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Blog Posted by Tania Kitchin: 6/7/2025 5:39:00 AM

It is disheartening to see more and more people are posting AI generated poems. They are also submitting these poems to contests. It's a disgrace, dishonest and should be banned!!

Poetry should be authentic, written from the heart with emotions and something that has meaning to that person, Not a stolen poem or AI genergated poem posted just to win in contests.

PS Admins, please consider adding an AI tool to the website. We need an updated list as well of AI tools that are up to date.

Lastly, I will be checking for AI and plagiarism in my contests. I am considering no longer sponsoring contests for this reason. It's not fair for some superb and authentic poets on this site to place 2nd, 3rd or not at all and AI generated poems get the trophy placements in contests.

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Theraven

Date: 6/13/2025 3:00:00 PM

Tania, Disheartening maybe an understatement of current affairs. We used to be concerned with our works being plagiarized. Though Oscar Wilde said "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness." Now it seems even grammar and sentence structure are being hijacked. Makes the subtle imperfections and colloquialisms all the sweeter, even as we dissappear (sic) from relevance in a world grown suddenly so small.. -Richard (I think)

Paula
Goldsmith

Date: 6/12/2025 12:36:00 PM

If you have not noticed the world has gone crazy. AI is just a part of the this new crazy world we now live in. For years I have written about AI. I have a "New" AI write on my page. After reading the comments below, I feel I may have the answer. If you write in AI then put "Written By AI Poet." on the bottom of your work. I have been putting "Written By Human Poet." on the bottom of my work. I think it is great the sponsors of the contests are checking for AI in their contests. It does not seem fair for a true writer to be in with a machine. Maybe some of the contests should be run Only for AI poets. Let them have their turn where all can see and read. I still say, "True writers write from their heart ~ AI does Not have a heart to write with. I hope everyone will take these words with the love they are written with. Have a blessed day writing away...................

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/10/2025 10:58:00 AM

Hi Suzette, No, you’re not wasting your time running contests but as I’ve been trying to point out in this blog, you are wasting your time fighting AI.

Richard D Seal
Date: 6/10/2025 1:04:00 PM

I understand why people are so upset and angry, the thought of rewarding those cheaters just to boost their ego bites at the soul. I hope you stick around, there are too few voices here as it is.

Suzette Richards
Date: 6/10/2025 11:36:00 AM

I will keep on writing poetry as it is a pleasurable hobby, but contests have lost their alure for me.

Suzette Richards
Date: 6/10/2025 11:27:00 AM

I am afraid that Grok 3 had just made a fool of me and my wild claim that my new poetic form could fool AI. It even wrote poems that might be considered better than some of my best efforts. I am disheartened, to say the least, Richard.

Suzette
Richards

Date: 6/10/2025 10:19:00 AM

I just had the shock of my life! I gave Grok 3 my new proposed "AI proof" contest details and it instantly produced 2 fairly good poems in succession. The one showed up as 43% possible AI, and the other as 56% possible AI. So, a guideline of close to example 100% is absolute nonsense. Are we wasting our time by running contests?

Suzette Richards
Date: 6/10/2025 9:46:00 PM

No more judging blind! Present or past transgressors may as well give my contests a miss - I wouldn't even bother reading their poems. Jeesh, do they think my grey hair means I am computer illiterate?

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 6/9/2025 8:29:00 PM

I'm with Jan and others. Please don't despair and stop your sponsorship of creative contest themes.

JCB Brul
Date: 6/10/2025 4:37:00 PM

Now, a lot of AI poems are winning contests toppling entries of genuine poets!! PS contest sponsors must be aware of this by using an advance tool for checking AI and plagiarism or better not run a contest. It's very devastating!

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/10/2025 5:48:00 AM

it makes me angry as a teacher too, Tania. I can tell my students are using it. At this point in my life, semi-retired. I do not even care . I don't get paid well as a private teacher, not well enough to use AI to correct every little thing my students do. Hang it all!

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/10/2025 3:37:00 AM

Andrea, thank you. I am on the fence about it and haven' finished judging my last contest yet due to AI being used more.

Connie
Pachecho

Date: 6/9/2025 11:50:00 AM

I thank Tania for addressing the undress.. Blogs that bring heat and deter the cheaters~~ Should be a red light to the maltreaters~~ AI poets, please catch the drift~~ And please stop causing this rift~~ Sans the fake sneakers ... write your own meters~~

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 1:42:00 PM

Connie, thank you. I hope the AI poets take the high road. We don't need fake poems here.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/9/2025 12:07:00 PM

Cute rhyme

Linda Alice
Fowler

Date: 6/9/2025 10:30:00 AM

I would prefer the AIers create their own site and compete amongst themselves, proving the better programmer? I don't enter near as many contests as I used to...just don't want to compete on that level. My work is mine, good or bad. :)

Linda Alice Fowler
Date: 6/9/2025 2:53:00 PM

I doubt it, too, Tania. Many companies now hiring humans to "teach" AI to sound more "human-like".

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 1:43:00 PM

Linda, a great idea and not to be on PS anymore. I doubt it will happen. I don't understand trying to take all the glory for fake poetry.

Linda Alice Fowler
Date: 6/9/2025 12:21:00 PM

Could make one feel cheapened or... violated almost...

Jan Allison
Date: 6/9/2025 11:38:00 AM

I feel exactly the same as you Linda Alice and as a result I spend less time on the site and enter fewer contests. sadly even limericks can be penned using chat GP and when you see multiple postings of them it raises a red flag especially when you check other works by a poet and it shows 100% AI!

Jan
Allison

Date: 6/9/2025 3:29:00 AM

I hope you don't stop sponsoring contests Tania but i have discovered CHAT GP has a specific area which will write limericks and as they are so short they wont get picked up by the AI checkers. I can assure you I write all my own poetry and will never stoop so low as to enter a poem I had not written 100%! hugs Jan xx

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/10/2025 3:38:00 AM

Jan, thank you. Yes, shorter poems are harder to screen. It just seems like a lot of extra work now for someone who works fulltime to have to deal with now.

Jacqueline
Elston

Date: 6/9/2025 1:21:00 AM

I.v been reading some replies on this subject on this thread that some say's along the lines of 'just try to write better poetry to beat the AI. !! For me, I'm now seeing the mind set of the AI cheerleaders :( We are not in a chess game with the AI!!! Progammers argue its 'Art' and that they want recognision for it because they say it takes hrs and hrs and hrs to programme it ! So who are the souless ones, the AI or the programmers ? *note..l have extreme cognative illness that also effect my eyes, hearing, hand co ordination etc, so there will always be grammar issues in my writing, so please, any readers who do not like it, do not soupmail me about it like iv had before.

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/10/2025 3:36:00 AM

l just wanted to add today , (that in case anyone says to me that) l do know that AI can already make decisions for it-self. My comments are referring to the stages that AI developers are pushing for , the 7th stage in programming.ie AI super intelligence , now set out for 2026 to 2035. They want to be able to connect with other life forms ie animals, plants and humans brains. which l understand in form of implants to share intelligence. AlphaGoZero an AI ,l think was put to test with human and won 100% at stage 3.AI is scary stuff !!

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/9/2025 5:08:00 AM

..l ask this question..are people ' watching' what is happening with AI development ? Few yrs ago l spoke many hrs with an AI programmer on a Music forum. He was a top AI developer & he was interested in having exchange of views with me, as no one else on the forum was interested. He said the tech now is , that AI will be so advanced & it will be be so perfect, it will able be able to program itself ie it will not need human input, that AI will make decisions for itself. He said he couldnt wait. Who's going to be able to detect it or stop it ?

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/9/2025 1:30:00 AM

..added note..iv even had it said to me that AI will help disabled peole like me have a better quility of life ? to what advantage is that ? l have freedom but i'm also imperfect..AI programmers want t it to be' perfect' Think about that..'they want it (AI) to become God'

Gary
Radice

Date: 6/8/2025 11:42:00 PM

I'd much prefer it if people just admitted they use AI so yes, let's have a separate section or dropdown for it at PS. Just an idea but I'm wondering if the responsibility for putting each contest poem through a specified AI checker should lie with the person entering their poem instead of the judge with each contestant having to indicate the % of AI found next to their poem.. Not totally satisfactory and a bit cumbersome but it may act as a filter of sorts. Yours desperately hoping A I isn't 'the end of the word'. Cheers - Gary

Gary Radice
Date: 6/9/2025 7:00:00 AM

I agree 100% with all that you say Tania. I don't use it to write any of my poems. I despise AI and the deceit that comes from using it underhandedly but it isn't going away. I was trying to rack my brain and think of a pragmatic solution re contests. I sympathise with all judges. Cheers - Gary

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 3:28:00 AM

Gary. thank you. AI doesn't have it's place in poetry and the ones using it are doing so to win in contests.

CayCay
Jennings

Date: 6/8/2025 5:44:00 PM

I just have one thing to say and it involves a 4-letter word: I HATE AI I HATE AI - Are users of AI doing so to compete in contests? I ask because what could the benefit be of posting a poem you haven't written.?.? Meaningless comments? I HATE AI. One thing said, three questions - thought all 4 up all by myself. CayCay

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/9/2025 8:29:00 PM

I triple quadruple ya, Caycay.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 3:28:00 AM

CayCay, thank you. I hate AI as well. Glad to have your support. I agree, using AI is so pointless in poetry.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/8/2025 2:30:00 PM

My last word on this. PS will not supply any form of detector for others to use. If anyone is accused of using AI and then you say it’s PS detector that says so etc.There are so many (untested) legal issues that PS are never going to want to get in to. Take care all, Richard

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/8/2025 2:35:00 PM

That is true, richard, about legal issues. I think it's up to us as members or as judges to determine how to deal with the issue. there are many tools available.

Constance
La France

Date: 6/8/2025 2:10:00 PM

Hi Tania, I am checking all poems in my contests for AI, if I check on a detector and if it indicates AI, I check it on another, and then another and maybe another etc. and usually 3 will say AI and one will say human.. and I go with the 3 that say AI and that poem will not place no matter what. If the person complains, I just tell them, your poem was confirmed to be AI, end of story for me as I note it in all my contests, no AI accepted.

Speaks Volumes
Date: 6/15/2025 4:15:00 PM

Sorry to be late commenting but what I dont understand is if a lot seem to feel sure that AI is being used to write poems, when judging why aren't their names mentioned as having failed the IA detector? This is the biggest deterrent I can think of. I know that some innocent poets may be caught in the net and some wrongly accused so judges have to be sure, but I think if you are all sure its happening as you seem to be,, then it seems to be a way to at least slow it down. To be honest, personally it doesn't worry me because the simple stuff I write falls under the bar set by AI or other poets in general.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 2:55:00 PM

Constance, thank you. I am worried about what sites to use to check them. Could you send me a soup mail with the sites you use. I am going to go back to checking mine since I found out afterwards that several AI poems placed in my last contest.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/8/2025 2:34:00 PM

that seems only fair. Also you should go by percentage. Some say AI at less than 50%. I'd go by ones that are closer to 100 . If three times, it's a strike-out!

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/8/2025 11:29:00 AM

Lin, I can’t see any rules that you have to be a prolific writer to be a member here, lots only post 2/3 a year. I’m sorry you won’t respond because it’s only through adult conversation and the airing of different opinions the resolutions can be found. If you have a solution to this problem I’d love to here it.

Richard D Seal
Date: 6/8/2025 2:21:00 PM

I would hope that bond includes all members, no matter how active they are, if it doesn’t, that seems like a poor show to me, If you only want to support some and not others . I’m against AI as much you are, in no way do I support its use. Friends?

Lin Lane
Date: 6/8/2025 11:40:00 AM

I'll respond and say a community of poets is only as strong as the bond they share, which should be writing and posting poetry. There is a PS rule that stipulates that no AI poetry is allowed, but that's not one that's being upheld. I've said many times that there seems to be no immediate solution to the AI issue.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/8/2025 9:42:00 AM

I see people saying AI has no life, soul, passion yet it still wins contests, it’s just another competitor in the contests, you just need to write better poetry to beat this lifeless, soulless, passionless entity. Take care, Richard

CayCay Jennings
Date: 6/8/2025 5:47:00 PM

To me a competitor has flesh, bones, heart, soul. By your own words, AI cannot compete at that level. I hate AI ... Wouldn't care to beat it, kill it, yes. CayCay

Richard D Seal
Date: 6/8/2025 11:32:00 AM

Sorry Jaymee

Richard D Seal
Date: 6/8/2025 11:31:00 AM

Totally agree Jaycee, your method is spot on

Jaymee Thomas
Date: 6/8/2025 10:57:00 AM

I strongly agree with you, Richard. It feels like just another entrant at this point, and not necessarily my biggest competitor at that. I get why people are upset though. The only real control we have is over ourselves. So as a poet, I don't use AI, as a contest sponsor I try to avoid placing AI if I spot it, and as a community member, I stay out of AI poets' comment sections so I don't inadvertently boost their engagement. It's a good discussion overall either way.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/8/2025 10:47:00 AM

Would you like to write better poetry to beat AI in a few contests, Richard? I'm going to take a pass at responding to you further since you've not posted anything in 7 months.

Anne-Lise
Andresen

Date: 6/8/2025 9:39:00 AM

AI is changing the "game" completely ... a "real" poet becomes vulnerable ... it is impossible to stop the development ... and it is changing our everyday lives ... - Dear poets, artificial intelligence is not your feelings and does not know your heart ... - Who are you fooling ... your poems glow RED -

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 3:29:00 AM

It's too bad they cannot give us some newer detection tools to use for this reason.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 12:37:00 PM

Anne-Lise, thank you and I agree. AI does not capture the real essence of poetry. Those who use it in my book are phonies.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/8/2025 9:25:00 AM

Lin, Tania, Yes, PS is choosing to ignore it, they are quite happy to leave it up to you and whatever detectors you have at your disposal to decide if someone is posting AI and take the action you dem appropriate. This is obvious to all.

Jacqueline
Elston

Date: 6/8/2025 7:01:00 AM

Thanks Tania for bringing up the subject. just an added thought to my other comments, why would l want to review or comment on a AI generated machine.? Why would l give it an award that it stole from a human ? At least the award for the AI film score team were honest to declare it was made on a computor, will PSoupers do the same ?

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/9/2025 3:30:00 AM

Good points, Jacqueline. I think the ones using AI on PS would never admit it.

Suzette
Richards

Date: 6/8/2025 6:05:00 AM

I have chirped in (now removed as it was rude). But here is my penny's worth: There are remedies, but are we ready to think outside the box? AI is predictable in text because of how it is programmed, whether to write a music score (it is original - much like each math equation is original), but literature - and by extension, poetry - is for now still in our hands. Remedy: Know your craft and be a better poet than AI - that way we can bamboozle it with unique content and putting some feeling behind our words, i.e. evocative poetry always wins the day. AI can check my grammar, spelling, text for clarity - but not let it into my mind (weird enough as is ... ). Have a nice weekend, folks :)

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 6:20:00 AM

Suzette, thank you. AI should never be used to post fake poems. Poetry should be authentic and from the heart.

Jacqueline
Elston

Date: 6/8/2025 5:06:00 AM

AI is causing massive problems in the Creative Arts. l once mentioned few yrs ago on another it will destroy the Music Industry & l got a backlash from the tech bro's who believed it was the best thing ever for mankind. They said it was now getting 'so perfect'. Many music Artist use it & no law as yet for them to revel it. l said it wiil cause problems as AI is at moment data taken from the input of humans,so who owns the legal rights? Now l saw one lawsuit over Artist bought lmusic ideas & the seller had used AI generated & sold them to Artist. the orginal of the music caught it and tried to sue Astist, so Artist trying to sue the seller of it who said Artist should have...l'll continue nk box,,

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 5:24:00 AM

Jacqueline, thanks for your comment. I never thought about this. AI is going to take over the world. So sad to see. Seems crazy that AI is rewarded and it is so fake.

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/8/2025 5:19:00 AM

Lyrics and poetry show human flaws in their work, but the AI cheerleaders want 'perfection' It will only get worse for us all as AI takes over :(

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/8/2025 5:10:00 AM

Now there is even awards for AI generated Film Scores. One team of 4 won massive award last yr. l listen to it, it was indeed perfect. Its terrible what is happening with AI, but mankind gave birth to it..and they dont want to kill it :(

Jacqueline Elston
Date: 6/8/2025 5:09:00 AM

..checked the music for AI first !! But the Artist said he bought the music as being the sellers own work..l think the row is still on going.

Richard D
Seal

Date: 6/7/2025 4:33:00 PM

I hope this isn’t too controversial but I must support the way PS is handling AI. There’s no way PS can monitor AI. Imagine if they threw out a poets work in that belief, what kind of row would erupt? As for AI winning contests, what does that tell us? ? ? Take care, Richard

Lin Lane
Date: 6/8/2025 6:58:00 AM

Keith, you'll always be the PS dingo. Some things should never change.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 6/8/2025 6:47:00 AM

Lin, trolls no, dingoes yes.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/8/2025 6:37:00 AM

Richard, how is it you think PS is handling AI? By ignoring it? And what does AI winning contests tell you? ...Keith, the last thing PS needs is more trolls.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 6/8/2025 6:15:00 AM

Maybe they are AI trolls? I much prefer the genuine ones.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 5:40:00 AM

Richard, I can't support when a site doesn't try to take action when members are posting fake poems and winning contests. It would be nice to have new detections tools for us to use.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 5:26:00 AM

Susan, thanks for your comment. Some are just trolls on here and come out from under their bridge to throw stones. AI is ruining the arts.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 6/7/2025 9:05:00 PM

Hi Susan, it’s all just vanity to me. To quote Uncle Ben in Spider-Man “with great power comes great responsibility”. AI will be a force for good in some aspects of our lives but there is no way to regulate or control it. There are too many Spectres in this world and not enough James Bonds. Sorry, I watched No Time to Die last night. I much prefer us flawed humans to this mad pursuit of knowledge and power.

Susan Ashley
Date: 6/7/2025 8:14:00 PM

Keith, I agree but let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, “bones and sinew and a web of unused neurotransmitters”. Your opinion is so vividly expressed, it’s scary…

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 6/7/2025 6:10:00 PM

They’ve thrown me out for less, but I digress. Unfortunately we can’t put the genie back in the bottle. All this technology that’s supposed to improve our lives just makes us less human and more mistrusting. AI makes us lazy creatively and intellectually. Soon humanity will become nothing but bones and sinew and a web of unused neurotransmitters and all of us a collective organism searching for our lost individual host.

Andrea
Dietrich

Date: 6/7/2025 2:17:00 PM

I see this happening too. It's truly pathetic. I try to come up with contest ideas that will not make it easy to use AI, but I am probably beating a dead horse. I think it's really obvious when AI is being used with free verse, so rarely do I ask for free verse in my contests.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 5:27:00 AM

Andrea, yes, I agree. It takes a fun out of sponsoring and submitting to contests.

Regina
Mcintosh

Date: 6/7/2025 11:33:00 AM

I've never used AI to create a poem or essay, but was once accused of this in a Facebook group. After talking to her about it, she used a different program and said that it wasn't AI - I'd had that poem posted on PS for years and was entering it in one of the group's weekly contests. It was really irritating to be accused when I KNOW and God knows I've never used AI for my writing. I did use it to create images on Substack, but never my words. Thanks for posting this. It's truly a huge problem but, like most, don't know the 'fix'. I hope no one ever thinks that about me again though. It was terrible to be accused knowing I'm innocent of this. God bless you all.

CayCay Jennings
Date: 6/8/2025 5:52:00 PM

You don't need AI, Regina, God knows that, too. CayCay

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/8/2025 5:28:00 AM

Gina, thanks for your comment. Your poetry is beautiful and I never once thought it was fake. The issue is the detection tools we have are not always accurate.

Unseeking Seeker
Date: 6/7/2025 8:44:00 PM

Your living truth is God’s flame glowing in your pure heart and your poems affirm that knowing, so why worry about what people judge? Blow a kiss of love to your detractors too.

Susan Ashley
Date: 6/7/2025 8:18:00 PM

Dearest Gina, I feel (know) all your beautiful poetry comes from the depths and breadth of your heart and soul.. never a doubt with me, my dear poet friend

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:35:00 PM

I hope I never get accused of it. That would really suck. You write so beautifully, Gina, i can see how this would happen, and it's just not fair.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 1:25:00 PM

Gina, I don't doubt your word. ;-)

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 1:25:00 PM

I do agree, Kim. The question that may not have an answer is how do we distinguish what is human and what is not? I don't have the answer and it makes me feel terribly vulnerable.

Kim Rodrigues
Date: 6/7/2025 12:48:00 PM

See that’s why we need to be careful. That’s awful!

Rob
Carmack

Date: 6/7/2025 10:12:00 AM

We should never have created AI. To think we can control it is foolish and if not for God, it would become an 'extinction level event'. Just another proof that our species is incapable of autonomy no matter how much we want to be.

Rob Carmack
Date: 6/7/2025 9:28:00 PM

Keith - AI may keep a few million of us alive as specimens, but the rest of us would be killed if God allowed it. The final straw for me will be when AI mimics mic drops.

Keith D Trestrail
Date: 6/7/2025 9:18:00 PM

Rob, speaking as someone with a reprobate mind I agree totally. The extinction clock is ticking…for many, not all.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 5:10:00 PM

yes, what you say about human vs. AI. That time is coming. We will be slaves. Progress is not always good. I really liked the time before AI.

Rob Carmack
Date: 6/7/2025 5:02:00 PM

Andrea, I agree that we are in the end times. Romans 1:28 ......God gave them over to a reprobate mind..... Never thought it would progress this fast.

Rob Carmack
Date: 6/7/2025 4:57:00 PM

Hey Lin! Soon, we will not be able to distinguish between Human and AI. All AI needs is proximity, by that I mean the ability to hunt us down anywhere on the planet. This will come in time with the advancement and spread of robotics.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:34:00 PM

Lots of things are leading to society's collapse. AI is a big part of it. Other things are also taking away people's ability to form good judgement and to really "feel." I see blatant lies all the time in memes and news reports, and I feel like some of the preposterous "facts" are being generated by AI. or downright liars. I believe we are in end times and nothing will fix the situation. So sad to see all this happening right in front of me. I have felt it coming ever since 2000 and now picking up speed.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 11:01:00 AM

Sorry, Dave. We can't go back to that archaic way of human thinking. 2025: AI Odyssey. Hi Rob ;-)

Unseeking
Seeker

Date: 6/7/2025 8:36:00 AM

Yes, I agree. However as of my understanding there is no infallible tool available to certify that the poem is AI or not. I spoke with an IT expert who said that now there are programs which humanise the AI generated writings. Whilst AI should no doubt be disallowed, if genuine original works are deemed as AI by the engines used, that too would be wrong. I’d welcome a solution, if it exists.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:27:00 PM

U.S, thank you. I am hoping that they keep developing and upgrading AI detecting tools. I hope a solution can be found. One would be for the fake poets to leave PS and other poetry sites.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 4:15:00 PM

Oops my comment was meant for Edward but it jumped up here!

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:19:00 PM

to what you said about POTD being AI. yes, that is crazy. Soup needs to check THAT before giving out POTD's.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 9:08:00 AM

It is perplexing, Seeker. I know of one way in which AI users are humanizing their generated poetry but to name it here would be a terrible idea. I don't know how to rid the soup of it. It's become the same as an infestation of vermin.

Edward
Ibeh

Date: 6/7/2025 8:20:00 AM

You beat me to this blog, Tania. I'm so glad you posted it, and I couldn't agree more about everything you said. I'm checking ALL poems submitted to my contests from now on. If it's AI generated, it's gone. I don't care who wrote it, it's an automatic N/A. If nothing is done about this, I'll stop sponsoring contests altogether. TPS should get involved. What has become of Poetrysoup? *smh*

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 12:55:00 PM

Thanks Ed. We need better detection tools because I checked a few of my poems before and it said AI and I wrote them. The tools are not fool proof. We need updated options.

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 11:19:00 AM

I know that's a fact, Edward. Not unbelievable any longer.

Edward Ibeh
Date: 6/7/2025 11:05:00 AM

A recent 100% AI-generated poem was selected as POTD. Unbelievable...lol

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 8:27:00 AM

Edward, I'm really happy to see you commenting about this issue. You and I have discussed it and the action you're willing to take is one everyone should be following.

JCB
Brul

Date: 6/7/2025 8:20:00 AM

Thank you Tania for posting this blog to raise awareness to all members of PS. It is really devastating to see AI poems winning contests especially premiere ones. These poets who use AI are not poets, they are fooling none other than themselves. :(

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:15:00 PM

JCB, thank you and so true. I really don't understand it. My poems may not be the best poetry or fancy writing but they're 100 percent my work with thought and purpose.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 4:14:00 PM

I know one reliable guy who checked out ten poems of a new poet here. Totally AI each time. When I learn of something like this, it helps me to at least avoid them

JCB Brul
Date: 6/7/2025 3:40:00 PM

Since AI is pestering this site, what we can do is to stop patronizing them if we feel their works are doubtful. We cannot simply pinpoint them because it is very unfair to those genuine poets to be accused of doing such crimes(plagiarism and AI) like in the case of Gina.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:20:00 PM

should we stop commenting to a person if we suspect them of doing this? I struggle with knowing what to do if they are always being nice and commenting to others.

Tom
Cunningham

Date: 6/7/2025 7:29:00 AM

This used to be a great site Tania, but not anymore. Standards have really dropped and something needs to be done. Like if you have a genuine concern and raise it but get ignored or fobbed off with some lame excuse. AI is taking over, I've heard many are using it and claiming it as their own work and winning contests, how do these people sleep at night, have they no shame?. Tom

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:18:00 PM

Tom, thank you and so true and it's sad to see. I think it's not at the same standards as it was when I joined. Things seem to be ignored, even though, supposedly not allowed.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:27:00 PM

I wonder the same thing, Tom. I know a few really good people who are doing it and bragging on FB about all their publication deals. Can it be that even publishers are not checking for AI?

Kim
Rodrigues

Date: 6/7/2025 6:48:00 AM

Also, I notice people using certain words I just used. Not against that all the time but poems should be original. I am talking about, in the same contest. Sometimes, this could be a coincidence, I acknowledge, but other times, I’m like really!

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:21:00 PM

Kim, plagiarism is another issue going on as well. There was a PS member a few years ago who was stealing her posted poetry from other poetry sites. She still posts on FB. Disgusting and pathetic.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:25:00 PM

A few times I have written a poem and then noticed another poet also used similar words or ideas as I did. I hope people never think I am looking at other people's poetry to do such a thing, but I always wonder what judges think if it occurs. i actually write many of my poems days in advance and don't even post them until later, so if a few poets are using phrases similar to mine, I think it is clearly a coincidence. the more specific a topic is (for example, Nette's alliteration contest for monoku), the easier it can be to assume people are copying each other when they actually are not

Lin Lane
Date: 6/7/2025 6:57:00 AM

I noticed you'd mentioned that a couple of days ago, Kim. Just like my saying, "Really, people," it's really taking place. Do they think no one is wise to what they're doing? But what good does it do when they're getting away with it and being rewarded?

Lin
Lane

Date: 6/7/2025 6:41:00 AM

The brick wall Jan mentioned would be a hilarious cartoon if it weren't so revoltingly true. I posted several Monoku on the subject two days ago that stated my opinion, and by the number of comments that were made, it's become a grave concern. Administration... need I go into their lack of concern even though they clearly state..."AI POEMS ARE NOT ALLOWED.' Words without policing are useless.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:26:00 PM

so true

Lin
Lane

Date: 6/7/2025 6:40:00 AM

Tania, thank you for drawing more attention to the use of AI's dominance in contests, but also in many postings and even some who've been using its analytical prowess to make comments. Really people! Why call yourselves poets if you don't write your own words? Try selling your AI generated poetry to magazines and see what replies you'll get.

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:22:00 PM

Lin, thank you and it's all such a disgrace to us all.

Jan
Allison

Date: 6/7/2025 6:12:00 AM

Sadly Tania let's be honest, we know nothing will get done about it. I have given up reporting the poems which are 100% AI and it beggars belief that admin produced a book of AI poetry and when i took them to task over this they couldn't see what the issue was! This proves we are knocking our head against a brick wall on this subject. hugs Jan xx

Tania Kitchin
Date: 6/7/2025 7:24:00 PM

Jan, so true. I do think however that some of the tools are not accurate. I have checked a few of mine and some sites showed AI and some 100 percent human. I have never used AI and we need better detection. I agree, the admins seem to ignore this.

Andrea Dietrich
Date: 6/7/2025 2:26:00 PM

Good grief!

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