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A Gentle Reminder


Blog Posted:9/14/2012 11:32:00 AM
Hi All! :) As you know I am holding a Metaphor contest at this time. Most of the entries I've received are not written in metaphore, but in SIMILES. Let me explain the difference. I am using an old college handbook called "Keys for Writers" written by Ann Raimes.

A
metaphor is an implied comparison, with no like or as.
A
similie is a comparison with two sides stated, by using the word like or as.

Examples:

She was as innocent
as a lamb, unprepared for the slaughter. (Simile)
She was like an innocent lamb, unprepared for the slaughter. (Simile)
She, an innocent lamb, was unprepared for the slaughter. (Metaphor)

 I have also heard that some poets re confusing PERSONIFICATION with metaphor. A Personification is "description of a thing as person."

Example:

"rosy-fingered dawn"

I hope I have made this easy to understand. If your entry into my contest contains the words
like this, or like that, then you are not using metaphors, but similes. Poems using similes will not place in this contest which is for poems using metaphor. It wouldn't be fair to those who are using metaphor, and you can bet there are many people here at the soup who knows the difference between metaphor and simile. I hope I have not came on too strong, this was meant to only be a gentle reminder. there is still lots of time to edit your entries. Love to all, Catie :)
Please let me know if you are going to go back and do some editing to your entry, so I can go back and give it another view. Thanks!
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  1. Date: 9/16/2012 4:10:00 PM
    i will have to check out your contest, but amnot too good at metaphor. They all sound cliche.

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    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 6:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I know you could come up with something really awesome, Joann. I hope you do enter. hugs, Catie :)
  1. Date: 9/16/2012 9:07:00 AM
    It's so easy if they just remember never to use words like "like" or "as" Just to talk as if their object truly is that other thing it is represented by!! I hope your blog helped them, Catie.

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    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 9:15:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Exactly! and i just want to say that for this contest. personification is just fine IF it is written in metaphor, but IF it is written in simile, it will be disqualified.
  1. Date: 9/16/2012 8:27:00 AM
    Please check this web address for the difference between a metaphor and a simile. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_simile_and_a_metaphor

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    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 8:45:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    this one also clarifies things, scroll down to the Instructions and read....http://www.ehow.com/how_6383387_write-simile-metaphor-poem.html
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 8:34:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    another link to check out...http://knowgramming.com/metaphors/metaphor_and_simile_difference.htm
  1. Date: 9/16/2012 8:17:00 AM
    hmmm....how to write a metaphor??? that is the question. What are the basic rules to writing a metaphor, vs. a simile. Many entries into my contest are done using similes, instead of metaphor, and none at all are using personification, that was just to clear up an issue. please look for how to write a simile, and how to write a metaphor. What are the basic rules?

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    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 8:48:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    yes, similes can be metaphor, but this contest is not for similes, it's for metaphor. Know the difference in writing them, that's the point.
  1. Date: 9/16/2012 8:13:00 AM
    the issue, is not what a personification is, nor what a metaphor is, but HOW TO WRITE THEM.....

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  1. Date: 9/15/2012 11:04:00 PM
    AT LAST. I found a website that agrees with me. HEre is the address of it: http://www.triadwriters.org/Personification.html and here is the title quote: Personification is a kind of metaphor, by which an abstraction or inanimate object is endowed with personality.

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    Dietrich Avatar Andrea Dietrich Date: 9/16/2012 9:05:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    yes, suzette, I understand all that. I had been speaking generally from the beginning and not technically. You and CHarles know your stuff!
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/16/2012 8:46:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    yes, personification can be metaphor, it's all in how it's written.
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 9/16/2012 7:25:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yes, as per the definition I had posted here (second from the bottom of the comments feed). But, there is a distinctive difference: It is a "kind of metaphor" - not a metaphor parse. It is where an inanimate object is bestowed.... see me comments to your comments below. [It is like saying a sonnet and a 14 line stanza are the same. A sonnet is a 14 line stanza with certain rules; but a 14 line stanza/poem is not necessarily a sonnet.]
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 9/16/2012 12:45:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Thanks for the response....im going to check this site....>
  1. Date: 9/15/2012 10:53:00 PM
    sorry if I got things wrong the first time. Even with this definition I found below, it is still confusing to me since a rose is a rose is a rose, and a comparison is a comparison is a comparison. For me, personification remains a type of metaphor meaning a comparison of unequal things! I guess it makes for an interesting debate, and I understand what you guys are saying, but I hope you get what I was trying to say.

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    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 9/16/2012 7:18:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Continued: As well as "crying crocodile tears" is neither a Metaphor, nor a Personification. It stems from the ancient believe that crocodiles wept while devouring its victim. There is certainly more than what meets the eye here.... ;-)
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 9/16/2012 7:17:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The example I recall from way back when: "The golden dawn rays* licked the rosy **apples on her young body." *Personification, ** Metaphor. Ie If an in-animated object is bestowed with human/animal characteristics, then it is a PERSONification (the answer lies in the word itself). "A glaring error" = an example of a metaphor. An "error" cannot "glare", but it is NOT a Personification, because "error" is not an in-animated OBJECT.
  1. Date: 9/15/2012 10:43:00 PM
    catie, I like this little thing I just found online. It's called BEST answer to explain difference between metaphor and personification and I was glad I found this because I still have a doubt that I think can never be resolved: a metaphor compares a person to a thing (which may be anything, including another person) a personification compares a thing (which is not a person) to a person (which may be real or fictional)

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    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 9/16/2012 7:02:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    This has always been my understanding as well, Andrea - it has been a while since my college prof. tried to drum the rules into us :-)
  1. Date: 9/14/2012 9:43:00 PM
    Personification ...a metaphor????? Houston....we have a problem! : )

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    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/15/2012 5:42:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    although.... I think you could combine them into one sentence, if you said "the angry chair (personification) is a constant complaint (metaphor.) HA! :)
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/15/2012 5:02:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hey, Ruben! Always nice to hear from you. Forget about the personification as metaphor. I was just trying to clear it up for some folks who were calling metaphor personification. Yeah, that old chair IS a constant complaint, and a very good metaphor. HA! hugs, Catie :)
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 9/14/2012 10:04:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    By the way, the metaphor I used as an example is...horrible! : )
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 9/14/2012 9:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Personification is the attribution of human characteristics to things... we can say "the old chair complains angrily..." If we want to use a metaphor...we can say that "the old chair is a constant complain"....
  1. Date: 9/14/2012 7:18:00 PM
    Ande, I have never seen any where that personification is metaphor. Personification is a separate literary device from metaphor. Absolute metaphor: Separated subject and vehicle. Active metaphor: New and not stablished. Complex metaphor: Multi-layered. Compound metaphor: With many parts. Dead metaphor: Normal language, no longer recognized as metaphor. Dormant metaphor: Weak connection between vehicle and subject. This is only about half of them but saw no point in listing all. Sometime back I ran across what I thought was an odd statement. That haiku uses absolute metaphor because by the time the juxtaposition takes place the original comprehension is no longer there. This is a form of absoulute metaphor and as such by definition of haiku, the haiku itself is a metaphor. I could see some form of personification, if done in the same figurative manner, it could be called a metaphoric example but the personification in itself is still only personification, not metaphor. If you will put on a few of the links you have found I would like to see what they say about the subject. This is not the first time I have run into this and as yet have not found any difinitive statement that personnification is a form of metaphor.

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  1. Date: 9/14/2012 3:24:00 PM
    catie,I certainly hope the poets here understand the difference between simile and metaphor. I have not had time to try your contest, so just speaking generally here, I kind of take exception to what you said about confusing personification with metaphor. Essentially, if one were to use personification, they would be within the rules of your contest because personification is a TYPE of metaphor. Are you saying you would not allow personification in your contest (even if it's called a type of metaphor from websites where I double checked?) Just curious where you stand on that one. Personification is my favorite type of metaphor. Luv, Andrea

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    Dietrich Avatar Andrea Dietrich Date: 9/15/2012 10:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ok, that was good how you said it in the bottom box. personification when used as metaphor. it's too dang complicated for me to look it up again!!
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/14/2012 4:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    the issue with personification, is that some folks were saying that the metaphors were not metaphors, but personification. so... hope that clears it up. hugs, Catie :)
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/14/2012 4:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Personification is just fine in my contest, when used as metaphor. Thanks for reading, Andrea. Hope you have write something for this one. hugs, Catie :)
  1. Date: 9/14/2012 3:04:00 PM
    Metaphor (n) 1. IMPLICATED COMPARISON: The use to describe somebody or something of a word or phrase that is not meant literally but by means of a vivid comparison expresses something about him, her, or it. Eg saying that someone is a snake. 2. FIGURATIVE LANGUAGE: All language that involves figures of speech or symbolism and does not literally represent real things. 3. SYMBOL: One thing used or considered to represent another. [Per the Encarta Dictionary: English (North American]. I hope that the above explanation of what a metaphor is, is acceptable, because that is my understanding as well. Thank you for a fun challenge. Love, Su

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    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 9/15/2012 5:00:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    This is the interpretation which is at my disposal - per the Internet. I do not have access to the text book that you are referring to (our resources in South Africa do not extend to American English - we use British English in South Africa).
    Lindsey Avatar Catie Lindsey Date: 9/14/2012 4:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    and this... is why I did not use a definition from the dictionary. It is too general. Look it up in an english textbook. hugs, Catie :)

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