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UPDATED-JUST STRUCTURED PROSE discussion now with recitation link

Blog Posted:1/24/2017 7:18:00 AM
UPDATE: RECITATION/READ  BOTH VERSIONS http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=DOR6BA501pk

Order a pint or what you will find a pew or stool ...and join in if you are so inclined or just propup the bar as they did in 'Cheers' so long ago.

What is prose and what is poetry? and does it really matter 

To illustrate this question I show below in A a piece of prose I submitted  here on PS in a contest way back when.and in B
the same piece visually presented in another contest as as poetry ( as I label it STRUCTURED PROSE 
it would appear  there is only two real differences between prose and poetry...

Visual presentation and ...

...the fact that poetry is written to read aloud, as it better permits the use of the inflections of the human voice and the 'pause' for greater effect upon the listener.

The reading becomes an experience or to paraphrase Pollock in another context ' an arrested moment in time'


A.PROSE
I pushed at the open door,there was no sound,no noise,just darkness all around.Dust filtered my nostrils,a mustiness of lost years inhabited my senses.A loose floorboard creaked as I headed for the stairwell,the aroma of her Chanel provoked memories of my living hell.A tear of self-pity congealed in the dirt as I switched on the light."Hello son,I knew you'd be back
He's gone..."

 

B.AS STRUCTURED PROSE ie poetry

I pushed at the open door, no sound
just darkness inside. Dust filtered my
nostrils, a mustiness of lost years
inhabited my senses. A loose floorboard
creaked in the stairwell, the aroma 
of her Chanel provoked memories of my
living hell. A tear of self-pity congealed
in the dirt at my feet.I switched on the light,
"Hello son I knew you'd be back;He's gone..."

Hear me read/recite  both versions here http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=DOR6BA501pk


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Date: 1/28/2017 10:32:00 PM
What defines poetry is connotation, word play or double meanings, purposeful line cuts, the marriage between words by utilizing similar sounds (assonance, consonance, alliteration, euphony, cacophony,) precise word usage and -- most of all--uncommon word pairings. I have read writing that used rhyme that are in no way poetry. I've read metered writing that is in no way poetry. I've read prose poetry that captures something so fresh that the observation/experience is what is poetic. Recently, I used homophones purposely in a line and in order for it to be fully grasped, it MUST be read, not heard. Good poetry stands on its own as the inflctions are given by stanza breaks, line breaks, punctuation or decided use of no punctuation, spacing, the poetry's formation. Often, a poem read aloud loses something, because the poet has carefully crafted the page, put in those breaks with near-perfect intention that brings something truly stunning to the work, and then as he/she reads it? It falls flat. Literature is written to be read. Performance is meant to be viewed and heard. Sorry, Brian. I don't mean to offend. I just feel very strongly that poetry belongs first and foremost on the page, where it breathes, comes alive in the mind of the reader. It is why I write poetry.
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Doug Vinson
Date: 2/22/2017 7:32:00 PM
Late on this conversation, I realize. I think that often, different people will take differing positions, here, and that all may be correct - in that we all have varying levels of response to visual images, sounds, etc. One may respond more to the printed page, while another prefers to hear it read.
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Brian Strand
Date: 1/29/2017 10:34:00 AM
Hear this Cyndi by me on my youtube. Youtube audio link to hear me recite from my PS anthology http://www.youtube.com/user/ichthyschiro/
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 1/29/2017 8:31:00 AM
Sylvia Plath reading her own poetry ... BADLY www.openculture.com/2013/05/hear_sylvia_plath_read_fifteen_poems_from_her_final_collection_ariel_in_1962_recording.html
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Cyndi Macmillan
Date: 1/29/2017 8:26:00 AM
Here is my nightmare: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEnjK-nOOc
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Brian Strand
Date: 1/29/2017 2:45:00 AM
Not convinced Cyndi by your reasoning ,my experience leads me to the opposite conclusion.No offence taken we just happen to disagree on this topic and probably always will.Have a good day
Date: 1/24/2017 8:27:00 AM
For my taste its all about 'horses for courses' If my piece was as a ' intro para for a short story ,say. then prose would be my preference.BUT as a standalone piece I prefer it as Structured Prose ie poetry ,although I did not write it that way in the first place.
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Joanna Daniel
Date: 1/25/2017 3:14:00 AM
What you say is right, Brian, but I would still prefer it as prose, as you never meant it to be poetry in the first place:)
Date: 1/24/2017 7:33:00 AM
Not all prose can be considered as poetry, Brian, in this case, it sounds better as prose (at least, to me) :) also, thank you for my placement in your previous contest:)
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Brian Strand
Date: 1/25/2017 5:28:00 AM
Jo, my original prose version in 2010 was to meet a PS contest requirement.Later in my poetic bios journey as I came to understand more of the significance of poetry aloud I re posted it as structured prose in B above
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Brian Strand
Date: 1/24/2017 8:21:00 AM
Yes Jo thats true what you say about prose,often just aimed to be read and absorbed quickly as in a novel.

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