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Subliminal Plagiarism


Blog Posted:4/4/2018 5:57:00 PM

 

 

I started off writing a good old-fashioned troll blog but then remembered the pain and agony of being forcibly exiled to poet purgatory so decided on this instead (sigh).

A few years ago I wrote a blog on another (more liberal?) site entitled: Mind Control - What Is It?  In it I explained that, short of hypnosis or demon-possession, there really is no such thing as mind control.  Perhaps what some call mind control is in reality what I term mind influence.  And isn't it true that virtually every facet of society wants to influence your thinking?  From the commercial world to the political to the religious to the educational system, everyone seems to want you to believe like they do, or to follow the agenda they've outlined for you.  The good news is that no one can make you do anything you don't want to.  Still, we are undeniably influenced toward certain lines of thought and actions.

In the music business much ado is being made over theft of intellectual property.  Whether it's a beat, a melody or a lyric someone is always suing someone else over an alleged infringement of copyrighted material.  While I have no doubt that in some cases outright theft is being committed, isn't it also likely that in other cases it's simply a matter of subliminal influence?  Think of all of the songs that are stored in your memory right now.  How many melodies can you hum?  How many lyrics can you sing word for word?  It would be highly naive to think that musicians are not or should not be influenced to some degree by what they have already heard.

Which brings me to the real point of this blog.  All of us would like to think that each time we create a new poem it is unique in the universe.  And, in a very real sense, it is.  True, we are using the same words that have been in use for centuries (or even milleniums in some cases, with variations), yet we have arranged them in our own unique way.  But think about some of your recent works.  How often have you written something that you immediately acknowledged (or perhaps later, in hindsight) as having it's origin elsewhere?

In my poem Parallel Universe the last line reads "see you on the edge of forever."  At first blush it feels unique, yet later I realized it was influenced by the title of the Star Trek episode City On The Edge Of Forever.  Subliminal plagiarism. 

As you can imagine, we are all influenced by what we hear, what we see, what education we are exposed to and so on, thus no one can truly make the claim they are a 'one of a kind' writer, poet, artist.  Nevertheless, that should not be a source of discouragement.  Why?  Because the special way we arrange our words may cause someone to laugh, to cry, or to think along new lines.  And that makes what we do worth every minute.  It is the greatest gift an artist can impart - to impact someone's life in some small way.  Bottom line, find enjoyment in what you are creating and in the creative works of others.  Yet remembering that we all share certain experiences and commonalities should keep us humble.  Plagiarism is reprehensible, even punishable.  Subliminal plagiarism is, alas, unavoidable.

 

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Date: 4/15/2018 11:47:00 AM
I was plagiarized and took it upon myself to attack the person that did it with 3 poems aimed personally at the individual, they literally copied and pasted words from 2 or 3 of my poems and added it to words from 2 famous songs. The individual was listed by poetrysoup as the 5th or 6th best new poet with just one poem that was completely stolen. I don't think I'd have minded if I was informed tbh. I understand that famous or even non famous poems influence and people create their own poem with rearranged words, it's like the limited number of musical notes, at some point every combination will have been put together, and words are nearly the same. Just inform first is all I say
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July Morning
Date: 4/15/2018 7:22:00 PM
Rock on Nickster
Date: 4/11/2018 2:44:00 AM
to the snakes in the grass, slithering foolhardy, onto connie's cache of poems dare you to plagiarize, take the crown jewels, and then hiss.
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July Morning
Date: 4/12/2018 4:13:00 PM
Ka-ching baby!
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rob carmack
Date: 4/11/2018 11:07:00 PM
Tommy, you forgot the 'Cha-Ching'.
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July Morning
Date: 4/11/2018 7:16:00 AM
Sssssss
Date: 4/8/2018 1:08:00 PM
I remember when I first started writing poems and posting here, I wrote a line that I thought was creative, something corny like, "breathe hope" and I think it was Andrea said she really liked that, so I googled it just to see if it was unique and it wasn't! There are a lot "breathe hope" things lol I was afraid that I had plagiarized, so I spoke up, and Andrea said it didn't matter that it was used before. I think we should never intentionally plagiarize, but I agree that there will inevitably be some subliminal or unintentional things. btw, I think this is a nice blog with a topic we can relate to, and I liked reading the comments.
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Date: 4/8/2018 8:00:00 PM
It's amazing how much info is stored away in our concious and subconscious mind. How sad to think dementia related diseases can rob us of a good portion of it
Date: 4/7/2018 12:06:00 AM
Tommy, an anomaly I see below. Now I am curious. Must be something from the past for her to come here so out of character?
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arthur vaso
Date: 4/8/2018 1:37:00 AM
LOL she only said what the silent majority thought so kudos to her!!!!
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rob carmack
Date: 4/8/2018 12:13:00 AM
Arthur, perhaps it is not an anomaly, but this is the first I have seen her 'edge' in a blog. It is good to see you rally around the family.
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arthur vaso
Date: 4/7/2018 4:24:00 PM
As I said, At least the rest are completely in character.
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/7/2018 8:17:00 AM
Art for Art's sake...that's all that is!
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July Morning
Date: 4/7/2018 5:13:00 AM
Arthur, did they let you out for the weekend? This one may be a bit over your head lad
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arthur vaso
Date: 4/7/2018 2:10:00 AM
Not out of character at all, common sense only, something lacking here. At least the rest are completely in character!
Date: 4/6/2018 8:02:00 AM
I often wonder what kind of creative osmosis goes on in your mind, Tommy. Ever thought of leaving your brain to science? It's really more akin to science fiction lol. What a study that would be!
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/6/2018 8:51:00 AM
Are they that humanoid species from the Andorian orbits?
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July Morning
Date: 4/6/2018 8:23:00 AM
Elbonian. I think
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/6/2018 8:16:00 AM
I agree. What is your genus anyway?
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July Morning
Date: 4/6/2018 8:06:00 AM
Genius borders on madness...
Date: 4/6/2018 6:38:00 AM
- Who has ever written a poem with words that have NEVER been used before ? ... A stupid blog !
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July Morning
Date: 4/7/2018 5:12:00 AM
Ack! I've been trolled
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arthur vaso
Date: 4/7/2018 2:10:00 AM
You sure got that right!!!!!
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July Morning
Date: 4/6/2018 8:02:00 AM
Have a nice day
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Sunshine Smile
Date: 4/6/2018 7:21:00 AM
Absolutely unnecessary
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July Morning
Date: 4/6/2018 7:17:00 AM
lol. maybe I should simplify it for you dear sunshine
Date: 4/5/2018 8:53:00 AM
Unless one is making up new words one is just rearranging words to form new thoughts, feelings, ideas, emotions, imaginations, dreams and views. Can one be unique in that they write primarily about their own past life-after all nobody else has lived that life? So therefore repeating patterns of speech-or phrases in variants is a natural occurrence methinks. I write about my past life, love, hopes, dreams and the sorrows brought by Time And Fate.Sure other poets write about that too- but my writings comes from my life lived -not theirs. Thus, I think it quite unique enough.
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:22:00 PM
And I think that's the main thrust of the blog. Unique... And yet not
Date: 4/5/2018 8:34:00 AM
Hey, not sure where I heard or read it but the was this "theory"...."that if you placed na unlimited number of monkeys in front of an unlimited number of "computers"(typewriters) they would eventually compose all of the great works of literature" or something like that....
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:21:00 PM
Pretty sure The Macarena was written by a duck.
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John lawless
Date: 4/5/2018 9:53:00 AM
...AND PROBABLY WITH FEWER ERRORS THAN I MADE IN TYPING THIS.....
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/5/2018 8:57:00 AM
Yeah, but monkeys are known for aping others!
Date: 4/5/2018 3:31:00 AM
Very interesting blog July, Like many on here I try and read as many poems as I can but always have that niggle that sometime in the future I'll write a verse and then someone will say ,Hey that's my line, like you say as we go through life our minds soak up masses of information , words, songs ,images etc. Some time ago someone asked me to compose a poem about the Edmund Fitzgerald and when I was researching it there were lots of references to a Gordon Lightfoot tribute ballad. The last thing I wanted to do was be influenced by the song so didn't listen to it until I had finished. I remember talking to someone and he said whatever you do in life chances are it's been done before. Tom.
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Tom Cunningham
Date: 4/15/2018 1:02:00 PM
Yes I remember that one well Nick, haven't seen him since.Is he still on here ?
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Nick Trim
Date: 4/15/2018 11:49:00 AM
remember Kaden Sheppard, Tom? lol that wasn't by chance lol that was straight copy and paste lol
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:19:00 PM
Interestingly I wrote a song titled Katie O'Malley to the melody of the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Date: 4/4/2018 11:45:00 PM
Firstly can I say I'm shattered you elected out of the troll blog. My huge gnarly hairy hands were poised on my giant keyboard ready to go! I can't tell you how many times I've written a line or phrase and thought "wow, that's good, but have I heard or read that before". Subliminal plagiarism is an occupational hazard. I use words and phrases in my everyday speech that I've borrowed from conversations, from movies, from songs, from documentaries all the time. It is as you say "unavoidable". Now Tommy mate, about that troll blog...
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Becca Teagan
Date: 4/8/2018 12:34:00 PM
Behave. I love you both ;)
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/6/2018 8:14:00 AM
urggh...
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July Morning
Date: 4/6/2018 8:05:00 AM
Sorry dude she already picked me!
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Keith Trestrail
Date: 4/6/2018 7:54:00 AM
I'd rather be Bec's pet troll methinks. After all, every beauty needs a beast!
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Becca Teagan
Date: 4/5/2018 11:12:00 PM
ummm.....
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:17:00 PM
I'll write a troll blog if you agree to be my pet troll
Date: 4/4/2018 11:38:00 PM
GREAT blog, Tommy!! The other day I listened to some new song on the radio (can't think of their name right now) The intro is exactly the same tune as that used in a video of the song recorded by Ryan Lucas of my Honeymoon Serenade lyrics. It's Ryan's music but another group on youtube made a video and gave it a really cool vibe with an unusual back track . That same back track tune is used in this new song on the radio. So how the heck did that group ever hear that version of Honeymoon serenade on Youtube. It hardly has any hits!! What we believe is unique has been used similarly or maybe exactly the same way by at least some other person today, yesterday or in the future!!
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:17:00 PM
I need to post a poem in Ferengi. Bet no one's done that before!
Date: 4/4/2018 10:57:00 PM
Isn’t one of the joys of poetic expression the quest for a completely original weaving of our muse-fueled experience disseminations? Isn’t a basic tenet of “grown up poesy” the virtually sacred avoidance of cliches (public domain plagiarism) and trite phrases spun with no nuance? Roses are red, violets are blue, (I got nothing!). Influence is unavoidable and yet an infinitesimal change can reap depth and engagement-inducing communication completely foreign to the originator mindset. Poo on plagiarism, but (as an honest spirit moves) why read others work and not reshape a context so that one might be able to reach an entirely different or diverse audience. Ok, I’m done. :-)))
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Wayne Kingston
Date: 4/7/2018 6:13:00 PM
Irony perhaps, but PSoup Home Page under Resources, has a Cliché Finder feature.
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 3:16:00 PM
I think we're all in agreement on this one
Date: 4/4/2018 10:10:00 PM
(2) Whitman learned from Shakespeare, Shakespeare learned from Homer, Homer learned from those who came before him, and on-and-on back as far as those who drew on cave walls and whistled through a wooden tube. What we learn is the palette, our creativity is the implement, but without what we've learned from those who did so prior, we'd have little idea about how to USE the implement. We are what we absorb, and what we create is how we process that which we learn. Without humility the implement is unsteady and false, for ego has taken priority. Great blog, my friend - and well-said! :-)
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 12:19:00 PM
It surprises me sometimes how a song, movie line or theme comes out in my writing. It is what it is
Date: 4/4/2018 10:06:00 PM
(1) As a musician and poet, I absolutely am influenced by every poem and song I've ever heard or read - that's how we all LEARN, after all, from others. I can say with a large amount of certainty that almost everyone who has ever "created" anything of artistic endeavor, has done so by drawing on whatever they have taken in via their senses and acumen and applied to their own creativity. We still do the CREATING, but we're using the tools we've been given and taught by way of those who came before us. (continued)
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Date: 4/4/2018 9:53:00 PM
How many times have we used the line , "I love you" or " I drown in the ocean of your blue eyes" and so on... Those line could have been used a billions and billions of times by so many .. we say and write what we see and feel and we can not help that we repeat those same words .. If it is our creation or not .. I really don't know how to explain myself.. I do understand where your coming from..
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July Morning
Date: 4/5/2018 12:18:00 PM
Exactly. And it's okay
Date: 4/4/2018 6:21:00 PM
No doubt that most, if not all, word pairings, phrases, etc have been thought of, spoken or written by someone somewhere in the past. Considering AI and computer programs, I would say everything has been covered. Concerning vanity, no one should over-inflate their pride over poetry, no only for the reasons we are discussing, but also due to how subjective the art is.
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July Morning
Date: 4/4/2018 6:28:00 PM
Likely true. If so it would certainly confirm the words of Solomon written some 3,000 years ago "There is nothing new under the sun."

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