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Romans 4:1:
What then shall we say that Abraham, the forefather of us Jews, discovered in this matter?
(NIV)
[BUT] IF so, what shall we say about Abraham, our forefather humanly speaking--[what did he] find out? [How does this affect his position, and what was gained by him?](AMP)
What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
(KJV)
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