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Deborah Guzzi writes full time. Her third book, The Hurricane is available through Prolific Press. https://prolificpress.com/bookstore/prolific-books-c-12/the-hurricane-by-deborah-guzzi-p-151.html Her poetry appears in Allegro, Artificium, Shooter, & The Foxglove Journal in the UK, Subterranean Blue, Existere, The Ekphrastic Review, Scarlet Leaf Review & Subterranean Blue Poetry, Canada - Tincture, Australia - mgv2>publishing, France Cha: Asian Review, China - Vine Leaves Literary Journal, Australia - The Scarlet Leaf Review - Greece, Ribbons, pioneertown, Sounding Review, Bacopa Literary Review, The Aurorean, Liquid Imagination, The Tishman Review, Page & Spine & others in the USA.

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What the Heck Do I Call This?

Blog Posted by Debbie Guzzi: 10/3/2012 5:35:00 PM

I have thought for a long time it might be helpfull to have a short talk on
WHAT TO LABEL MY POEM below is a poem labeled "I Don't Know". I have left here a brief comment to help her. This could be labeled Verse or Rhyme

Almost Guilty

by Sharon Van Buskirk

Occasionally I cry,

Overwhelming joy,

Sadness is deprived

Seems Surreal

I found the real deal,

I feel almost guilty

Like it's a steal

Must have been a saint in a past life,

I'll soon be lucky enough to be his wife

{surreal/deal/steal/ & life/wife}

The LARGEST and ALL INCLUSIVE FORM CATEGORIES ARE

VERSE

*pretty much anything we put up here can be correctly labeled as verse.

all verse eastern verse forms can be put here too

haiki, senryu, tanka etc

[if you are unsure whether or not they are correct content wise stick them here]

FREE VERSE

The poem below would come under Free Verse.

Fanning the Sky
by Cynthia Alvez

palms dance like feathers
fanning the lilac-gold sky
winds weave fantacies

RHYME

under Rhyme we have SO many forms,

any form with an end rhyme pattern can still be labeled Rhyme

[Ballad/Ballade/Chany Royal/Chastuska/Clerihew/Couplet/Cowboy/Crown Sonnet

Curtal Sonnet/Dizain/Enclosed Rhyme/Ghazal/Heroic Couplet/Italian Sonnet/Kyrielle/Limerick/Monorhyme/Ode/Ottava Rime/Pantoum/Quatern/Quatorzain/Quatrain/Quintain/English & Sicilian Sonnets/Quintella/Rhyme royal/Rispetto/Rondeau&Rondea redoubled/Rubaiyat/Sonnet/Tail Rhyme/Terza Rima/Terzanella/Triolet & Villanelle}

NARRATIVE

I would say this is correctly labeled under Narrative because it does tell a complete story and used few poetic vehicles.

Misty White

by Denver Reese

Misty white threatens to consume us,
Feet slip and rope drag against the deck,
Their voices grow louder as
Waterfalls of rain pour into the ocean,
My stomach grows *as cold as the rocky face before us,
They hold on for hope and I let go,
Too late to turn back, I welcome the mist,
And all hands are lost.

Hmmm though it maybe Prose Poetry? THOUGHTS???

PROSE POETRY

I find when reading through the "I Don't Knows" most are using end rhyme.

When beginning to learn how to write RHYMING poetry I would sugest you start with COUPLETS & Monorhyme, then move on to the 4 line groupings of Quatern/Quatorzain/Quatrain. From here it's an easy step to the Sonnet forms.

So, anyone out there want to step up their game and try a new form?

If I've done it a few times I'd be glad to help [Many many teachers on this site just ask folks love to help!]

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Joann
Grisetti

Date: 10/7/2012 3:14:00 PM

After readin a number of new poems today, I have concluded most people just don't know and don't care what they write, or what it is called.

Tim
Ryerson

Date: 10/4/2012 5:50:00 PM

Well cher...'I don't know?' what to call her poem either but I DO call it damn good!...If I'm not sure I just call it 'Light Poetry'...Not sure about this but I believe TRUE rhyme isn't a couplet, mono, limerick or any of that other stuff... but strictly A/B/A/B or A_A_... or _B_B...right?

Debbie Guzzi
Date: 10/4/2012 6:12:00 PM

Hey Tim!! Light Poetry is a GOOD ..CATCH-ALL too! Very good!

Sara
Kendrick

Date: 10/4/2012 4:44:00 PM

Interesting blog..I pick a form and write to the form..Sometimes i just let her rip onto paper and post as whatever like free verse or prose poetry and then let everyone have a heyday with it..Sara

Carol
Eastman

Date: 10/4/2012 11:41:00 AM

A great informative blog. Well done. You mentioned a few rhymes I've never hear of... I'll be checking a few out.

Debbie
Guzzi

Date: 10/4/2012 7:55:00 AM

Also Dee no one here that I can see has the skill of Mary Angelou or Chris Manse, both of whom could write to form if they chose to I'm sure. Time to break the rules when you know the rules.

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 10/4/2012 7:54:00 AM

Also there are MANY forms not being represented on our list of choices. I just wish all the categories were alphabetically ordered for us to choose from.

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 10/4/2012 7:53:00 AM

The only thing I don't like is going to a poem that is labelled incorrectly, seeing someone posting a long rhyming poem as haiku for example. You see it a LOT. I just wish they would use I don't know rather than do something like that. But this was nice for you to do. I hope those that need it will read it. Verse is a nice catch all, true and Rhyme catches all the rhyming stuff!!!

Debbie
Guzzi

Date: 10/4/2012 7:52:00 AM

I could spend my time here listing sites which agree with me Dee re:Modern haiku and until we have a category for it, the above is not a traditional haiku & my teacher would not call it a modern haiku either BUT this blog is not hear to re-open the haiku wars

Debbie
Guzzi

Date: 10/4/2012 6:46:00 AM

#1 at Dee, As I have tried to show if you don't want to think about what form you are writing in but don't want to appear unknowledgable a CATCH ALL is to call it VERSE. To me if you use "I Don't Know" it means you'd LIKE to know?

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 7:12:00 AM

This is not only an online journal for haiku writers, but also publishes a lovely hard copy version. It publishes/accepts a variety of haiku styles and disciplines, traditional, modern and contemporary. I completely support teaching traditional haiku, but I disagree in stopping English 'ku from moving and changing.

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 7:09:00 AM

http://www.dailyhaiku.org/haiku/2009-september-09

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 7:08:00 AM

http://www.dailyhaiku.org/haiku/2009-august-27

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 7:05:00 AM

http://www.dailyhaiku.org/haiku/2009-august-18

Debbie Guzzi
Date: 10/4/2012 7:00:00 AM

maybe I got confused or maybe she changed it...not sure Dee but I stand by what I said for me it is not a haiku on too many levels

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 6:56:00 AM

I visited her page. She has it labeled as haiku. ???

Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 10/4/2012 6:55:00 AM

Possible. But it COULD also mean, "I don't know AND I don't care" Soupers we've seen for a while who ususally don't use I don't know are probably wondering...but a new souper, who really knows? My vote? Give them time to explore the forms on soup, approach soupers and read the poems and posts. And you can still be knowledgeable and break molds. Yes?

Debbie Guzzi
Date: 10/4/2012 6:53:00 AM

and I didn't label Cynthia's write Free Verse she did ;) I do agree because not even modern haiku uses anthropomorphism and/or personification or simile, she does have 2 parts but line 3 is cause and effect ..if it was a haiku it has a weak line 3 and it is totally 'subjective' //a jewel of an image but Free Verse

Joann
Grisetti

Date: 10/3/2012 7:26:00 PM

Good blog - I run into these and am not sure if the poet wants to be corrected or just read.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 10/3/2012 7:24:00 PM

And Cynthia's haiku is contemporary.

Cyndi
Macmillan

Date: 10/3/2012 7:20:00 PM

Love you, you bull dog. Now, honestly, do you really think poets like Mary Angelou or Chris Mansel even consider what form they are writing in or do they just write TOWARDS a form and trust that the reader will either find something to enjoy or disregard? I appreciate trying new forms, reading of them, exploring works and examples, but I certainly couldn't care less if someone calls something verse or rhyme. It is what it is TO THEM. When it does matter is when you submit your poem towards a mag that is looking for a particular form, in which case I suggest that the poet read the magazine and see what the editor feels is the form's new direction. know the market and the readers dictate what is wanted and acceptable, says the fiction writer. xox