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My Complaint Against Christian Fundamentalism

Fundamentalists have misinterpreted the wise men, Magnified them and blown up their faith in god, Claim that the magi had an epiphany, heard from above, In searching for, analysing and interpreting the nexus odd. So what’s the real story of the wise men, Because it’s they who had societal eyes, They were listened to and very much respected, By the many, the productive and the whys. There was something going on, a wave, a tide, To initiate socialisms feeling, equalising bride, Which let the poor and the working citizen, Be treated medically as they did not ever sin. A rebel was born not through experience, but by birth, To parents out with the marriage contract, Whose bond was love with natural affection, And who reared the child on such an astute fact. The wise men understood Jesus beginnings, Accepted their power to enable his work and carvings, And balanced his parents sexual immorality, By giving reputation, a promise for him to be god on high. The magi, as Zoroastrians, believed in free will, That actions are completely yours, not gods, Not prompted, divine, suggested or derived, But yours to enjoy or for you to suffer from your frauds. So as wise men they advocated themselves, As the finders of the messiah of the jews, As his pronouncers and original validators, As the hinters of his apparent short fuse. I was always taught, right through childhood, That god told the wise men where to go, What stance to take about this needy child, And how to interpret his parents certain know. Zoroastrianism is the total explanation, Of the people’s toleration of Jesus Christ, And I posit that societal interpreters have secured, Much sociology, which was by them allured.

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Date: 6/9/2021 10:15:00 AM
It was interesting to reread our conversation.
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Date: 10/25/2015 5:08:00 AM
...for my happiness and for me to have a life by actions, interactions and reactions. Knowing about other people and other things is enough for me to understand when things go wrong or don't work out as you would want them to, in that you can work things out just from people relationships and real occurrences, not metaphysics motions that just may be to do with you or in your head. The magi may be said to be the voice of god, cos god ever having a voice initially is a very big question.
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Date: 10/25/2015 5:01:00 AM
..(including outer space), and the latter being numbers, qualities, metaphysical laws etc. Philosophers can put everything abstract back to numbers, qualities, relations etc and exclude the metaphysical, which if it is proven to be not needed then we can imply that god doesn't exist. So the incarnation is not even a potential occurrence that you can believe in and tell people about. The gift of other people, the gift of life and the gift of nature and the earth and planets are big enough...
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Date: 10/25/2015 4:49:00 AM
The Bible makes much sense to me when read atheistically, and to me the wise men were ripe for the task of calling jesus god since they believed in active participation, because someone had to if the baby was to have at least a minutely decent life. Metaphysics is questioned as existing by philosophical ontology, as our free will or capacity for behaviour or action can be defined and described using physical and abstract entities, the former being physical objects, people and places...
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Date: 10/25/2015 4:26:00 AM
...of his life was enough for him to fulfil his true potential as they believed in their own active participation in directing life's future events and concerns. If you see jesus sacrifice on the cross as divinely inspired, not only do you in a small way spoil the goodness of god who would have had to have engineered someone's cruxifixction, but you also deprive yourself of seeing jesus death as something that happened which had so many positive repercussions for all people everywhere thereafter
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Date: 10/25/2015 4:16:00 AM
Really straight I don't believe that Christ was conceived of by supernatural means, because I don't believe god exists. So a slant on the incarnation is that it posits that god pushed, promoted or notioned that jesus was god, or reputable, or worth a look in, the validation of his life being important because he was never a normal child with normal rights and opportunities since he was born outside of marriage, which was not done in that day. I fully believe that the wise mens endorsement...
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Date: 10/24/2015 3:55:00 PM
I will await your response. One of the pillars of my faith is also free will. Interestingly the relinquishing our free will, to our Heavenly Father results in our ultimate freedom. It is an act of both love and faith that allows us to enter into an intimate relationship with our God. The sin which separates us from God is washed away thus allowing us to commune with God through His Holy Spirit.
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Date: 10/23/2015 2:50:00 PM
Sorry Richard, I am using my iPad at the moment and find it really hard because of my disability. I really want to give you a reply about the incarnation, but is it ok if we wait until I'm on my computer again for that? Thanks.
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Date: 10/23/2015 2:36:00 PM
I believe that the Zoroastrian belief in free will was vital to Jesus ability to and right to live just as he wanted to in the way that he wanted to. Without their validation Jesus would never have made anyone well as he would have been embarrassing to be beside. Also, because Zoroastrians were messianic, they were by their faith called to say to people who they thought the messiah would be from what they saw of the young life which was apparent to them.
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Date: 10/23/2015 1:28:00 PM
With this write you are disputing the central tenant of our faith, that Christ was conceived by supernatural means. That belief would invalidate the power of His Sacrificial gift. If he was sinful or conceived in sin as we are, his sacrifice would be of no value. We would be in the position of having to try and earn our salvation, something humans are ill equipped to accomplish.
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Date: 10/23/2015 9:50:00 AM
It is interesting that Zoroastianism considered by some to be the the origination of the Aramaic religions. Fundamentally it is quite different from Christianity because it is a merit based belief. If you do good you go to heaven if you do bad you go to hell. Within Christianity Salvation is a gift and does not need to be earned. I found this an interesting write.
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Dominique Webb
Date: 10/23/2015 1:13:00 PM
Hi Richard, I am really talking about the magnitude of the input of the magi on Jesus reputation and so his actual ability to and right to live just as he wanted to live. These were wise men who were the people you listened to for what was hap and for the next big thing
Date: 10/22/2015 12:27:00 PM
Interesting poem. I hadn't heard of Zoroastrianism until now but Google has given a lot of reading material.
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Dominique Webb
Date: 10/22/2015 3:24:00 PM
I find Zoroastrian theology very facilitatory of the baby Jesus.

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