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Torchbearer

how much hate does it take to burn a nations flag ~ who sets this standard u CHOOSE Poetry Contest Sponsored by: Anthony Biaanco #13 Flag burning How many syllables 17 04/07/22

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Kai Michael Neumann

Date: 7/24/2021 4:54:00 AM

Good question ...

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/24/2021 6:01:00 AM

Difficult one Kai, probably never be answered fully, cheers David

Kim Rodrigues

Date: 7/13/2021 4:55:00 PM

That’s the question! Congratulations on POTD!

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/14/2021 12:07:00 AM

Thank you Kim, indeed this is merely an equation between hatred and flag burning, not meant to be a solution, cheers David

Christopher Flaherty

Date: 7/13/2021 12:57:00 PM

David is it not in-bred instilled from childhood taught by parents. We hate that which we are told or taught don't we. Even if we don't even understand who are we to agaist our own Is anyone born to hate ?

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/14/2021 12:13:00 AM

That was and continues to be the case in NI, but it can certainly differ in other countries, cheers David

Christopher Flaherty
Date: 7/13/2021 5:30:00 PM

Re-read your comment below. My point in case David. Ask them why they hate and they don't even know themselves. Hardest of all is to rise above it and think for yourself without fear of recrimination and persecuted yourself

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/13/2021 1:40:00 PM

Nobody is born to hate, but you can certainly develop dislike or hatred for certain individuals, bullies or people that hurt you, some people are xenophobic, which I believe can mean, fear or hatred of foreigners, but I don’t think it’s classed as a pathological disorder, I personally treat people with the same contempt they treat me, but that’s just me, cheers David

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/13/2021 1:22:00 PM

Big question Christopher, hate indoctrination can come from parents or the community your born into, even religion can play an insidious role, I believe most children will get along just fine, in old Ireland I was discouraged from playing with kids, of a certain Christian denomination, without being actually told why, but I never hated them

Arturo Michael

Date: 7/12/2021 7:53:00 AM

Injustice does...Your message came through clearly...Congratulations on POTD.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/12/2021 8:47:00 AM

Thank you Arturo, my own personal flag, the tricolour of Ireland sits atop many bonfires this day 12th July, in Northern Ireland, we have a peace treaty, but some standards of hatred remains, cheers David

Jennifer Proxenos

Date: 7/10/2021 11:42:00 AM

To get the honor of POTD for this outstanding write, It takes one awesome poet, a breathtaking monoku and incredible poetic passion and talent. Congratulations my friend. Hugs and blessings, Jennifer.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/10/2021 11:50:00 AM

Thank you so much for that wonderful comment Jennifer, your far too kind, I’m delighted you totally get the equation in my monoku, only a balanced mind will get the picture, cheers David

Alexis Y.

Date: 7/9/2021 12:52:00 PM

Hi David, Good one-liner. It takes a lot of hate. Congratulations on getting the poem of the day. Have a great day:-) Alexis

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/9/2021 1:03:00 PM

Thank you Alexis, it certainly does take a lot of hate, which is stoked by standard setters, ie the self appointed torchbearers, cheers David

David Kavanagh

Date: 7/8/2021 1:54:00 AM

For the attn of Wayne Kingston, It appears you can soupmail me, but I’m not allowed to reply, for some reason? in case you think I’m blanking you,

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/11/2021 12:43:00 AM

Your welcome Wayne,

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/8/2021 10:31:00 AM

I am not requesting an audience with you, so keep your unblocker open like I do

Jan Allison
Date: 7/8/2021 8:27:00 AM

David he has me blocked as i do him and he is fully aware i want nothing to do with him but recently he unblocked me to try and bait me to comment on a blog, just ignore him David he seeks attention as does his buddy. got to pity the pair of them

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/8/2021 6:28:00 AM

Why on earth would you soup mail someone, and then block them from responding, beggars belief,

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/8/2021 6:18:00 AM

Like everyone else I’m sure he has you blocked

Christuraj Alex

Date: 7/7/2021 11:23:00 PM

So much depth in thought. Congratulations!

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/8/2021 1:24:00 AM

Thank you Alex, yes it’s designed to be an equation of sorts regarding questionable standards, with a play on words, cheers David

Panagiota Romios

Date: 7/7/2021 8:45:00 PM

Yo, David! Congrats Dude. Even though the not so nice poets, crawled out of woodwork. Count the support, I have 2 years plus of patriotic poems, mainly ignored. I am glad you get attention, I just write. I am Disliked here, but that is Ok. Anyway, I don't need comments as I once did. I just write Poetry, that's why I came here. I cannot type, so cannot be on the iPad 13 hours anymore, You did very well, my man Congratulations, KUD0's. Be above the unkind remarks PANGIE R,

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/8/2021 1:20:00 AM

Thank you Pangie, My comments box is mostly empty, but I don’t mind either, this little monoku, is about the blind hatred and disrespect of burning a nations flag, if people don’t like the president or government that’s one thing, but to insult the whole nation is another, I’m still working so don’t have much spare time for the soup, I wish you well going forward, cheers David

Panagiota Romios
Date: 7/7/2021 10:02:00 PM

Eve, Thank you! You Never said a harsh or insulting thing to me.))) you are one of many. I just am sorry I cannot be on the iPad longer. Hugs Pangie!xx

Eve Roper
Date: 7/7/2021 9:56:00 PM

Hey girl, I'd like you

L Milton Hankins
Date: 7/7/2021 9:33:00 PM

Pangie, I read every poem you write and enjoy them immensely. I would comment, but apparently you have me blocked. I'm sad about that, as I try to write only positive, affirming comments always.

Eve Roper

Date: 7/7/2021 6:44:00 PM

Hey y’all! did a great one liner. Put down your guns and open your arms for peace. Congratulations on POTD, David. Southern drawl

Eve Roper
Date: 7/8/2021 7:44:00 AM

My feelings are mutual, David. I had two sons in the service one in the Navy, the other in the Air Force , and my husband of twenty years in the Navy

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/8/2021 1:10:00 AM

Thank you Eve, so wrong to burn a nations flag, it shows a standard of hatred, towards the whole country, and it’s people, not merely a protest against the government, cheers David

L Milton Hankins

Date: 7/7/2021 1:55:00 PM

David, just a note of congratulations on your POTD, and to say that I am appalled by some of the dialogue on this page. I encourage you to set your standard high, and do not allow yourself to take the haters and naysayers too seriously. We all recognize their game!

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 2:24:00 PM

Thank you Milton, I do understand where your coming from, it ain’t pretty, but it’s important for me not to pander to haters and liars, I choose to tackle them head on, cheers David

Ann Foster

Date: 7/7/2021 12:17:00 PM

The power of your words cut through the fog of darkness they try to place upon us... Stay strong. Excellent write. Ann

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:42:00 PM

Heya Anne, thank you for stopping by, I’m delighted you totally get the equation here, seems only the haters don’t, or refuse to get it, cheers David

Ken Rone

Date: 7/7/2021 11:44:00 AM

" Who sets the standard AFIRE?" And when does modification of Old Glory become glag desicration? Yesterday i saw one with whit red, blue green black and pink stripes???

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:38:00 PM

So I’m guessing you don’t actually have any opinion on the burning of the flag, come on just spit it out, whatever’s on your mind,

Daniel Turner

Date: 7/7/2021 10:52:00 AM

Congratulations David on POTD honors. "In the world of the blind the man with one eye is king."

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 11:14:00 AM

Thank you Daniel, I appreciate you stopping by, sure is! otherwise it’s just the blind leading the blind, cheers David

Constance La France

Date: 7/7/2021 8:53:00 AM

David, congratulations on receiving POTD with this one line that leaves one sadly pondering. When I have seen my countries flag being burned or destroyed in any way, it is like a dagger to my heart ~ peace and tranquility _Constance

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 11:06:00 AM

I totally understand Constance, it’s disgusting I witness it here in Ireland also, always driven by hatred, thank you so much for stopping by, cheers David

Maureen Mcgreavy

Date: 7/7/2021 8:42:00 AM

I do smell something burning. Congratulations on POTD Super Dave! xomo

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 10:58:00 AM

Ah Super Mo thank you, I’ve learned from the best, less can say a helluva lot more, cheers David

Gershon Wolf

Date: 7/7/2021 8:31:00 AM

Congrats on POTD... It takes both hate and the tacit support of a nation's government that is anything but proud of itself. Flag-burners, while supported to date by the Supreme Court, are not as 'comfortable' when the government frowns on them. Legality is not the only issue here... Happy Monday, David! ~ gw

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 8:56:00 AM

Thank you Gershon, I appreciate you stopping by, indeed it is legal to burn the national flag in the US, and a few other countries, I believe it is spurred on by systemic haters, sometimes influenced by outsiders, who as far as I can see hate everything American, cheers David

Anne-Lise Andresen

Date: 7/7/2021 7:34:00 AM

- Congratulations on your p.o.t.d. ... very much hate, David - hugs // Anne-Lise :)

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 8:10:00 AM

Heya Anne Lise thank you for stopping by, love the new avatar, hate and ignorance have no standards just depths of depravity, cheers David

Jenna Logan

Date: 7/7/2021 3:08:00 AM

Congratulations on having your standard showcased, David. It also gives everyone the opportunity to witness the ignorance and arrogance of a dolt. Cheers!

Anne-Lise Andresen
Date: 7/7/2021 7:46:00 AM

- If you are bored, Keith ... use your body ... not your mouth .... go for a walk, either along the road or on a high mountain ... cycle a few miles, go for a jog ... or maybe a swimming pool could be tempting? - Have a wonderful day ... it will never come back

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/7/2021 7:03:00 AM

Keith, I feel sorry for your wife. You admitted here that you cheat on her and I’m sure you abuse her like you do the women here. What a man you are.

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/7/2021 6:53:00 AM

I wouldn’t flirt with a braying ass.

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/7/2021 5:28:00 AM

You just admitted that you’re a dolt. Call you? I can’t write what you should be called on this site, but you’re making your mentality and gullibility level perfectly clear to everyone.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 5:28:00 AM

Yep fire starter English has always been my first language, and always will be, so long as the US reigns supreme and keeps the free world safe, you have nothing to offer only your ignorance and hatred of it,

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 3:45:00 AM

Thank you so much, It certainly does Jenna, I seen he was routed in the comments whilst I slept last night, what an idiot, has nothing to offer other than a pathological hatred of America, I’d say he’s feeling pretty lonely today, cheers David

Jan Allison

Date: 7/7/2021 1:40:00 AM

Dropping back with many congrats on POTD David:-) I am delighted for you on so many levels!:-) hugs jan xx

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 2:13:00 AM

Heya Jan, thank you so much, this one I’m particularly happy with, I’m delighted so many get the symbolism and equation behind this, as well of course exposing the hater, and fire starter, cheers David

Rama Balasubramanian

Date: 7/7/2021 1:11:00 AM

Congratulations on your Potd. Enjoy the honour.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 2:10:00 AM

Thank you Rama, I appreciate you looking in, cheers David

Arthur Vaso

Date: 7/6/2021 10:24:00 PM

Not always a fan of monoku, but I kinda really like this one!! So much in one line and makes one contemplate. :)

Jan Allison
Date: 7/7/2021 2:50:00 AM

They are just obnoxious and totally ignorant david you have to pity them:-(

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:33:00 AM

Thank you Arthur, I am delighted with your response, and for pointing out, how ignorant some people are of the English language, cheers David

Mark Koplin

Date: 7/6/2021 6:38:00 PM

I love your monoku David. Great job!!

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/7/2021 4:32:00 AM

You must have been an English major. Lol… you’re? Really Keith? Are you sure about that?

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:28:00 AM

Thanks Mark, I see the big, I mean little pretender, has no idea of the meaning of this monoku, but it’s no big surprise, when your blinded by hatred of all things American, cheers David

Arthur Vaso
Date: 7/6/2021 10:26:00 PM

I agree Mark, seems some lack comprehension of the English lanquage.

Sotto Poet

Date: 7/6/2021 4:55:00 PM

I'm not sure how I missed this wonderful Monoku, David. I believe there are no rules for such disdainful acts; for me, as a former army officer, burning a flag is a declaration of war, without a doubt, because even as we strive to establish freedom throughout the world, only those with retarded minds think of doing similarly heinous things. Thanks for sharing David

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:24:00 AM

Hello Lasaad, as ex military you have an excellent understanding of the meaning and symbolism of ones national flag, alongside the burning of it, retarded minds will differ because they have nothing better to offer, than paranoid propaganda, cheers David

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/6/2021 6:37:00 PM

I see you Keith doing a lot of flag burning. All you post is hate for America. You should try your hand at poetry. After all this is a poetry site.

Jenna Logan

Date: 7/6/2021 7:50:00 AM

Some people set their standards based on false information, David. Burning a flag, and using it as a weapon against fellow Americans is disgraceful.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/7/2021 12:38:00 AM

Says he who deals every card from the bottom of the deck, where are your supporters, have you sold them out like the Judas trump, sold out America

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/6/2021 8:12:00 PM

Your “great man” is a bigger liar than 100 like Hillary. Your use of “we” is ludicrous since you’re not American. Keep living in your delusional world. I’m reminded of the phrase…”Ya can’t fix stupid. “ Go play with someone else.

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/6/2021 7:03:00 PM

That's funny, Mark. They're both a joke. I guess he's marking his calendar until Trump is named President in August. That's almost as ridiculous as believing he was ever worthy of being President.

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/6/2021 6:34:00 PM

America needs him about as much as they need you and your childish behavior. At least you have an outfit for Halloween.

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/6/2021 6:00:00 PM

Hi Mark. He can act the part of a bully, but he's all hot air. I think Keith should invite Trump down under so he can tout his MAGA idea there. Make Australia Great Again. He seems to know what a patriot is. I see he's labeled us insects, drawn to his flame. Why is it little men with low self esteem need to elevate their status in life with erroneous boasting?

Mark Koplin
Date: 7/6/2021 5:32:00 PM

I see you are trying to bully women again Keith. I’ll bet Arthur would be disappointed in you.

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/6/2021 9:28:00 AM

lol David. Maybe I should give him the inspirational credit to defend my country. He claims to be a flame thrower...he inflamed my pen.

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/6/2021 9:04:00 AM

Careful Jenna he’ll probably try take all the credit for the inspiration, lol cheers David

David Kavanagh
Date: 7/6/2021 9:00:00 AM

Aye that would indeed be him Jenna, no flame thrower just the same old hot air, gone pretty stale by this point

Jenna Logan
Date: 7/6/2021 8:58:00 AM

You've inspired me to write a poem.