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9/26/2021 12:46:57 AM
Topic:
Consciousness Before Conscience

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
Great news, I sincerely congratulate you on publishing your first of a two-part poetry book. I have just read this post and have already managed to go to amazon and view the first pages. It's really very talented.
9/25/2021 11:32:43 AM
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Robert James Liguori

Robert James Liguori
Posts: 3
Hi. My name is Robert. I thought I was a good poet with just a few poems, then I joined this site and discovered so many poets that I look up to! I also learned about meter and poetry forms. Wow, I didn't realize there were so many poetry forms!!! My simple though emotional poems draw off of being on this Earth for nearly fifty years and my experiences... I'm a very emotional poet and I put everything, heart and soul into each word I write.

I invite you to explore my poems, and feel free to soup mail me, I'll love to read your poetry too!
edited by RobertLiguori on 9/25/2021
9/25/2021 11:23:08 AM
Topic:
This place is a joke

Robert James Liguori
Posts: 3
This place is *not* a joke. It actually has some nice people and a fine community of poets, both readers and writers alike. I'm glad I found it.
9/25/2021 11:12:01 AM
Topic:
The Ice Rose

Robert James Liguori
Posts: 3
Please critique this poem of mine...



The Ice Rose



My crippled hands hold the sculpture

cold, melting

reflective of a life well lived



Fingers drenched in it's calming water

chilling, surrounded

letting memories simply fade away



Colored ice petals slowly disappear

relaxing, infusing

a toxin for my diminishing breaths



The crisp stem is about to break

dosing off, losing grasp

this is how I want to go



A poet, a painter, a sculpturist

ending, finishing

with my art



.
edited by RobertLiguori on 9/25/2021
9/24/2021 11:39:26 AM
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Call for Submissions

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
I think this is a great initiative and publishing such a collection can motivate many people to send you their poems so that more readers can read them.
9/23/2021 10:32:19 PM
Topic:
Has anyone else used the love poem generator?

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
https://www.poetrysoup.com/poems/love_poem_generator.aspx



Just hilarious. And not too bad (snickering).
9/23/2021 7:52:00 AM
Topic:
Understand a broken relationship in poetry

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
It's the same with me, only with prose. When I feel very bad, I sit down, take a piece of paper and a pen and write texts that grow into fiction stories.
9/22/2021 9:05:11 PM
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Centering my poem in editing

Brandee Augustus
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I have totally forgotten how to do this and I would truly appreciate and example. I'm totally frustrated.
9/22/2021 9:28:55 AM
Topic:
book of poetry

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
I went to creatspace.com and read your book of poems. I really liked your poems and now I want to read more from you. Maybe you got another book out in these two years?
9/20/2021 7:02:31 AM
Topic:
Introduction; self.

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
Hey! I am glad to welcome you to the forum. An excellent title for a collection of your poems. I congratulate you on your publication.
9/20/2021 1:46:51 AM
Topic:
Introduction; self.

michael mc dermott
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Hi All, My name is Michael Mc Dermott. I have been making poetry for four years and published one book of poetry and short stories; 'TO Ride A Poem'. www.michael-mcdermott.net. I would like to post some poems for your consideration, and I will review your contributions.
All the best with your writing, Michael.
9/19/2021 10:23:48 PM
Topic:
Life will change

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
Very uplifting poem. Thoughtful. I like that you used "And" for the last line of each stanza (did you use the & on the first one for brevity?)

In the third stanza, all your lines rhyme. It's different than the others and maybe not as strong.

Great title.

Excellent imagery in the first stanza -- love the expression "mother of death" extending her hand. Not something I've heard before, but makes it less ominous when it's a mother, right?

Why are all the enemies forced to apologize?

Look what makes the first stanza so strong, and maybe adjust the others to contain the same imagery. Or not ;-)
edited by Twelve on 9/19/2021
9/19/2021 10:15:28 PM
Topic:
Poppy's Moon - Please critique

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
I like this a lot. It's not depressing, but a comfort for those who have lost.



On this line: "Some call them signs, others say spirit", you move from plural to singular. I might have made it 'spirits' instead. Minor. Style choice.




Really liked the approach. Nicely done.
9/19/2021 10:08:40 PM
Topic:
Pit of fire

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
One that makes you think, and brings me back to the Baptist church of my youth. Well done!
9/19/2021 10:07:31 PM
Topic:
Cold coffee

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
Love this. It flows so well and paints such a great picture. The title is excellent, and what drew me to read it.
9/19/2021 12:03:13 PM
Topic:
High Critque Forum Post: "Dog Days of August"

Dennis Spilchuk
Posts: 2
Twelve wrote:
Absolutely love that the reader can feel the affection you have for your dog.

1) There are a few grammatical changes that could be made -- or perhaps they're in there to give it a more "Where the Red Fern Grows" vibe? If 'loud' is modifying 'barks', it should grammatically be 'loudly'; "Lucky and me" ought to be "Lucky and I," but maybe that doesn't work for the poem.
2) Consider changing "And tongue" to "His tongue." Not sure you need the "And" in "And then for fun."
3) Weakest line: And when it's time to go, we hop. I don't think 'hop' works here.
4) Last verse is the best. Consider lengthening lines by adding adjectives.
Overall, a nice read. It has a wonderfully happy feel to it. TFS.


Reply:
I sincerely appreciate your analysis and would like to offer the following explanations, and would sincerely appreciate your feedback:

1) As you mention, loud is an adjective and loudly is an adverb. The dog would bark loudly if it wanted to draw attention because of some external force or to deter an external force; however, in this case, it is used as an idiom; the dog barks "out loud" (not incessantly or annoyingly in a very loud or frenzied way) to communicate, emphasizing that it has a point to make (like an adult would when telling or reminding a child to do something; they speak "out loud" implying it’s a serious matter at hand; not loudly repeating and shouting over someone’s head to be heard or to make a scene).
The premise of the fictional story “Where the Red Fern Grows” is filled with violence, and I can’t understand how you can compare it to my poem.
I did consider "Lucky and I", but it sounded so artificial, whereas "Lucky and me" is more realistic from a child’s perspective. The narrative is about a boy telling the reader about the relationship he shares with his dog.
The opening line sets the tone: “When my friend has something to say, he lets me know in his own way.”

2) "Tongue pants" in this case does not mean the dog is panting with "his tongue" to cool down, but is used as an idiom. The dog is frustrated and pants and uses other gestures to express or communicate. The child knows what the dog is inferring, but stubbornly engages in childish behaviours to which the dog reacts in standing its ground.

3) The idiom “hop to it” means immediately or right now, no questions asked. I hope the sense of responsibility placed upon the dog by the child’s parents or guardians is apparent. I stress in the poem that the child looks upon the dog as a friend and equal, whom he listens to with respect, albeit he plays games with the dog before conceding.

4) The poem is a quatrain in which I employ 7 to 9 syllables per line with rhyme and flow. Just adding adjectives and adverbs to lines as fillers just doesn’t cut it in poetry.
edited by Denny 747 on 9/19/2021
edited by Denny 747 on 9/19/2021
9/18/2021 2:58:37 AM
Topic:
Trial and error

Eduardo Richardson
Posts: 48
Yes, it is really one thing to write a text or a large book, but it can be very difficult to publish it after that. I encountered this for the first time when I tried to publish a collection of my poems. Very often I try to write poetry as part of my academic studies, but this may not always work out. I am helped by the company EduBirdie, with which I have been cooperating for quite a long time.
edited by Eduardo Richardson on 9/27/2021
9/17/2021 3:18:30 PM
Topic:
Two versions would appreciate comments

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
They're both good. I like the first one better. The only thing to consider is her mood on the last line. She's mourning throughout, making certain everything is perfect, but then she says with glee?? This is an excellent poem. Can you find a word that fits the rhyme scheme, but conveys a hopeful tone?
9/17/2021 3:12:37 PM
Topic:
High Critque Forum Post: "Dog Days of August"

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
Absolutely love that the reader can feel the affection you have for your dog.



There are a few grammatical changes that could be made -- or perhaps they're in there to give it a more "Where the Red Fern Grows" vibe? If 'loud' is modifying 'barks', it should grammatically be 'loudly'; "Lucky and me" ought to be "Lucky and I," but maybe that doesn't work for the poem.




Consider changing "And tongue" to "His tongue." Not sure you need the "And" in "And then for fun."




Weakest line: And when it's time to go, we hop. I don't think 'hop' works here.




Last verse is the best. Consider lengthening lines by adding adjectives.




Overall, a nice read. It has a wonderfully happy feel to it. TFS.
9/17/2021 2:55:05 PM
Topic:
I'm new, so any feedback would be great

Twelve Twelve
Posts: 9
This set a good mood until you hit the verse about the boys. The poem's about the girl, and the strong language used turns the focus toward the aggressors. Good, unexpected turn on the last lines.



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