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waiter this soup is repeating on me

which is worse to be a fake or fraud or sit by and watch ~ then applaud in truth makes no difference the game is up ~ next stage a firing squad plagiarism and AI does not make great soup ~ but a rotten cheap broth strange thing most of them posting it all ~ say they’re devoted to a god By David Kavanagh

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Jan Allison

Date: 8/25/2024 9:48:00 AM

well said David - it's quite unsettling to see soup admin are doing nothing all about POTW 28th July - quotes by J D Vance - not a word of it written by the poet themselves - i have mailed, tried to get their attention by putting a message on their book advert yet its still on the site - hmmm ! hugs jan xx

Jan Allison
Date: 8/25/2024 11:11:00 AM

yeah when i contacted admin all they said was it was chosen by an algorithm - but did nothing to remove it even though its NOT written by a poet on soup - go figure (I think I have lol)

David Kavanagh
Date: 8/25/2024 10:11:00 AM

I honestly don’t know how POTW is chosen, but I guess Admin has a personal hand in it themselves, strange how it doesn’t get the same recognition as POTD, this one in particular was about plagiarism of poems, which seems to have stopped, but AI is still blatantly rampant in the site?? Cheers David

Terry Flood

Date: 6/16/2024 4:38:00 PM

Three cheers for the man who said it loud! I don’t know the answer to AI but it surely needs to die. Sometimes the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. Even prior to the AI avalanche, 10 poems a day infuriated me… with no offence to anyone… no one can write 10 good poems a day… sorry… just a fact!

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/17/2024 10:09:00 AM

I would tend to agree with your 10 poems a day assessment Terry, the AI front is whole different ball game, it has won trophies and POTD accolades, now I see it creeping into the comments boxes, it just serves to devalue the whole poetry site, cheers David

Ink Empress

Date: 6/8/2024 4:11:00 AM

True and agreed, i think where i stand in this matter seems clear to many, as i am against plagiarism and also ai generated poems, in some sites they do allow ai poems as long as they mention that its ai generated , atleast thats less deceitful. Plagiarism is not at all cool and it isnt recycling when one takes a poem as it is and post it claiming as their own. I cant stand liars and cheaters . Well woven and delivered dear david pleasure reading this.

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/8/2024 5:42:00 AM

Great to hear from you Ink, and glad you added your voice here, to me the most concerning part about all this AI and plagiarism business is the seemingly absolute impunity those using it on this site have, Admin are doing nothing to reassure the community that these cheats and fakes are being investigated, it’s an absolute disgrace on their part, thanks so much for stopping by today, cheers David

Gary Radice

Date: 6/5/2024 8:50:00 PM

Back again! It all needed saying and youve said it so well. It's important to understand what is driving blatant plagiarism behaviour. I wonder if its down to wanting to post as many poems as possible. Putting a stop to multiple poems daily and limiting it to a couple for example may also allow for the screening of poems by admin. We certainly need to take into consideration individual circumstances but all it takes is someone somewhere to sue and who knows what extra effect that might have on the individual in question - and indeed the site. Admin need to act carefully but quickly. Cheers - Gary

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/6/2024 3:45:00 AM

Thanks Gary, sure thing everyday there seems to be tranches of poems from certain poets all posted together, not one an hour like stipulated, but I would be inclined to agree with your assessment, that Admin has to be very careful how they deal with plagiarism, so will probably take time to sort that issue out, the AI issue seems a lot more straightforward, as it states before we post a poem if it’s AI generated, your account will be deleted? I’m not even sure if Admin is just one person doing a part time job, judging by the lack of communication with the soup community, it all seems very amateur and basic, cheers David

Tania Kitchin

Date: 6/4/2024 3:20:00 PM

David, a great set of monoku's and I agree 100 percent. it sours the soup for everyone when people do this, especially those doing the plagiarism.

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/4/2024 3:59:00 PM

Heya Tania great to see you today, really is difficult to fathom, I mean the glory enjoyed for a brief moment in the spotlight, must pale in comparison to the fall from grace that comes after being caught, and the hurt caused to the one plagiarised, sad all round, cheers David

I Am Anaya

Date: 6/2/2024 1:20:00 PM

No longer Poetry Soup but rather a watered-down gruel? I enjoy your humour. Human conduct detection will never be 100% but AI detectors are invaluable beyond words, lol. Ink says words are recycled but the full poem? UnChristianlike. We need to reach out to beyond the usual crowd (poets) and introduce new ingredients into the soup, they've always around but need a nudge or two to prompt them to participate! Recycle bottles not poetry...

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 2:09:00 PM

Heya Anaya, it’s very sad really to see the soup tainted with AI and plagiarism, Ink is right words are recycled, but not copied and pasted verbatim, posting AI poems is absolute madness and pointless too, yes I’ve been fooled by it, and actually admired some of the poets using same, The AI detectors are invaluable and necessarily, I’m sure PS could adapt its platform to detect these poems early, and not leave it up to the community to fend for itself, cheers David

Victor Buhagiar

Date: 6/2/2024 8:23:00 AM

Al is to me cheating and shows incapacity of writing for yourself. I have seen examples with relatives and found they have no real continuity and are easy to detect.

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 9:08:00 AM

Of course it shows incapacity of the individual using it Victor, but is rapidly becoming more clever, and can be really hard to prove and fully detect without the right tools at hand, luckily they are available, PS needs to screen all Poem’s posted, and refuse them if AI is above a certain predetermined percentage, cheers David

Craig Cornish

Date: 6/2/2024 8:08:00 AM

Right on/write on!

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 9:01:00 AM

Thanks Craig, needed to be said, cheers David

Lin Lane

Date: 6/2/2024 7:21:00 AM

Regurgitation is a word I'd use for anyone who claims to be a poet and uses AI. That soup is sour, and I won't slurp it, not that I've been around that much lately, anyway. Perhaps that doesn't give me the right to complain, but soup is not the same and hasn't been for months.

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 8:54:00 AM

Heya Lin, it’s pretty sad when a site like PS becomes infected with AI, and blatant plagiarism I know you have always been against this behaviour as indeed many others have too, insofar as whether the issue gets addressed is entirely up to Admin? it’s not the end of the world, but perhaps the end of the road for the ones who post this stuff without any qualms whatsoever, cheers David

Daniel Henry Rodgers

Date: 6/2/2024 5:09:00 AM

David, your clever wordplay skewering plagiarism and AI misuse is both biting and brilliant. I love your way with piercing social commentary through compact verse is truly impressive. This is a thought-provoking piece for all of us to take into consideration. - Blessings, My Friend, Daniel

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 5:47:00 AM

Heya Daniel I’m not here to name names or judge, I’ll leave that to Admin, the monoku above speaks for itself through me not AI generation, I definitely would say this though, only the ones using AI or plagiarising, need to take any of this into consideration, cheers David

Paul Willason

Date: 6/2/2024 3:31:00 AM

Hi David, so sad that the precious and almost sacred act of creating poetry is being so defiled by such practices. If authenticity is traded on the altar of ego and all that matters is recognition, we have lost faith and our humanity. Poetry speaks the mind, heart and soul of the writer, break that bond and it becomes poisonous froth.

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/2/2024 4:19:00 AM

Your comment equates to a poem in itself Paul, I’d like to believe that anyone who reads it, will grasp the depth of what you’re saying, alas to the plagiarist they will only see your comment as an opportunity to steal it’s value, and bastardise it’s good intentions, the AI generated stuff knocking around this site becomes absolutely worthless once uncovered and laid bare, cheers David

Tom Woody

Date: 6/1/2024 4:24:00 PM

You make some valid points. Well, except for the firing squad thingy

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/1/2024 11:21:00 PM

The firing squad is just a metaphor for (you’re fired) I would’ve joined in your blog but you have me blocked, it has some valid points too!

Gary Radice

Date: 6/1/2024 12:42:00 PM

Hey David. I’ve just responded to a blog about this. Is there an AI checker? I’m not aware of it. I can’t believe people are using AI and not admitting to it. They need to be called out as it’s not allowed on PS. and it’ll make a mockery of the site. Great work here. Cheers - Gary

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/1/2024 1:24:00 PM

Heya Gary I got an email from the soup during the week to watch out for poems that may be AI generated check out this link they gave me,(https://gptzero.me/) you might have to sign up to it but it’s free and safe, yeah hard to believe it’s been used by some top poets on this site, also poems are basically being stolen in full from all over the web and posted here by at least one top poet, even winning contests in the process, it’s an absolute joke, thanks for stopping by and adding your concerns, cheers David

Di11y Da11y

Date: 6/1/2024 9:56:00 AM

Well said David (and particularly witty and well written too!). Poetry is about sharing your soul, so taking another persons work and taking credit for it gratuitously is stomach churning stuff. It ruins the site, undermines the contests and compromises human interaction. I vote for authenticity. I can't understand what the motivation was and I hope they have support for the fall from grace though...

David Kavanagh
Date: 6/1/2024 10:15:00 AM

Thank you Dilly, yeah the soup has become a joke of recent, some poets cutting and pasting other people’s work from different poetry sites, and posting it here as their own, some have even won trophy contests with them, AI is commonplace here too, I’ve been checking postings with the new AI checker PS provided all members with, and some of the so called top poets I actually looked up to on this site, their poems and comments are coming back as AI generated, I didn’t write this monoku lightly, but it needed saying, cheers David