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Free Will: Illusion Or Reality

Are we really free?
Free to chose to:
Go wherever we please? 
Do whatever we desire?
Be with whom we wish? 
Pick whichever thing we fancy?
Without coercion 
Without ever being obliged by an unseen force in 
A predetermined or predestined way?

How?  

How can we have free will to be wherever we
Wish to be
When:
Bound to earth we are with the 
Heavy chains of gravity
Obliged, incessantly to follow it 
And move
Around its circumference 
Around the sun  
Around the galaxy  
Around the universe, 
Having no chance ever to escape its
Deterministic laws?

Are we free?

Have we got a free will?
If yes, when did it start?
The day we were born or later on?
For the day we were born 
We knew nothing of:
What we were
Who we were 
What we wanted
What we needed 
What we desired 

Subject were we to our bodily organs and
Their functions
No control had we over:
Our heart
Our liver 
Our kidneys    
Our spleen
Our blood circulation
Our brain 
And had no idea of
How to defend ourselves against
Deceases 
How to produce blood
How to digest

We had not any control then and we have
No more control now as adults

How then are we free?

In what respect?

Is it because we choose A over B?
To be here or there?
To do this or that?

What if our choices are just the
Result of the working of nature in us?
The outcome of ideas and  tendencies, 
Implanted in our mind and soul by Man or 
Mother nature? 
 
Doesn’t our acceptance of free will seems
Like declaring:
The earth goes aroud the sun because 
Of its free will
Or  
A stone falls as a result of 
Its free will
Or 
A seed spouts because of its free will
Or
The salmon, after venturing for years in 
The ocean, returns to the river it came to life, 
To lay its eggs, out of free will?

Or is free will the result of 
Our Lord the creator and creator of the universe 
As they say?

If that is the case then we may ask:

Would the wisdom of our God entrust His creation to us?
To our free will to do as we please?

If the answer is yes, then 
What the result of such freedom would be on
The world God has created?  

Whatever the answer may be, the mystery
Will linger

For
 
We, know nothing for certain
Hence
We just believe!  


© Demetrios Trifiatis
  13 OCTOBER 2014

Copyright © Demetrios Trifiatis | Year Posted 2014

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Janelle Marie Date: 10/19/2014 8:49:00 PM Hi Demetrios I am a actor and performer. I was looking for poetry to perform and absolutely love this poem. I was hoping to have your permission to perform it. Thanks. Login to Reply Janelle Marie Date: 10/20/2014 10:00:00 AM Thank you so much for sharing!! :)) Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/20/2014 9:46:00 AM Chere Marie tu as ma permission! Dear Marie you have my permission to perform my poem " FREE WILL: ILLUSION OR REALITY with my blessings for something good to come out of it! Bonne chance! Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/20/2014 1:24:00 AM Willing to help my dear! Could you tell me a little bit more about yourself by sending a soup mail first? There will be a pleasure after that. Thank you for liking my poem and wishing to perform it! Merci!

Liam Mcdaid Date: 10/14/2014 10:16:00 AM free would be without judgement we all believe in the dream excellent piece explores a different view nicely penned dear friend Login to Reply Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/15/2014 1:12:00 AM Liam, my friend, when we examine a problem we have to examine it from all sides. Thank you for visiting and commenting! SENECA said " Those who accept their destiny, destiny carries them. Those who refuse it, destiny pulls them along the way!"

Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 12:46:00 PM Please have a look at my language Demetrious, I was expressing how I feel I did not say you were wrong. You asked me the question here and therefore I answered here. I have no desire to argue with you, I like that your writing creates a dialogue. You are a passionate person and I find that appealing. Please do not take my responses out of context for it is not my intention to offend. Login to Reply Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/13/2014 1:21:00 PM !

Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 12:26:00 PM A further thought, fanticism comes from one person or a group expecting others to be and do the same as them. This is contrary to the concept of free will. My witness concerning my faith is the sharing of how I experience my relationship with Jesus but in no way is my desire to have another experience God in the same way. Each relationship is as unique as the individual who experiences it. Login to Reply Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/13/2014 12:32:00 PM I know others who have done much more and with more experiences in life and have talked much less about themselves! Why do you want to win an argument that for 2600 years remains unsolved? If you want to write more use poetry soup mail! Please, use arguments not beliefs! Here is not a place of debate but of evaluation of the writing of someone, even if we do not agree with his writing! I think we have to agree not to tire our friends any more with that! Poetrysoup mail, please!

Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 12:17:00 PM To be consistent with God's will, humility and being a servant to others is paramount. Through working with the homeless God has used their hands to touch me as well. For me the primary way that God has touched me is through others. I would never see myself as having exclusive knowledge or being the true representative, I merely answered your question. I believe our purpose is to be loving. Login to Reply

Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 10:23:00 AM I feel it is a combination of both. I take God at his word. My faith is the result of numerous experiences where God has kept his promises. Through my weakness his grace has been revealed many times. I have been blessed to be a vessel of God's love and through my hands he has touched the poor as well as my friends and family. I am used dispite my own limitations. Login to Reply Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/13/2014 11:13:00 AM A little bit humility doesn't hurt anyone! We never know what others have done, probably have done more and probably their work is greater, therefore putting ourselves above others and thinking we are the only true representatives of God on earth who do HIS work, might be considered an Hubris in HIS eyes. We have to be careful about exclusivity of knowledge for it might lead to fanaticism and actions similar to those we see today In Syria and Iraq for they too believe that are the only ones who know the truth!

Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 8:50:00 AM Much to ponder, in giving us free will God has tied his own hands and as a result we see the results of our free will around us each day. When we submit our will back to God we become part of his kingdom and in the process the untying of his hands. Read my poem Human Hands if you have a chance. I found this piece thought provoking. Login to Reply Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/13/2014 10:00:00 AM Well Richard after so long you visited! Thank you my friend for your kind visit! Tell me my good Richard do you know it Or you believe it? For I believe it but I do not know it!

Eileen Manassian Date: 10/13/2014 2:43:00 AM Oh, my dear poet. God has given us free will...Unfortunately, it is that free will that brought sin into this world. I followed your line of reasoning well...Well I know the meaning thereof. Your wisdom as always is a source of inspiration to me. He gives us free will because he loves us and wants us to DECIDE to love him. That is the greatest demonstration of love...give the freedom to choose, even the choice that may harm us. Lovely write. Filakia pola. Login to Reply Richard Lamoureux Date: 10/13/2014 8:51:00 AM Amen! Demetrios Trifiatis Date: 10/13/2014 4:38:00 AM My dear, Eileen, as I have said: Belief and knowledge are two different things! Look what happens with THEM in Syria and Iraq they believe it is good to behead people and sell women to slavery because, they say, is what their God wants! Of course I know you do not believe in such things but in LOVE God's love! Here I just state a philosophical problem, that no matter what we do, we do not know the answer. The only thing we can do is to believe things to be this or that way! Thank you so much for your kind visit and comment! God bless you!