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Never would I have thought I would start
writing at 73 years of age. I have thoroughly enjoyed my voyage into the written spirituality of poetry and am thankful for the opportunity.  In my six years here I have met many new and wonderful persons. Having them accept me as a friend has been a moving experience.
               
    

     


Please Get Interested in Learning Haiku


Blog Posted:11/6/2012 1:56:00 PM
I am so thrilled to see so many new names on the soup writing Haiku poetry. On the home page down about middle ways is a link to various kinds of poem, including Haiku. When I pulled that up, 50 poems posted yesterday (the 5th) were there. I read all 50 and I must say that very few are even close to Haiku. Though I applaude the effort and intent which many of you made I only saw 7 poets whose poem was Haiku. They were, Yazmin, Sandra, Torente, Debbie, Robert, Elizondo and Cynthia. Forgive me if I missed your's, as I was scribbling while I read. If you posted a Haiku yesterday and are interested in whether or not I considered it Haiku, please soup mail me or email at cghenderso@msn.com. If you will include your poem/s which you posted, in the soup mail or email I will give you my reasons why I do not consider that it is Haiku. Anyone interested in learning how to write Haiku period, whether or not you posted one of those yesterday, I will be glad to give you my attention. Like anyone else who knows how to write it, I do not always write good Haiku. However, usually after it sits and stews for a couple of days, I can spot what is wrong with it. One of my pet peeves is anyone who comments to a poor haiku and brags or compliments the poet on how good it is, really is doing a dis-service to the poet writing the poem. It gives them a false sense of knowing what they are doing and UNLEARNING a form is very hard. One huge problem is that many of the people reading it do not truly know the form. Correcting that is the reason for this blog. Even though I have seen comments about beating Haiku to death on the blogs, I do not feel like giving up as long as less than 15 per cent of the poems posted are really Haiku. My goal is for 85 per cent of you who wish to write it, to know how.
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  1. Date: 11/7/2012 2:02:00 PM
    These notes are from: Haiku Society of America www.hsa-haiku.org/archives/HSA_Definitions_2004.html....... So, we can keep on complaining that our Yorkshire Puddings come out like biscuits, or try the old tried and tested recipe/method. Love & Peace, Su

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    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 11/7/2012 2:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    For more advanced reading: http://www.ahapoetry.com/keirule.htm
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 11/7/2012 2:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    A helpful site, if you are starting out writing haiku: http://www.inzenity.org/mythku/how2ku.htm
  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:54:00 PM
    Most haiku have no titles, and metaphors and similes are commonly avoided. (Haiku do sometimes have brief prefatory notes, usually specifying the setting or similar facts; metaphors and similes in the simple sense of these terms do sometimes occur, but not frequently. A discussion of what might be called "deep metaphor" or symbolism in haiku is beyond the range of a definition. Various kinds of "pseudohaiku" have also arisen in recent years ("senryu")

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  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:53:00 PM
    Traditional Japanese haiku include a "season word" (kigo), a word or phrase that helps identify the season of the experience recorded in the poem, and a "cutting word" (kireji), a sort of spoken punctuation that marks a pause or gives emphasis to one part of the poem. In English, season words are sometimes omitted, but the original focus on experience captured in clear images continues. The most common technique is juxtaposing two images or ideas (Japanese rensô). Punctuation, space, a line-break, or a grammatical break may substitute for a cutting word. (Seasons: the 4 seasons as we know it PLUS New Year)

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  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:52:00 PM
    HAIKU Definition: A haiku is a short poem that uses imagistic language to convey the essence of an experience of nature or the season intuitively linked to the human condition. Notes: Most haiku in English consist of three unrhymed lines of seventeen or fewer syllables, with the middle line longest, though today's poets use a variety of line lengths and arrangements. In Japanese a typical haiku has seventeen "sounds" (on) arranged five, seven, and five. (Some translators of Japanese poetry have noted that about twelve syllables in English approximates the duration of seventeen Japanese on.)

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  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:01:00 PM
    A good haiku will really do. North to south and east to west. Haiku will pass every test. They are fun to write that is the test. So stay in form and do your best.

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  1. Date: 11/7/2012 8:05:00 AM
    I haven't written haiku in quite some time now. Here is a haiku that I thought-up today. It could almost lean towards senryu, because of a touch of possible social satire, but for me it is haiku, regardless of non-existent kigo, etc: walking past, his pot-belly jiggles/to the scent of ale -- CDA -- Alright, cut it up.

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    Guzzi Avatar Debbie Guzzi Date: 11/7/2012 11:20:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    don't know you need the [to] in line 3? can you jiggle to a scent?
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 9:36:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    very good to me Chris. Better than most of mine. two parts -- a guy drinking who is walking )) juxt to his belly jiggling.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 11/7/2012 8:12:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I have come to a point in my journey, unless the 10 to 15 syllables of short prose are a blatant slap of humour or sarcasm, the short prose of mine will be labelled as haiku, not senryu(even though it is short prose; unless there are enough poetic devices to warrant it being labelled as free verse).
  1. Date: 11/7/2012 5:25:00 AM
    I encourage all, forever....endlessly, not my job to tell them how to write....if they saw beauty and feel more connected to the universe, I am content...from the land of the wolf.....jimbo

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 12:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    "[to] find feelings they didn't know how to express." Awesome!
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 9:49:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'm only encouraging all to go beyond themselve Jimbo, and find feelings they didn't know how to express. Haiku done correctly can do this. I applaude all your attention and dedication to poetry.
  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:44:00 AM
    We have had this discussion every few months on PS over the years.The reality is there are three types of haiku...the original in Japanese...translation of those haiku into English...Western (inc English language) style haiku.With regard to the latter there are no exact 'rules' ..this is poetry. One either likes the three lines or not. How they are labelled here is something for PS team still to address.

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 1:26:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I went an HSA weekend semiar recently and identification of haiku was paramount in the three two hour discussions we had. Without some kind of guidline the japanese will be laughing much harder than now at our attempts to emmulate their poetry, no matter how much freedom is preached. I feel it is up to us to critique ourselves not PS. Haiku is much larger than any website.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 12:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Thanks for visiting us, Master! : ) I agree with you and I like the traditional "way" of writing haiku. I think that with critique and /or advising we can become better writers (or just a writer, in my case).
    Grisetti Avatar Joann Grisetti Date: 11/7/2012 7:33:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Very good comment. I do not like most of "modern" haiku - I am a traditionalist. But would not criticize another poet.
  1. Date: 11/7/2012 1:29:00 AM
    There are different schools of haiku and it is up to you to choose which one you wish to adhere to - some rules may be contradictory. I personally favour the Zen philosophy (which had given rise to haiku). If you have submitted work to Frogpond (the name is based on one of Basho's haiku), then you would have noticed that they do have different categories. Advice which was given to me: The Zen (haiku) moment is that point in time when you have noted something, and before the ego clouds the scene. Hence, no personal nouns, no adverbs and no gerunds or puns. Haiku is a personal matter and I applaud Charles and other's attempt to give a helping hand. It is up to us to take it or leave it. <3 Su

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 12:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I mean, Im not following that rule!
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 12:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I would like to hear more about no adverbs and no gerunds...I've never heard about that rule...and I think Im using it.
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 11/7/2012 1:34:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    To be at peace with the scene and not to interpret it - a fiery discussion is in essence contra-haiku :-)
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 10:32:00 PM
    Ok...a metaphor: A haiku without the "Aha" moment that happens when two disparate things are placed side by side, each commenting on the other ...is a computer without Internet! : )

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 12:06:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I like it.
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 11/7/2012 3:41:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ruben "Franklin" flying the kite/ bringing us the much needed light./Tripping over crossed wires./No longer issue that tires./The written word is still all might.
    Richards Avatar Suzette Richards Date: 11/7/2012 3:31:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :-)))
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 9:42:00 PM
    PD, My edited version of this blog: "Hi all Soupers, I would like to invite all poets who are interested in tradional haiku to a blog/workshop where I will showcase a variety of published haiku and outline what makes them traditonal, the required elements for traditional Japanese haiku. You are welcome to bring your own haiku to this blog, if you believe that your haiku needs help. Though I too am learning, I have a marvelous instructor who is well known in the haiku circles. Traditional haiku is my passion and I would love to discuss its form and craft with those who feel the same. Wishing everyone happy writing...

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 9:20:00 PM
    The hospice nurse / weeps for the dying girl / in pulp fiction By Cyndi MacMillan

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 1:04:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    the reason for no title is it unfairly gives more syllables to explain the haiku. So to title is to fudge or cheat a little bit. On soup if you use words that are in the haiku to title it then you will not be adding syllables to the poem.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 12:17:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    to P.D. I did look at your string. The top 2 are good haiku. The bottom two are not haiku. They each have 3 parts. btw you continue to say haikus. Plural of haiku is haiku. Also haiku do not have titles as you did inside string. To title to post on soup you should use any words in your poem as they are written.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 12:07:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    implied comma at end of line 2 seems to be the cut. juxt from weeping hospice nurse to pulp fiction. two parts.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 9:46:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Okay, I'm going to take a quick looksie, then I NEED to go to bed. My girl's internal clock did NOT change (@!#$%) and I'm feeling pooped. LOL.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 9:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I know. I know. Really. I do get why you're cheesed. I am beginning to think that communication is a big problem here on soup. There is what we say. Then there is what we MEANT to say. Then there is what we WANT to say but don't. Then there is the DAMMIT why DID I say THAT? At least this is true for me :)
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi, I know that it was not meant to offend,,, Hey, but it does..., I read all them poems the other day, and more then 7 poets had smoking hot haikus...
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 8:56:00 PM
    "In Kama Sutra//torticollis' prescription// marks a stop" 8 )

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    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:39:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ruben,,, no! no!
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I like Catie's first comment... I have not been into haiku, a long while now. I finally decided to post one, that I thought can be a haiku.. LOL... all I know is that i love the form, and I love reading what poets count as 5*7*5 ....
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yes, Cyndi, maybe you should edit this blog in a more clever and genius way. one that will not insult the little poets like me...
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    If you guys do not see it that way it's cuz you, do not have a haiku on that page he's talking about, or your name is above, with the poets who he claims WAS HAIKU. The same way many of you think of me as a joke.. I laugh at you too...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 9:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I like all haiku... high-ku, My-ku, Ku-ku. I think I'd like to edit this blog, I think that if I could rephrase what was written, it would sound a lot different and have been better received.
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am glad he is offering poets help, if they want to learn,,, but why blog something that points out names, and insults the others who are not asking for his opinion. Aren't we all amateur poets.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 9:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hey, PD, I think this really just stems from ... hmmm... a want of helping, but a struggle on how to offer it. Despite my 10,000 comments on this blog, I don't think the intent was as "off" as it seems, at first glance. .
    A   Avatar Poet Destroyer A Date: 11/6/2012 9:19:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    This is the perfect way to add more discomfort to haikus here on the soup. I am no haiku expert nor do I want 2 be, but this blog is beyond discouraging. I was directed by another fellow poet 2 come and read this blog, about an hour ago. I find it very insulting. Who is he, 2 post this blog without knowing he is offending the other poets listed from these so called 50 poems, In his own pa___ic way. I really find this blog very offensive. I posted a poem that other day, in which he is claiming is not a haiku. Fine if it is or is not... It pisses me off that this man, could not find another way to diss the little poets like me, by saying we do not average to his standards, and we need should seek him out for the real knowledge of haikus. This blog is offending poets like me who posted under haiku the other day. I have every right to say something, after all my so called (not) haiku is on that list.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 9:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Me TIRED! I do think tradional haiku should be preserved, despite my scuffing dust at the umpire. It's just that what I enjoy reading has more... hmmm... flow? I like one liners (all lines are grammatically connected) that bridge TWO different concepts to create ONE concrete moment. I do think learning the variances is a good idea. We just need to agree that there ARE variances. Sheesh!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 8:10:00 PM
    orioles insist/ there must be music/ for my reverie/ Joan Vistain, Antioch, Illinois/ Published by the HSA in Frogpond Magazine (Um, how do birds insist? Isn't that subjective? A one line subjective haiku published by Frogpond. )

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:42:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyn, The one liners are not really one liners. They usuall have an implied comma at the point of the cut. Just like the orioles insist, there is an obvious implied comma there. So that makes it a normal short phrase and two combined short phrases gramatically connected. not one long phrase through the cut.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    At first appears subjective but is objective. A noisy bird very concrete. trying to sleep also concrete. Traditional two part juxt from loud birds to someone dozing.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 8:07:00 PM
    burnt toast on the floor/ jam on the spoon/ last memory of grandpa/ Scott J. Kirshenbaum, Chicago, Illinois Published by HSA, Frogpond (please show me how these three sentences are gramatically linked)

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    two parts=At first glance this seems to be 3 parts but there is an implied comma at end of line 1, so the cut is at end of line 2 which is end of part one. line 3 is 2nd part juxt from 1 and 2. again the truth of line 1 and 2 is only revealed after reading line 3. very subjectively modern. The writer put himself into the poem.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 8:01:00 PM
    one by one/ a son carries out/ the contents of her life/ Robert Epstein, California Published by HSA, IN FROGPOND

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I would have to say this is cross over from tradition to modern. One by one seems subjective but contents are objective. But when one by one is id'd it becomes objective. Weird
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    two parts ---part 1 visual part 2 (lines 2 and 3 are also visual) Very unusual. The cut has to be after line 1 yet you do not know what line 1 is until you read the rest of the poem. Highly unusual, but have seen it discussed before.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:54:00 PM
    the nature trail/ disappearing into/ his loud complaints/written by Robert Epstein, California PUBLISHED BY HSA, IN FROGPOND

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    2 parts part 1 nature trail visual/ part 2 disappear into complaints (sound)
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:33:00 PM
    The rabbit I meet/ remains as still/ as the air we breathe (really happened this weekend) Cyndi MacMillan

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    two parts part 1 visual (still rabbit) part 2 the still air. Juxt from the rabbit to the air.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 7:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    AWK. GOOD CATCH! LOL. Thanks. I really enjoyed this encounter. I live in an apartment, but the building has a creek behind it. I walked to the store (something I seldon get to do on my own) no hint of wind, cold, and I almost step on a rabbit. It just stays there and looks at me. We both stayed there like that for a good 5 mins. It was nice.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:28:00 PM
    One rose wept/as she touched the cool silk/of his casket Cyndi MacMillan

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 11:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Two parts the rose wept and the casket. Two visual perception juxt from the rose to the silk casket.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:20:00 PM
    The bed sheet/ leaves the laundry line/to follow the breeze Cyndi MacMillan

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    two parts Katie: A visual bed sheet #1 and "leaves the laundry etc. =part @2' another visual sensory perception.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:14:00 PM
    just for fun / people an age I once was/ run up the mountain.... Frogpond, published by HSA

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:13:00 PM
    you do know that even if one actually has written a haiku to the simplist criteria..that doesn't make it a good haiku or a good poem...haiku//2 parts/showing [ie sensory input] not telling [ie opinions & imaginings] IN 'the moment' [PRESENT TENSE]is not TOO much to ask geeezzz louise

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'll drink to that. Think I will refresh my scotch. Carolyn made some bxxxxing home made veggie soup tonight. Wow, I can hardly breathe.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:48:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Had to leave to watch election for a few mins back there. Cyn please see my comment below on the two part --late oak ku.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hello, Deborah! We were waiting for you! : )
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 7:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Have you read or enjoyed any of Kerouac?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 7:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I agree that even haiku that is written in its tradional format can fall flat. Just like a free verse can lack oomph or verse can loose its flow or any poem can lack a beginning, a middle and an end. All poetry can either leave the reader content or disatisfied. HI THERE :)
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:11:00 PM
    a late oak leafs out her first word -----------Frogpond, published by HSA

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 1:21:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Just noticed your comments. It means in the spring the tree is late leafing out. It is still bare and others have buds. "Word" a metaphore for leaves. Moden haiku tends to favor metaphore in spite of stated opinions otherwise.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    a late oak=part one leafs out her first word=part 2 juxt from bare tree to one with sprigs.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 7:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    LOL. Really, me neither. Though, I think it refers to the sound of the last leaves, the rustle?
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I dont get it!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 7:05:00 PM
    Okay, now I am REALLY confused. Charles, some time ago you told me that Frogpond publishes anything ... your point of view... considering the amount of submissions they get, and the number they actually publish, I disagree with this point. BUT now I see that Frogpond is published BY THE HSA?? Okay, so according to your statements in the comments of this blog, if I find even ONE haiku in the Frogpond which is written in one part then ??? Cause I'll find one. Betcha 10 nickles that I'll find one.

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi, there is no way to juxt. a one part haiku. A one phrase haiku yes, but not one part. A one part would be something like "the singing bird" and that would be all.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 10:36:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Well, what I meant by anything is that members send in contributions to be selected for print. A panel of x number of people sit around a desk and pick the ones they like for publication in frog pond. It's not like they have any criteria. But only good haiku get selected.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:57:00 PM
    He holds his cards/over his lap- full house

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ; ) Aha!!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:56:00 PM
    Reading the sutra/ I decided/ to go straight JACK KEROUAC (okay now who doesn't like this one? It's quite funny!)

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/7/2012 5:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Infamous?????? No, not at all!! They're humorous and...entertaining! HA!
    Grisetti Avatar Joann Grisetti Date: 11/7/2012 7:42:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ruben, there were many sutras,not just the infamous one.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 7:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I had the book. Some of the names are hillarious.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Awesome! The "sutra" is for is Kama Sutra and its 64 positions...(some people dont know)
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:55:00 PM
    You’d be surprised/ how little I knew/even up to yesterday JACK KEROUAC

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:54:00 PM
    Taghagata neither LOATHES/ nor LOVES /His body’s milk or shit JACK KEROUAC

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:50:00 PM
    stylish hat/ socks hung over screens~/ pompoms fall..

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    well...in my own defense....
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 6:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yeah. My pom poms are so fallen.LOL
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:48:00 PM
    Tracie, oh yeah. Let's ku! xox

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:47:00 PM
    I feel a Ku'Off coming on... Ohhhhh yeah....

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:47:00 PM
    The booed cheerleader/ lifts her tiny skirt and / turns her other cheek.

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    But...where's the juxta? NO!! dont tell me! : )
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 7:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    WWWWWWWW aaaahahahhahaha! I love it!
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 6:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hehe Luv it..
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:39:00 PM
    Ok...Cyndi and Charles: let's work on this "haiku"....."the cheerleader/ jumps and falls --- giving an F" ....what is wrong?

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    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 6:47:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    nothing!! I luv it lol
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    3 verbs is OK?
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:12:00 PM
    Charles is thinking how to refute your Kerouac...be patient...he's coming...

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/7/2012 12:30:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    been watch Obama do his thing.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    With this hat, without socks and pom poms... It's too cheap!! LOL!
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 6:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It doesnt work without pom poms Ru :P xx
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:19:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    A "C"...An "H"...An "A"...
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 6:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    << gets her pom poms out for Cyndi.. Gimmi a C gimmi a Y...and so on.. lol
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Come on, Charles! Im on your side!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 6:04:00 PM
    The little sparrow/ on my eave drainpipe/ is looking around JACK KEROUAC, a haiku poet recognized by HSA. Hell, wasn't he one of the freaking founders?

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:51:00 PM
    "POP--American (non-Japanese) Haikus, short 3-line poems or “pomes” rhyming or non-rhyming dilineating “little Samadhis” if possible, usually of a Buddhist connotation, aiming towards enlightment. BOOK OF POPS." Kerouac's definition of haiku. What does the HSA say about Kerouac?

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Where's Catie?
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 5:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Shhhhhhhhhush Ru you'll get Catie in trouble :D lol
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 5:56:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    To Ku or not to Ku... I have this philosophy I kinda stick to..If I like it it stays lol xxx
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    If you like it, if other people enjoy it, then there is NOOOOOOOOOO problem. If you wish to explore tradional form, do. Whittle, practice, hone. ALL IS GOOD!
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 5:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Rhyme in your haiku? ...hmmmm Where's Deborah? HAHAHAHAHA!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:49:00 PM
    We're already four...let's play poker!! : )

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You killed my ego! LOL!
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 6:07:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I was thinking more the twilight theme :D lol Do Do Doo Do Do Do Doo Do Do Do Doo Do :D
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ta ra ra ra ra raa ta ra ra ra ra raaa...
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 5:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    More suspense music in crescendo :D
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 5:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    One sock is already over the Laptop... : )
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 5:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Well....why not? : )
    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 5:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi :0 lol
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    STRIP? lol.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:48:00 PM
    I find a number of the poets just seem to pick a form at random, not just haiku. ABC is often used and has nothing to do with an ABC form.

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 5:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You're rrrrright!
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:41:00 PM
    Cyndi...I love you, Cyndi...(suspense music ...) I understand your point. (suspense music in crescendo...) Now, what about people who doesnt know about the juxtaposition? ...about the 2 parts or perceptions? ...AND they really want to know about it! I've written more than 30 haiku when I didnt know how to write them...(I feel ashamed when I read them, now) ...Dont you think that is important to learn and challenge ourselves with...let say...perfection?

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    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 11/6/2012 6:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Still...I dont know how to write them!! LOL!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 6:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I say that it is up to the poet. That the poet of course (!) should be offered the chance to learn. But you can't ram learning down a throat. It is a choice. There is a way to offer learning. HI I CAN TEACH HAIKU? YOU INTERESTED? NO? OKAY THEN.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:35:00 PM
    I luv my Ku's but now save them for my webpage set to artwork, mostly my photo's.. xxx

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:33:00 PM
    Im guilty! Last night I fav one "Semi-senryu"...but...just because the poetess is adorable! : )

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  1. Date: 11/6/2012 5:27:00 PM
    NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Not againnnnnnnn! : )

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    Edwards Avatar Tracie Edwards Date: 11/6/2012 5:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hehehehe Ru you make me giggle :D xx
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 5:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hey, what can I say. I just couldn't stand it babe.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 4:16:00 PM
    Hey chum, I understand we all have our... sensitivities... mine, as you know, lol, is creativity, the ability to express oneself as one wishes, as long as it does not hurt anyone or objectify children. How someone writes and what they choose to learn is up to them, yes? Do I think its marvelous that there are those on the site who know a form down pat and are willing to share that knowledge? Darn tooting! I think that the teachers should add a little "Willing to teach haiku" right at the top of their bios. I was at the library today. There were several published and well known haiku books there. I glanced through them. Half of the published works do not use traditional haiku form. These are celebrated and recognized English (stupid term as Japanese haiku poets also write modern and contemporary haiku. The movement is global) I believe one title was a year of haiku... hmmm... will check the internet. So, it seems rather redundant to tell poets on an amateur poetry site that they are not writing true to form when those who are recognized in the haiku world are writing similar style haiku and THEY ARE NOT BEING CRITICIZED BUT PUBLISHED AND GIVEN AWARDS for the same style. Now, do I agree that evey haiku on the site is haiku? No. Do I think the poet enjoyed their experience writing the MY-ku. Probably. I understand your frustration, but there may be another way to pave that highway. Like my gran used to say, "Vinegar will never entice the fly. Be honey." :) Did I word this better than I have in the past? I really tried! ;-) Hugs Cyndi

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 5:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    the poem could also be interpreted 1 part under the floodlight -- 2nd part i see my breath disolve into the night You see the light and juxt to the breath.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    THe world of publishing is vast! You said "ANYWHERE" published. Anywhere is a big field. HUGE! Publishers are publishing ... gotta fly. Can we debate this later? I am enjoying this? Is this okay? Oh, my dad and I used to lock horns. It was lovely. LOL
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 5:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Another thing is it depends on who the publisher is for them to be authoritative. Some people publish whatever and call it anything. You give me something from hsa or by Higginson, or, Michael Dylan Welch (3000 publications). Michael has many 1 liners, but all with 2 part and jux.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ???? It reads as one continuous FLOWING sentence. (PS I am smiling. This reminds me of the 'wrastles' that my dad and I used to have. Long into the night. Oh, I really miss him...) Under the floodlight, I see my breath dissolve into the night. Two parts: A raven caws/I see my breath dissolve into night
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 5:06:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I see two. I see the breath and I see it disolve. Two parts.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Publisher SOFT SKULL... not self published.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 5:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You, crack me up girl. You show me any published one part haiku on the HSA website or in any of their published works and I will publickly apologize for any statement I have made here about it. I'm not talking of one liner. But one sensory perception and no jux.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 5:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    under the floodlight/I see my breath/dissolve into the night. ONE! ONE! ONE! Published! Go to the amazon site. Look through the book. PUBLISHED!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 4:59:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Haiku-Year-Tom-Gilroy/dp/1887128255#reader_1887128255 should have played poker with ya.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 4:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You are talking apples and oranges. A portrait has no difinitive rule, a haiku does. That is why Haiku Society of America and publishers accept and reject certain works. If one wishes to call it a three line poem, that works for me and I will compliment on that basis.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 4:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The only thing I do not agree with in your reply is that I'm criticizing for them writing the way published haiku is written out of form. That is not the point at all. I know what is being published and I never criticize for immulating that. Again, you will never see a one part haiku, a three part, or no juxtaposition haiku published. Senryu can have one part and no jux.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 4:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You are right about the three parts. Haven't seen that anywhere, not in modern or in contemporary! But if the poet has seen haiku, read haiku and CHOOSES to write what they interpret as haiku, that is up to them? Yes? It's like telling a painter, nope you call that a portrait but its twisted, unreal so it can't be a portrait. To the artist it is a portrait.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 11/6/2012 4:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Charles, are we comfortable with each other? I think so. So, as far as the one part goes, I say BOLLOCKS! Not at you, but at that statement. The books I looked at HAD one part haiku, recognized as haiku!! Not kidding, not pulling legs!
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 4:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi- -I'm not talking about the things you mention here, and they are very worthy points. No haiku is recognized that has three parts. No haiku is recognized which has one part. Those two things were all that I looked at in the poems I checked. They were all either one part or three. You will find none anywhere published like that. So, writers on the soup are not imulating published work.
  1. Date: 11/6/2012 3:11:00 PM
    You said----> I read all 50 and I must say that very few are even close to Haiku. Though I applaude the effort and intent which many of you made I only saw 7 poets whose poem was Haiku.-- Now I'm thinking out of the 50 haikus on that page. Only 7 poets were to your liking. SORRY everyone else we must need some more schooling when it comes to 5-7-5. Says You! I’m tired of you insinuating poets here on the soup, cannot perform any legit haikus. Except for the names of the poets, you named on this blog. You think too much of your own opinion verbally. I know you’re talking about the new haikus list, however like I said insinuating.

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    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 4:32:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am not insinuating anything. I am saying that if those who wrote the non haiku wish to write it correctly, I can help and I am very willing.
    Henderson Avatar Charles Henderson Date: 11/6/2012 4:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I didn't say that only 7 were to my liking. I liked many of the poems and with a little nudge they could be haiku. But the way they are written they are not. Well over half of the poems have 3 parts. I'm sure you understand what that means. You are right, if the persons who wrote these non haiku wish to write them the way anyone who knows haiku says they should be, then a little schooling, or tweaking of their work is needed.

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