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It was said without full knowledge. We have spent time with him [Ellison] since, to talk about the SOA framework and he has more insight into what it is. We have been able to settle comments [about] how the architecture is not quite right. He said Siebel's architecture is compatible with the Fusion direction. He will be more specific about the role it will play. He [Ellison] has a better handle on what Nexus is today than at OpenWorld.

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