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BYRON modesty & fishing for praise -a quote

Blog Posted:6/30/2021 12:54:00 AM

Modesty is the only sure bait when you are fishing for praise so opined Byron

......should a poet 'true to  self'  care about getting comments if we get readers even if only a few



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Date: 7/9/2021 7:01:00 AM
It is nice for a person to read my work and take time to comment. It inflates my balloon so to speak but balloons do deflate over time and need the nice comments to help the writer to be inspired to write again. Some people probably don't need anyone to comment and are just happy to post them and go on their merry way. Maybe I am a little insecure. Sara
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Date: 7/1/2021 6:16:00 PM
Sometimes I get comments and sometimes I don’t. I’m happy when I do and when I don’t I certainly won’t chastise and complain about it. Maybe if we post enough poems somebody might read one of them a hundred years from now and then we will be famous.
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Date: 7/1/2021 1:48:00 PM
Another thought: As Jan had observed in the thread below, some poems get "reads" within seconds ... Maybe the logarithms are set to indicate site/poem reads. Hence all the hits, but no comments.
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Date: 7/1/2021 1:30:00 PM
To comment, or not to comment? That is the question ... At first, one might feel intimidated by the popularity or obvious stature of a poet, and shrink from commenting. A poem might not be readily understood, and again someone might be reluctant to comment. It was mentioned here that some poetry seems to attract more attention than others. Should we care if we are at the receiving end of this apparent luckluster show of support? I think we should continue to write (and share) to our heart's content and if we pick up a nod or two, all is well. We chiefly write for ourselves and not for an audience. Yes, it might be a form of imortality, but my family will most likely use it as kindling ;))
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Susan Woodrow
Date: 7/2/2021 7:44:00 AM
LOL!!
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/2/2021 2:26:00 AM
And the refrains came about after an ale or two addled the brain, because they could not remember what was already said ... ;)) Just listening to some efforts being made to sing our national anthem at a rugby match, will give you a clue to this phenoma. They sound like out of sinc acapella ,,, lol ,,, (I shouldn't laugh.)
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Susan Woodrow
Date: 7/1/2021 11:56:00 PM
indeed but therein lies the loss of artistry and poetry is not a simple way of saying things (the devices alone make a head spin!) except perhaps in the days when rhyme and refrains helped minstrels recall lyrics etc to recite from memory...
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Suzette Richards
Date: 7/1/2021 10:13:00 PM
It is said that if you have something important to say, say it simply. But I do fall in the trap of trying to say it in a unique way, and sometimes go over the top with some poems. :))
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Susan Woodrow
Date: 7/1/2021 10:01:00 PM
I have found the more abstract my writes, the less comments so you do have a point re understanding...but I have always enjoyed abstracts because they are open to various interpretations but I think the fear is that something is perceived as misunderstanding? Even if an entire write is not understood, there is usually something that perhaps sets off a thought - that then becomes my comment usually...I like to see which tangent or new interpretation a reader takes my write but alas not enough is ever said...I was thrilled when someone talked about car struts when I talked about pigeon struts cos it never occurred to me as I wrote!
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Constance La France
Date: 7/1/2021 4:54:00 PM
well said Suzette, and lol my family will likely do the same ...
Date: 7/1/2021 4:31:00 AM
Modesty is fine provided it does not become the ' Uriah Heap' cloying humility.
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Susan Woodrow
Date: 7/1/2021 1:09:00 PM
which is why I qualified my statement with 'true' modesty, a rarity, as opposed to the Heep-type who makes a braggart far preferable lol
Date: 7/1/2021 4:18:00 AM
A poet being true to self should only care that he/she liked a poetic creation enough to post it. While we enjoy the reactions of others who leave sincere comments, they shouldn't matter. A fisherman seeking praise often exaggerates about his ability to catch fish or write poetry.
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 6:05:00 AM
Without a doubt, Jan. He claims his minnow was a biggun! A trophy winner.
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JAN ALLISON
Date: 7/1/2021 4:48:00 AM
Thanks for the smile with that comment Jenna i suppose he catches a tiddler but claims its a whale lol:-) hugs jan xx
Date: 7/1/2021 12:41:00 AM
Being creative is indeed what this workshop is & always has been about.Long may it be so.
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Constance La France
Date: 7/1/2021 4:52:00 PM
Brian, yes, may it always be so ...
Date: 6/30/2021 9:39:00 PM
a truly modest person would never ask for compliments but it is those not of the same inclination, like Byron, who'd make such an observation...and yes, a poet true to self would care for a comment, if only to see how the rest perceive what he /she has written...otherwise, you'd not be a poet but rather a diarist and diaries are supposed to be private, not public like PS :)
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Date: 6/30/2021 5:57:00 PM
Comments are nice to receive but to me they are not the be all and end all of posting on soup, I have some with lots of comments and others with barely a comment. As long as i am being creative that is the most important thing and if i can make folk smile then that is even better.
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 4:25:00 AM
Yep, Jan, and I'd rather receive no comments than ones that are copy/pasted .
Date: 6/30/2021 2:09:00 PM
Brian, thanks for the blog, well that is an interesting question for sure. I find that comments are like strokes of love in a way, it gives a poet confidence in their writing and makes them proud of what they have created and I see nothing wrong with that. But is it important to the true poet who write because they must, I think not, for it is in the writing the stroke of love is found. I have so many poems with no comments or just one and it does not bother me that much although I appreciate when others comment on my poetry, it gives me wings to fly, peace and tranquility _Constance
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Constance La France
Date: 7/1/2021 4:51:00 PM
Jenna, exactly, well said ~ love and serenity _Constance
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 4:24:00 AM
For me, writing is often cathartic. I think it is for you, too, Constance. We write because we must give our emotions an outlet, allow them to live outside of our hearts and minds.
Date: 6/30/2021 11:36:00 AM
Ideally, comments are a way to gauge ones writings. Which would be especially more true if they came from fellow poets. However, gauging sincerity in comments is key. I have seen absolutely fantastic top class poetry receive zero or else just a couple comments- whilst also seeing very poor poetry gets loads of comments. Thus there is no totally reliable way to gauge progress by number of reads or the number of comments received on a piece..
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L MILTON HANKINS
Date: 7/1/2021 8:09:00 PM
Jenna, the cream always rises to the top. Little by little the newbies with real talent are discovered and join the veteran ranks. Like all things, you have to work your way to the top! Right?
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 4:22:00 AM
Hi Robert, I've also read a few wonderful poems from new poets to the site that are being totally overlooked. Too much attention is paid to the regulars, but they were once newbies, too. True talent is sometimes overlooked.
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 4:20:00 AM
That's often true, Jan. But numbers don't mean much in a site so easily gauged.
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JAN ALLISON
Date: 6/30/2021 6:00:00 PM
In the past i've seen poems posted that get 100 plus 'reads' within seconds of being posted and no comments, and the only person who comments is the poet themselves but i suppose if it makes them happy then so be it.
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Robert Lindley
Date: 6/30/2021 11:49:00 AM
Great quote and blog Brian!!
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Robert Lindley
Date: 6/30/2021 11:43:00 AM
Yet, one must always doubt when a poem has a very high number of reads and zero comments. Ideally poets would tend towards honesty and poetic fellowship--were it not for the high competition level set.. There seems to be no easy answer to the negatives of this problem. Unless one decides to write and let posterity be the final judge of their work. As poets we are addicted to writing. I venture most of us want feedback and a great many of us have doubts about our own poetic journey. Doubts unless one truly thinks they are -already-- a great and magnificent poet akin to the golden poets of old. Some few come very close imho- but none have clearly reached that status, imho..
Date: 6/30/2021 10:27:00 AM
Modesty is rarely the venue of the narcissist.
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Jenna Logan
Date: 7/1/2021 4:19:00 AM
Oh, good thought, Milt. It should be in a fortune cookie!
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Robert Lindley
Date: 6/30/2021 11:48:00 AM
Modesty is a garment most poets seem to abhor. As truth is it takes a lot- a lot-- to bear ones heart and soul and do such for purely altruistic motives. Leaving something behind when gone from this realm rates very high in poet's sacrificing so much of self and most often receiving so very little in return during their lifetime. One has to love it to keep on doing it, imho.

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