Date: 10/11/2012 8:44:00 AM

The Soup's definition of Tanka (and Haiku, Senryu...) instead of helping just confuse us. We need an update, TPS! ............(Us and We are metaphors! LOL!)

Tim Ryerson Date: 10/11/2012 9:00:00 AM

I'm hearing you Ruben!...please disregard the comment below (I'm an old man and get confused easily)

Tim Ryerson Date: 10/11/2012 8:45:00 AM

Well hello then Sidney!...pleasure to meet you and thanks for setting me straight...

TimRyerson

Date: 10/11/2012 7:50:00 AM

Alright you three!...See me way up here on top looking down at you?...That makes me the mediator and ref and I officially declare this Soup-brawl a draw and a stalemate...I gotta' admit PD... when I first ran across your poems I thought you, Irma Hole and Skat were one and the same but you have since enlightened me...I believe your sister joined a little later? (Ouch!...you didn't have to HIT me did you?)

Tim Ryerson Date: 10/11/2012 8:55:00 AM

Ok, let's see Sydney... how did my comment get up in Ruben's little box...anyway, please refer to the above reply..

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/11/2012 8:35:00 AM

I fortunately have not had the honors of metting you Tim. I Sidney brouhht pd on this Boat ride. I handle the Skat account. I do not like being called Skat. Lol. Just plain Sid or siddy or Sidney

Ruben O.

Date: 10/11/2012 6:38:00 AM

Im sorry, Im late! : ) Let me re-re-read all the comments and sub-comments to understand who's against who...or is all the same "I know You don't know" Vs "I know that I don't know but don't tell me" ...and I just have to change the word Haiku for Tanka? : )

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craigcornish

Date: 10/11/2012 5:38:00 AM

One more thing, That's why I stood up for one of the haiku contest judges, because like some of the tanka judges here it was all with good intention and totally innocent and supposed to be for fun as well as learning---got to go to work....Like Debbie said below if the specific rules of the contest are followed--no harm, no foul.

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craigcornish

Date: 10/11/2012 5:30:00 AM

Continued----I only referred to the past haiku thing because that was a similar event when there were many "haiku" contests going on and someone brought up that they weren't really in the proper form, but all of that happened innocently. Like I said, I have every respect for all and absolutely no intention, as God is my witness to start the turmoil that has ensued so I am very sorry about that----really, really, really, have a great day and I'm sorry if I have offended anyone!!

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craigcornish

Date: 10/11/2012 5:24:00 AM

Holy Cow!! Just got up here and look what happened!! I did not intend to incite anything!! I will not use his name but what I said was sincere like I wrote and If someone feels otherwise they have insecurity issues, I have nothing but respect for that person both intellectually and poetically. I have every respect 100% for anyone's judging, after all, there but for the grace of God go I. I also have every respect for every form because I am a rule guy. Like I once reiterated to another poet here Coach Bear Bryant once said "If it's not whether you win or lose that counts then why do they keep score".

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Poet DestroyerA

Date: 10/10/2012 10:25:00 PM

well, since my sister can not log on right now, cause she's asleep.... she is going to love this in the morning, ... gosh, i feel like that anxious person waiting for daybreak,,I honestly think you 3 poets owe me an apology. For even thinking I had something to do with the comment, coming from my sisters account. My sister & I are nothing alike. I would never call someone here caca. OI! that is not even a word I like using. Charles, you have no right blaming me, just cause you think I have the SKAT account,, that really pisses me off. I barely have time on my own account. I have done nothing to you.

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:48:00 PM

you see my name is on this blog, in which i do not appreciate.. especially when lots has been stricken by my contest running ways. I also do not like DG's comment, where she insults the tanka contest initiated by me. My sister, says CACA C" then a few poets whom have it in for me or had it in for me or have a problem with me,, reacted. lol... now that is funny, well, Here i am getting attacked for something my sister said. I think all 3 of you owe me an apology...

Poet DestroyerA

Date: 10/10/2012 10:23:00 PM

Really people Is it so hard to have a sister on the soup... gee's peeps get a freaking life... You guys are lucky I do not have all my 7 sisters on here,, ((well 2 are resting in peace)) anwyas~ caca c''.. was a funny thing to read... lol.... I do not think she was aiming that at Charles.... lol.... come on Chris, maybe the Caca was for Craig himself for posting this blog,,,, you and Charles and Cindy, must have something in your bone, I can not believe how it tickled you DB-poets... oh,,my I'm laughing at you 3 right now... ha ha.. Craig's name starts with a C,,tttttooooooooooooo..... we.... who's next...

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CYNDIMACMILLAN

Date: 10/10/2012 10:00:00 PM

Uh? Charles and Chris, am I reading you both right? Are you saying that SKAT "IS" PD? I think they are sisters. I am nervous to even ask since any hands going up with questions seem to be getting sliced off with machetes around here. Guys? What say you? PS--Chris I thought you too had buried the hachet? All that nice bandering about with politics? So, the chummy chummy was an act on your part as well? Is anyone here really themselves, messy, fault-filled? Yah Yah shut up, Pollyanna and go sing yahooodooray in whoville. Who will hit me with the first stone?

Chris D. Aechtner Date: 10/10/2012 10:22:00 PM

Well, Craig obviously got wot he wanted from out of this blog. Ha ha! Have to give him major props for that. I find it extremely interesting how everyone else comes off so innocent. No acting involved, right? Pfffft. Wot a joke. Hey, I'll take all of the blame. Seriously, I will. It would be a huge honour, oh innocent ones....

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:18:00 PM

wow..Really CHris, Anyways it is always the same song with you, sadly, Royal will never come back to this site after what happened to this site.. You know what, do not Fu(k with my sister... there's no way for her to get on line right now, she is married and has a life. It is a random day she is here......

Chris D. Aechtner Date: 10/10/2012 10:14:00 PM

I don't care who is who....don't you get it? You are going to put me in my place about wot? Your daughter was on the site first....you and Sidney have accounts here. Wot is the problem?

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:14:00 PM

CYNDI, I do not care what these poets say, ha,, i love my sister having my back anytime..... it is funny, ho they can talk crap about me always, and yet, when someone defends me they get their panties in a twist... well, Nathan, has very much met Sidney, and tells me we are nothing alike,,, she really has no compassion,,, and she will step up any time... and guess what, she is the one who came on to this blog, i was in the middle of shopping when she told me to log on to the soup... it took me until i got home to log, on,

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:11:00 PM

Sorry, those comments are for CHARLES, CYNDI... PLEASE DO NOT THINK THEY ARE FOR YOU

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:10:00 PM

I do not care. Please do not come off as if you know me, or we associate. You are nothing and no one to me. For all of yaws information, she is the one who brought me on to the soup. ha ha ha... Royal was on the soup way before I was. maybe not under her name, but she was here posting poems, and commenting. My sister and Royal brought me on board. They told me I should sign up for the soup.. SO i took a look at it and my x-fiance created the PD account. Anyways, I am not my sister, i like keeping my tone on hold down. Until i'm called out like this. I wish I could post a blog right now... I wish she would give me the pass word, so i can post a blog. and put you and Chris, in yaws place.

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:10:00 PM

Charles, here we go again. First of all, I have no access to the SKat account. I had it a few times before Nathan and I got together. My sister and I would play around on the soup.(no secret) that account belongs to my sister way before I was here on the soup. I have been on it many times, the last time was sometime last year. You know nothing of me. If she wants to have fun with that pm, let her... It is paid for

Chris D. Aechtner Date: 10/10/2012 10:07:00 PM

SKAT is supposedly: Sidney Lee, and PD is Irma Hole. Two different people, right? I was referring to who was actually running wot account at any present time. No, the "chummy-chummy" was me actually being sincere, Cyndi. I am not going to throw back a stone. Remember "Peanut Gallery"? That poem was inspired by the very haiku debacle highlighted in this blog. Goodness, wot deja vu I am having right now.

CharlesHenderson

Date: 10/10/2012 9:40:00 PM

PD, everyone knows how many accounts you have on the soup. After you wrote me two soup mails in the last week, asking for help in understanding how to write haiku, how could you call me caca C. Especially after I responded in a positive way without even so much as a hint of a snide remark. Believe me I will remember this blog for a long time.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 8:30:00 AM

I dont know who's Caca C... I just like the alliteration! LOL!

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:35:00 PM

You said PD,((please Charles)) get your facts straight, my sister and I are 2 different girls, with different likes,, well we do have lots in common,,, and I'm the one who suggested the tankas. I run many contest with and through her.... by the way I'm not one who likes picking on old folks..unless needed

Chris D. Aechtner Date: 10/10/2012 9:56:00 PM

Chas, as I understand it, the "caca C" was aimed at me. I am fine with it; didn't react with my own immature name-calling. The real beef for me here is Craig purposefully and craftily putting together this blog in such a way that it included the past "haiku incident"(with names and all). He will deny trying to incite people. Hey, in the end, you were very civil concerning the whole debacle. I respect you for the way that you handled the situation.

Chris D.Aechtner

Date: 10/10/2012 9:29:00 PM

**Cont'd** -- Craig, if you meant a different Chris, in this blog, could you possibly clarify this by adding a surname. I can't stop you from using my name in blogs(it's your right to), I am asking for you to stop using my name in blogs. Thank you. Over and over again, you have proven yourself to be very manipulative. I hope this blog was worth it for you. Oh, while I am at it, I don't want your publicly polite comments. You can appear insincerely civil in public; I don't buy into it. You've been gunning for me since April. Remember? You actually think I am that naive? As I said, I hope this blog was worth it. The irony of it all is, I am more loyal than all of your cheerleaders put together....and possibly even more compatible. But you keep drawing lines -- so I am closing this door, keeping others open; and opening even newer doors.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 8:22:00 AM

Chris Tucker, Chris Pine, Chris Rock, Chris Matthews, Chris Cooper, Chris Elliott, Chris Farley, Chris Isaak...Which one? : ) I think it was you, Mr. Aechtner!

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:31:00 PM

now you know how i feel when poets use my name on blogs, without positive feedback...

Chris D.Aechtner

Date: 10/10/2012 9:10:00 PM

*Cont'd* -- "caca C" - that's a good one SKAT. Both you and Craig had your beef with me to begin with. Craig attacked and attacked before I eventually began defending myself against him. And you, SKAT? I defended you against how many people? I've lost count. I used to enter both PD's and your contests(it all gets a bit confusing after time -- wot with all the accounts; who was who, when!?). I entered for fun. If it was haiku, I wrote 'fun' haiku. I had fun writing those krazy 'ku. Contests here are for fun. I get it! I understand! I don't think that just because someone follows tons of rules, this makes for good poetry. I have never thought that. I don't have expectations of people liking my amateur poetry. Regardless, I will continue writing, even if only 2 people end-up enjoying my work.

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:29:00 PM

and you are right my sister hates the shit out of you, and others,,, I just want you to know this, i have nothing against you,, if i do i will tell you on the spot,,, i do not like keeping my mouth shut. and as for that STANDING up theme... la la la... I pretty much have defended you and talked about you to other poets... oh! what you want me to lie to you. well I am not. i have defended you and talked about you... so what if you know

Chris D.Aechtner

Date: 10/10/2012 9:07:00 PM

My spidey-sense went off; figured my name was involved in some sort of drama again. Well, this is deja vu. Craig, intriguing how you included the names of: Charles, PD and myself, coupled with the subjects of tanka and haiku....but you attempted to mask your true intentions with an under-handed, polite remark about my formless free ways. The crafty way this blog was set up(and you can deny it a thousand times. It takes one to know one lol!)was meant to incite certain individuals. I might be dumb, but I am not THAT dumb. Your point is moot. 5 sponsors asked for 5-7-5-7-7 Soup-style verse, which you delivered. So wot's the problem? Is there even a problem for you?

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 8:14:00 AM

Waaaaaaaaaa Hahahahhahaha! That's a good one, Spider man!

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 10:26:00 PM

Chris, first of all i had nothing to do with what my sister said.

JoannGrisetti

Date: 10/10/2012 8:42:00 PM

Craig, Translating any language is difficult, so write your tanka and enjoy.

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S.K. A. T.

Date: 10/10/2012 6:48:00 PM

It's a sad world you wanna be poets live in. Just for once losen up or ignore the fact that your righteous poems are not our taste. Omg' all of this because some idiot did not place with his haiku in an old contest. So what'! If your ture form of haiku or tanka did not place. Maybe it suXed. You think cuz you followed every single rule to tanka. You will get placed. People people this is only a contest. Nothing wrong in having tanka fun. You are taking it overboard.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 8:13:00 AM

I feel you tense, Skat. : )

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 6:55:00 PM

This comment is regarding towards a comment removed. One In which insulted the inspiration on what my sister accomplished. No one has the right trying to Drag pd's way around here. You missed the comment. Like I said' once you see the results' than talk the cr@p you want

S.K. A. T.

Date: 10/10/2012 6:26:00 PM

Debbie g. You talk 2 much crap. We have not even graded a contest. And here you are insulting those who stand behind your pathetic ways. For your freaking information pd has been studying the form through suzettes blog. And you know nothing of Nathan And I. or that chick Sandy... Nathan for one is a strict judge. With morals and rules. Like I said shut your pie ho' let us grade than you and that caca boy C. Can talk all the crap you want. SIDDY freaking M.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 8:03:00 AM

Who's Siddy? Who's C? Who's M? Who's Ruben? LOL!

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 7:35:00 PM

by the way Cidny. me and my sister say FREAKING' when we do not wat to say the other f word... lol..I like FUDGE better..

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 7:33:00 PM

Well Cindy, as you can see I'm not the mad cow one....LOL..... but,,i will give my reaction soon

CYNDI MACMILLAN Date: 10/10/2012 7:22:00 PM

Hey, Skat, we all have our... er?...achilles heal, right? Our poetry thing, the one that is special to us? I've butted heads here too, but mostly I do try to keep the peace, really, truly... I try to see all sides, if and when I can. I like all the contests and have no beef with the judging. Sorry if I only added to the problem. Peace out! :)

CYNDI MACMILLAN Date: 10/10/2012 7:18:00 PM

Who is "SIDDY FREAKING M" Sorry, Some people here have accidentally called me Siddy instead of Cyndi... so Siddy was not addressing me? Are YOU Siddy? Oops, sorry, if you were.

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 7:13:00 PM

Please Cindy. No one is barking at you. Is your name even Debbie once again

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 7:11:00 PM

Is your name debbie. She thinks she's so high rated. She sat there with insults towards contest that have not even been graded. This is perfectly aimed at her. And caca C. Is not you.

CYNDI MACMILLAN Date: 10/10/2012 7:09:00 PM

As Ruben would say, HUH? Am I the "freaking M?" All I did was say that poetry should be freely created by the poet! Joy for one and all! Was that point misunderstood? I came in peace... why shoot darts my way? I have and do support all the judges here. Ask your sis! I had her back at one point. I know your riled, but watch the aim, please!

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 6:57:00 PM

The comment this was aiming has been removed. Still I stand strong on this.

DebbieGuzzi

Date: 10/10/2012 6:00:00 PM

As always such a smart man, I had not know about that pivot point thing in tanka, in haiku the similiar vehicle which achieves this shift is called a "kireji" or cutting word, which cuts the poem into two parts. I am not sure what you think you did 'wrong' Craig [I probably did it wrong too!]

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/11/2012 8:25:00 AM

Ruben ruben. The whole thing about us not caring is the insult itself. Not the rest of the comment. She does not know me. She does not know Nathan or the other poets like Leonora or SandeI. Who also have tanak contest. I'm very much a strict judge when needed. I'm no wuzzy like PD. I do not have a soft spot for others the way she does.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 7:43:00 AM

Cyndi....Regarding Oranges.... LOL!

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 7:41:00 AM

Skat, if you sponsor a contest asking for oranges, and people just submit tangerines... you still can choose which is the best tangerine...after all, they're fruits...and citrus! : ) ...........BUT......not oranges!

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 7:32:00 AM

Skat, if you "care a wit," instead of the "easy" insult, why you dont explain your judging standards to Deborah? Im sure she will be glad to learn something new and she wont hesitate to ask for an apology.

Ruben O. Date: 10/11/2012 7:07:00 AM

OK...here is where the fun starts ..."don't care a wit" was a polite remark; it was NOT an insult. We know that there are "strict" sponsors on one side and "let's have fun" sponsors on the other side. I like both kinds... Why you (Skat) felt offended?

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 8:07:00 PM

You know this is why Suzette, was honored to help us out, .. i knew I would pick up more sense from her.

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 8:05:00 PM

LOL, siddy if you look below you, the comment it is still there, wow... DG... really... I'm just now reading, (((who don't care a wit what rules are))) <----lol,,, please.... wow,,, this is the second time some big ass wanna be, opens there mouth about our judging, sometimes poets like you think with both shoes in your mouth...

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 6:50:00 PM

Thank you for removing your insulting comment. Lady.

S. K. A. T. Date: 10/10/2012 6:33:00 PM

I do not see why pd even likes you. I for one do not like the way you degraded our judging. Your need another drink. Can't wait to fill my sis in..........

Debbie Guzzi Date: 10/10/2012 6:02:00 PM

Craig also there are quite a few tanka contests going who don't care a wit what rules are followed except the syllable count..so put the ones you think didn't make it for the strict contest into the other contests?

CYNDIMACMILLAN

Date: 10/10/2012 4:22:00 PM

I say, allow the poet to create what they wish. If it is only for themselves or a few that it may touch, then it is enough. But I admire and respect those who choose to stretch themselves, master a form, & live and breath its nuances. Poetry is roomy enough for everyone, Classy. I still swoon over the dead poets, the craft and adherence to the 'box.' But I also adore the ones who tipped the box, the beat poets and such who said, "I'm ready to poke holes through the sheet" I am not certain whether I have found my true poetic voice yet, oh, but I feel most 'myself' when I write mod sonnets. I can stretch, but subtly trace old blueprints. Words - language- mean everything to me. xox hugs Sassy

Poet Destroyer A Date: 10/10/2012 8:08:00 PM

Cyndi, i love the way you express yourself always...pd

craig cornish Date: 10/10/2012 5:10:00 PM

Cyndi, Your comments are often poetic--"but subtly trace old blueprints", btw, don't "find" yourself, because the search is truly the most rewarding, innocent, and huggable form of life and to get there, you might dreadfully be described as sophisticated, to have truly reached the apex of society, when in truth you would only be a complicated fake. Somehow, I chuckle, I don't see you in that role!! Love Ya!! Thanks Sassy! As Always, "A slice of heaven"!

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