear them, get arrested over here, nice chatting to you Zaynap cheers David
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 12/30/2020 3:10:00 AM
Hi again, yeah it's ok not to wear both niqabs and masks but I and many Muslim women and now even non Muslims find the masks very protective whether Muslims for protective reasons and non Muslims other protective reasons, both for different types of protections. Masks are very good at prevention of virus spread. Research does tell that. It has made our niqab masks easier and popular as well and gained it familiarity that we needed, and it looks super similar to masks. So cultural and health/ protective reasons are combined in a face veil nowadays and even before if you look at helmets etc.
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Date: 12/30/2020 12:09:00 AM
Thanks for the prompt reply Zaynap, but honestly it’s ok not to wear the masks outside, once we stay socially distance, it’s not law, so life is pretty normal apart from indoor gatherings, it’s irrelevant weather the veils came from west or east like gunpowder from china It’s what we do now is important to me, that’s the point I’m making it’s a pointless argument because nobody in my country really cares This is purely a cultural matter, cheers David
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 12/29/2020 10:23:00 PM
Cont/..Because unveiled pics and videos of girls are always shown to prospective interested matches, the aesthetic part is confirmed and muslim men get to marry women of their choice and beauty. Mothers and sisters also help to select and act matchmaker in the case of veiled women so there really is no problem. And there is more to a woman than just her facial beauty, .
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 12/29/2020 10:18:00 PM
Hi, thanks for your thoughts on this, well majority muslim women don't cover their faces, face veiling spread from westerners to easterners if you read the data i posted in comments sections scroll farther below plz. And you mean to say for the time being as it has been months people are wearing masks, so it is impossible to find people attractive enough to marry them just because they are wearing masks, aren't peoples in china where masks are worn more of the time finding each other attractive despite the masks? I mean masks and niqabs same thing can always be pulled down if a man is really interested and the girl is too. But not pulled down for playboys and fickle womanisers no.
Date: 8/30/2020 2:56:00 AM
Very interesting and informative, Zaynab. I believe that both men and women should be free to wear whatever they want, as long as it is not offensive. Regards // paul
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 8/31/2020 3:38:00 AM
Yes you are so right and fair to say that all should be free to wear whatever as long it is not harmful or offensive to themselves or others. Thanks for your broadminded comment supporting us women.
Date: 8/29/2020 9:20:00 AM
Thank you for enlightening us, and for commenting on my poem.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 8/31/2020 3:37:00 AM
Thanks so much!
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 8/31/2020 3:35:00 AM
Thanks so much!
Date: 8/29/2020 1:15:00 AM
Every Religion has its own ways that we should abide with. The Greeks dress in black for a year when they lose a lost one and when my Dad was diagnosed with cancer I went into black for a year as a sacrifice for him to get better. He lived almost two years longer. Wonderful write, Hugs and blessings, Jennifer.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 8/31/2020 3:35:00 AM
Aw that was a heartwarming story you tell, glad to know you dressed in black and your dad lived longer. Yes everyone should be allowed to dress in a way there religion demands it. Take care and warm thanks.
Date: 6/30/2020 11:10:00 PM
Hi, Any new readers plz plz do read the info data that I have copy posted in the comments section far further down below, scroll down, as it couldn't fit in prose section , and now you can read the related data in the short story write section as well as I have just uploaded it there, or you won't know the full facts and won't understand what I'm talking about as fully. Warm thanks and take care
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Date: 6/30/2020 8:35:00 AM
Well, if a person feels that they must cover their body because of their religion it is their privilege. I had a pastor to tell me once that if a man was upset about the way a woman dressed it meant that he was full of lust and it was his problem and not hers. It is sad that this virus has put our lives on hold and for some it means financial ruin. I hope that there is soon a vaccination to help with the ill. Thanks for the visit to my page. Sara
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Date: 6/30/2020 11:08:00 PM
I like the way you put it positively, as a privilege, both eastern and western cultures had women veiling in the past and they still cover their faces when wearing motorcycle helmets, and masks in labs and hospitals yeah. A man has no right to be upset about a woman's dressing, the woman should dress in a decent way nevertheless, her choice. Yeah i do wish the virus ends and a cure is found. Warm thanks for thoughts, Take care dear .
Date: 6/28/2020 9:44:00 AM
Interesting write, thanks for sharing!
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/30/2020 11:00:00 PM
I'm glad it's interesting enough. Thanks so much for comment! Best wishes ,
Date: 6/27/2020 2:24:00 PM
I do believe that we should be accepting of the cultural ways of others and the message of peace and love is always welcome! A lovely poem!!!
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/28/2020 2:06:00 AM
Oh yes peace and love is of utmost importance. Thanks soo much for your bright broad minded comment! Best wishes, stay safe!
Date: 6/27/2020 12:38:00 PM
As a Canadian we are very multi cultural and whether you wear a mask or do not wear a mask is up to you. Lots of work went into this prose but still comes down to you and you only on your choices. Have a nice day. phyl
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/28/2020 2:04:00 AM
Hi dear poet, no wonder a lot of people in the world admire Canadians and their charismatic current leader. Everyone should respect choices when they don't go against the law of the country. Warmest thanks for your open-minded thoughtful words. Take care!
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Date: 6/28/2020 2:04:00 AM
Hi dear poet, no wonder a lot of people in the world admire Canadians and their charismatic current leader. Everyone should respect choices when they don't go against the law of the country. Warmest thanks for your open-minded thoughtful words. Take care!
Date: 6/26/2020 10:36:00 PM
Hi, Any new readers plz plz do read the info data that I have copy posted in the comments section far further down below, scroll down, as it couldn't fit in prose section , and now you can read the related data in the short story write section as well as I have just uploaded it there, or you won't know the full facts and won't understand what I'm talking about as fully. Warm thanks and take care
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Date: 6/25/2020 2:48:00 AM
Any new readers plz plz do read the info data that I have copy posted in the comments section far further down below, scroll down, as it couldn't fit in prose section , or you won't know the full facts and won't understand what I'm talking about as fully. Warm thanks and take care
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Date: 6/24/2020 10:26:00 PM
Your commentaries on the history of masks, what wearing them implies, and how people respond to them is very descriptive and interesting. Janice
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 10:56:00 PM
Hi Janice, yeah the commentaries that I have copy pasted in comments section are factual historical accounts verified in Wikipedia. Westerners and Easterners had a shared veiling historical background which ought to make them softer , kinder and more accepting of all veiling . Warmest thanks for your nice open minded comment.
Date: 6/24/2020 10:19:00 PM
God is able. Thank you for commenting on my poem.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 10:50:00 PM
Yes dear poetess God is able always, He is able to show us ways of unity, how we are all same and similar in ways as all Adam's children and the similar rules He sent down in series of revelations. Warm thanks, take care.
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Date: 6/24/2020 10:50:00 PM
Yes dear poetess God is able always, He is able to show us ways of unity, how we are all same and similar in ways as all Adam's children and the similar rules He sent down in series of revelations. Warm thanks, take care.
Date: 6/24/2020 7:24:00 AM
Any new readers plz plz do read the info data that I have copy posted in the comments section far further down below, scroll down, as it couldn't fit in prose section , or you won't know the full facts and won't understand what I'm talking about as fully. Warm thanks and take care.
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Date: 6/24/2020 3:53:00 AM
I am sorry if you've felt condemned for wearing your chosen clothing. Your perceived protection from 'germs of lust' is a feeling. Amongst a set of folk whose passion springs from imagination, bedspreads and bare breasts are interchangeable.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 4:07:00 AM
I've felt condemned primarily only by you and those govts who ban it. And its not just a feeling, it is a provable fact that women who are veiled properly and perfectly do not invite lust and leering the way a sexy woman in a bikini does. And I don't know how passion can spring from bedspreads alone unless a couple is springing on it lol. And passion is not bad, being lusted after by strangers is bad and can be dangerous. Of course passions and unwanted lust can spring in strangers from bare breasts . I don't see any point that you tried to make.
Date: 6/24/2020 1:02:00 AM
Any new readers plz plz do read the info data that I have posted in the comments section far below or you won't know the full facts and won't understand what I'm talking about as fully. Warm thanks and take care.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 3:59:00 AM
Jasmine, i feel we still have to garner acceptance of our modest clothing whether or not it will be futile to do so. A shared cultural n religious veiling background and history is to show unity of humans in the face of those who seek disunity and disparity only. Of course thats the one great wise thing u said that God sees beneath clothes but the God if both bible and Holy Quran asks women to cover up.
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Sigrid Ermine
Date: 6/24/2020 3:32:00 AM
I reckon God sees beneath our clothes. Each go about treating each well.
Date: 6/24/2020 12:02:00 AM
Hello zaynab … a very interesting verse indeed for someone like myself who is ignorant of many with different cultural beliefs. Your verse and comments gave me a much better understanding - thank you zaynab - Lindsay
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 12:59:00 AM
My warmest thanks Lindsay for your broadminded and fair views on this prose which means a lot to us. And yes the major data and info relating to my prose is what I have copy pasted below in the comments section so I do hope everyone reads all my comments far below or my prose may not be as clear enough. Take care, warm wishes,
Date: 6/23/2020 10:48:00 PM
Thanks for the interesting prose and enlightening me on the subject of masks. Everyone should be allowed to dress as they want as long as not breaking any laws in our free country, and even if people do not agree, they should be respectful. In a pandemic the reasons are completely different, of course. Blessings to you, S. zaynab. Rhonda xx
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Date: 6/24/2020 12:31:00 AM
Hi morn dear Rhonda, my warmest thanks for your comment. I believe the countries I have lived in and other Muslim countries are free countries too where you can dress as you want as long as you don't break the laws. Yes people should be respectful of difference. The reasons for covering the face in the Pandemic are both different and similar in ways. Similar in that masks both the Niqab and clinical mask are meant for protection and prevention, even if for different things. So do take care, warm wishes,
Date: 6/23/2020 9:50:00 PM
Asserting one's ability to get dressed every day one lives is an exercise in futility. Wear what is comfortable. If I state my liberation as an upholding virtue compared with traditions of alternate persuasions, I risk offending people.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/24/2020 12:17:00 AM
There is no inequity at all dear in what I say and uphold though. Asserting one's ability to get dressed, be dressed decently is not an exercise in futility, your opinions are very subjective. If you upload writing that flaunts your enjoyment in flaunting your physical assets , that's terrific yes, men would really love it, it would please and pleasure them and they want it. I'm not going to state my subjective opinion to say that that is not allowed . Upholding yours doesn't necessarily offend others, everyone can state their views. BUT NO ONE SHOULD CONDEMN OR DISALLOW A USEFUL HARMLESS BENEFICIAL THING AS HIJAB NIQAB VEILS.
Date: 6/23/2020 9:25:00 PM
Disapproval of standard western costume can be read in Zaynab's responses.
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Date: 6/24/2020 12:07:00 AM
The disparity comes from culture yet I have seen western women veil their faces partially or completely in motorcycle helmets and I repeat if you read the data, historically the disparity wasn't there between eastern and western veiling, it actually spread from Western culture to Eastern. Chastity and decency is best displayed by veiling all parts of a woman that can be leered at yes, that's our view and belief. THATS NOT SUPPRESION, THATS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION AND PROTECTION. Any woman is free to dress as she pleases but nudists can't be allowed everywhere of course because nudism is just too extremist and unreasonable. I believe our disapproval of western costume is with reason and is rational but your disapproval of modest veiling is unreasonable because you can't justify banning it , rationally.
Date: 6/23/2020 7:11:00 PM
Promoting western acceptance of Muslim womens' coverings during Covid 19 is a tad opportunistic.! Mask wearing is a preventative measure for a prevalent disease.
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Date: 6/23/2020 11:31:00 PM
Yes my theme and data is there to promote universal and even western acceptance of the veiling since if you read the data in the comment section, veiling spread from western culture to eastern in history as God sent the same injunctions to veil to both cultures. And mask wearing for covid 19 is very similar in the covering so I referenced to that yes. If clinical masks stems from fear it's a reasonable fear and good to act upon it with masks. SO IN NO WAY SHOULD MY ASKING FOR SUPPORT OF THE SIMILAR ISLAMIC VEIL IS OFFENSIVE OR INACCURATE IN THE LEAST UNLESS YOU COME with a prejudiced, unfair , unreasonable and biased mindset. The Niqab and mask is very similar so both should be allowed and never discouraged. We Muslim women looking for every chance to vouch for support of the veil shows how much we love it , that's it.
Date: 6/23/2020 5:09:00 PM
Hello, S. zaynab. Freedom and power to individual choice. Unfortunately, the burka depicts opposite. Commonly it's correlated with extreme male domination regeimes.Limits placed upon the niqab wearer, from around age ten for girls, are obvious. The smothered shuffle of burka wearers depicts great restriction. I suspect that a morose outlook partners the wearing of this garment. I suggest sadness is the intended effect, for smiles and laughter are masked and suppressed.
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/23/2020 11:13:00 PM
Cont/.. The veil DOES NOT EVEN SUPPRESS OR MASK SMILES AND LAUGHTER DEAR, for the smile can be seen in the eyes and laughter can be heard unless the onlooker is blind or deaf. So plz don't judge our veiling so blindly with cruel biases. Sadness is what I see in the eyes of western women whose men are visually comparing waist girths, busts and butts all out in the open , open to such harsh scrutiny and jilting them upon such comparisons. You know what I'm talking about.
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Date: 6/23/2020 11:09:00 PM
Cont/... I STRONGLY believe that dressing in a way that is seductive and attractive and pleasing to men is more the male domination. BURKA IS NOT PLEASING TO MEN. IT DOES NOT PLEASURE MEN AS A BIKINI DOES. There are no limits placed on Muslim girls except to protect them from grooming and molestation by men. The smothered shuffle is in your mind only dear since we Muslim women are fighting for our right to wear it. I think you are just trying to provoke us veiled women that's all. The morose outlook partners those who have to dress in a way that lets men size them up and reject them for some cellulite and flab. SADNESS IS NOT THE INTENDED EFFECT OF HIJAB, HOW WRONG IF YOU TO SAY THAT!!
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S.zaynab Kamoonpuri
Date: 6/23/2020 11:07:00 PM
Morn jasmine . Yes freedom and power to individual choice! THE BURKA IS INDEED THE FREEDOM AND POWER OF INDIVIDUAL CHOICE AND IT IS GROSSLY WRONG FACTUALLY TO SAY IT DEPICTS THE OPPOSITE!! IT IS NOT CORRELATED WITH MALE DOMINATION AT ALL, THERE ARE MALE MUSLIM IMAMS AND MALE PREACHERS WHO SPEAK AGAINST VEILING OF FACE AND WE WOMEN HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT TO WEAR it. No one is forcing Muslim women to veil the face.
Date: 6/23/2020 5:04:00 PM
Isn't it ironic? Women should be free to wear whatever they want and should not be judged...Sadly there are some ignorant fools in Thai world .. Great poem with lots of info
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Date: 6/23/2020 11:03:00 PM
Hi good morn dear silent-one, thanks soo much for your view that supports women . It is ironic yes to impose immodest wear on women whose belief inspires them to dress modestly and veil, in the name of freedom. Ok, Best wishes and stay safe always!
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Date: 6/23/2020 11:02:00 PM
Hi good morn dear silent-one, thanks soo much for your view that supports women . It is ironic yes to impose immodest wear on women whose belief inspires them to dress modestly and veil, in the name of freedom. Ok, Best wishes and stay safe always!
Date: 6/23/2020 4:43:00 PM
My you have spent a lot of time and effort on your prose and on the information that you have given us. I would never make anyone feel uncomfortable who is wearing a veil so we each have different customs and everyone needs to be respected for their beliefs. Here in Hawaii we have very little cases of coronavirus. It is mandatory that we wear them when we go out into stores or anywhere. Because it is very warm and humid here it is difficult to keep the mask on all day. I have asthma so I just go in the store buy what I need and then go home where I can breathe safely.I was aware of a lot of the information you have given but some of the things I did not know so I appreciate your long post. Have a wonderful day. Thank you. Blessings
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Date: 6/23/2020 10:45:00 PM
Good morning connie, Oh yes I have indeed spent a lot of time and effort in getting the relevant data and material that supports veiling from different perspectives. I'm glad you are broad minded so you won't try to make veiled people feel uncomfortable. It's probably due to masks that Hawaii has little cases of covid 19, same here where I live. Yeah masks should be only for the outdoors for few hours, during lockdown people must not be out all day, though we Muslim women can be out and about in niqab in real hot weather without any problems because they design the Niqab veil mask in a way that allows freer breathing than surgical masks. I'm asthmatic but my Niqab mask doesn't pose a problem much unless I'm very breathless then even without a mask I get shortness of breaths. So take care, warmest thanks,
Date: 6/23/2020 3:17:00 PM
I enjoyed reading your prose. So many interesting things happening in 2020. No one is safe in their jobs, everything out in the open except faces :)
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Date: 6/23/2020 3:37:00 PM
Yeah gosh interesting and scary things going on.! I do hope you read the info and articles in the comment section as all that data couldn't fit in the prose section itself. Warm thanks, take care, stay safe!
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