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Blog Posted:4/18/2017 6:43:00 PM

Why are the view counts so low on this site?

This is a straight forwarded and  a fair question.

It's discouraging to see such low view counts comapred to other sites.

i.e posting a poem and seeing 20-25 views for the day .... wee.

I've been on web MD, poker, yahoo, newspaper, football sites and receive

1000-4000 views in a few days. Here it's dead. Can it be any worst?

Did I tell you I receive 200 likes a number of times, and here nothing.

What's missing?

Me? Or the wrong fork in the road?

Why?

I've seen poets on other sites racking the views and foiollowers-

here it's comatose. Again why?

It's discouraging to see another poet on another site have 700 folowers,

write the most mundane poems, laughable at that, and see her have so

many views.

Let me explain. View counts is a motivator. It stimultates a poet

to write the his best. Here I write scratch off, 20 minute poems at most, because there is no

audience. Just being brutally honest.

Trust me it wears on a person to be writing to an audience of a handful?

Can this site bring more viewers aboard? What does it take?

 

 

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  1. Date: 4/23/2017 6:59:00 PM
    Frank Herrera: ".CONNIE MY FRIEND....SOME HERE FEEL LIKE YOUR SUPPORTERS THINK I SENT YOU THE COMMENT YOU SEEM OBSESSED BY...I WAS HERE FROM THIS SITE'S INCEPTION. WHEN WE TRULY LOVED ONE AND OTHER...WHEN SOMEONE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT ANOTHER HERE...THEY USED 'SOUPMAIL' A FEW HERE THINK IT WAS I...BECAUSE I USE CAPITAL LETTERS...AND I WROTE A SIMILAR BLOG...ABOUT THE 'BOORS' HERE....AND I STAND BY IT...I DELETED IT BECAUSE...ONCE I EXPRESS MYSELF...I QUICKLY REGRET BEING "SMALL"...LIKE MY DETRACTORS...AND I DELETE. IF YOU THINK SOME RESPECTED MEMBER HERE DISSED YOU...YOU SHOULD SETTLE IT BETWEEN YOU WITH "SOUPMAIL"...INSTEAD OF INSTILLING GOSSIP MONGERING BY YOUR FRIENDS...GUESSING WHO THE AUTHOR WAS... AND SAYING UNSAVORY COMMENTS ABOUT HIM...WHICH COULD GET THEM KICKED OFF THE SITE ---------------------------------Frank, it's like you're manic-depressive - several times you've gone on absolutely unfounded screwball berzerk rants. Yes, you delete them later on, and then you disappear for a time, while you presumably get yourself under control. Connie doesn't need your wacky lunacy added into the mix. And how can you be like 65 years old and in your "mid-40s"? :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

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    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/26/2017 12:37:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Who's Bart schmeck?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/25/2017 9:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    There's a great deal of irony going on. Too much to fit into a reply box. Settle with soupmail... then threaten to kill someone on a public website, albeit sarcastically, yet still, ummm? Overdramatize much?
    Schmek Avatar Bartholomew Schmek Date: 4/25/2017 3:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Not "imitation." It was a direct quote from Frank, copying and pasting what he said. He's made another nutty blog post now - Blog Posted:4/25/2017 2:35:00 PM. Standard delusional Frank...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/23/2017 7:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Some of us have been here 10 years. I've only been here 6 years. We get to know manners of "speech" here. How we form our sentences. Favourite words. Punctuation. Our favourite sayings. Regardless of hostilities, we KNOW each other. Somebody was trying to imitate Frank. Frank, you don't feel that?!?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/23/2017 7:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    right DOWN to the word play
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/23/2017 7:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Well, if it isn't him, it's an even scarier thing. It's someone who knows him so well that they are emanating his style, right now to the word play (homophones are Franks favourite word play.) Soooo how freaky is this? Somebody is trying on personas and copying styles to cause even MORE conflict/drama? SICK!
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/23/2017 7:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I found Frank's tone conciliatory. He articulated his message well without any hostility towards anyone, where he just wanted to clear the air. I see that.
  1. Date: 4/23/2017 10:49:00 AM
    Hello Connie, If that (BOORS) comment bothers you so much, why did you feel the need to display it ,again? Whoever wrote it obviously had a change of heart. Obviously you like to stir the pot, to get your flippant friends spieling again.

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    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/26/2017 12:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Expose the dirty laundry so you can clean your clothes? Lol. Glad I'm not your neighbor. Oh wait, was that an analogy of sorts? Double lol
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/23/2017 7:39:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    How do you clean the clothes if you don't expose the laundry? I sure wish I had the ability to lock the blog from further comments that way in the future, another respondent can't say connie's stirring the pot.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/23/2017 6:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Waaaaaa hahahaha!!! I still have a few drops of decency, I won't repost here your "message". However, let me respond to your "descriptive noun" ... I could be your "private one" if you want. : DD! Usually, dumb (may I say retarded?) people around the Soup, instead of saying what they really think, open a "ghost" account just to write "harsh" comments under a fake name. I said suspicious because I believe this is your case. Your "voice" sound familiar ... I think I know you : D Have a nice Sunday evening!
    lewis Avatar annie lewis Date: 4/23/2017 4:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Soup mail
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/23/2017 3:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hi, Annie. You don't have any poem posted on your home page. Its very suspicious : DD! I believe that Connie did what every one of us should do: expose the bullying/bully. We're adults, we're supossed to be mature enough to discuss our differences (opinion, views). Why this person didnt come openly to express his point? Is he shy? Stir the pot? ... and what's the purpose of your comment? : D Have a nice day.
  1. Date: 4/20/2017 6:56:00 PM
    This is discouraging. Some highly respected member of soup is spewing about in her comment box today of how negative these blogs are. I get the innuendo, and look at all the recent blogs and conclude that the inference she's making is directed at me (?). Why? Is it wrong to raise your hand and ask a question? Seek answers? Learn? Self improve? The sole purpose of my blogs were to kick things around and set the motions for resolutions. Not to disparage or spew negativity. For the most part, I think the blog has been clean and the respondents civil. Has it been a bunch of seals having fun? Yes. There should be nothing wrong with that.

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    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/25/2017 3:26:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    And I see the irony continues... do as I say, not as I do... sheesh.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/23/2017 6:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    BUT ... odor is kind of sexy!!! : D!
    Herrera Avatar Frank Herrera Date: 4/23/2017 1:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS HIGHLY RESPECTED MEMBER...YOU SHOULD SEND HER A SOUPMAIL...AND AVOID YOUR FRIENDS UNSAVORY COMMENTS ABOUT MEMBERS HERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO NAME!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/23/2017 9:16:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I think we agree, Ruben, who wrote that message. Typical bullying style. The play on words. Talk about old and tired.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/23/2017 1:40:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Odor? LOL!!
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/23/2017 1:37:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I know who wrote the comment! !! : DD! Awww! Those capitalized letters ... So cute! Why he didnt defend (if there is something to defend) his ideas in this blog in a civilized matter? Chicken nuggets with extra mayo, please!! : DD!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 5:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    LOL!
    Seal Avatar Richard D Seal Date: 4/21/2017 5:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Seals, seals where? honk honk lol
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    PPS-- he has no standing on soup. He's left too many times to count. He knows how to get attention, too. He whines "time to go" then stays. Irony that he says you're seeking attention. He does it all the time!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    PS- Don't let him chase you away. I didn't need to see the name. I recognize the style...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:33:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    So, a question. You've left here? Did the horrible blogs cause you to go? They are saying the only reason people leave soup is due to we horrible people.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yet, people can spill as much hate into a poem, post it-- usually the same person who worked to shut down the blog. So, the freedom of speech thing? It doesn't exist here. They prefer to hate, love to talk behind backs and don't even know what 'discussion' means anymore.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'm sorry if you received backlash from any content on the blog, Connie. The fact is that whenever someone doesn't like a blog, they use the "people are leaving because of you" card. In the hopes of having the blog deleted by management.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I truly hoped a few would say: I'd just enjoy the visit to my poetry page. Ask about my grandkids. Ask about my trip. Ask about something in the poem. Instead? They WANT and EXPECT and DEMAND "Great!" "Fantastic" I gotta say...it said something very LOUDLY.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You indicate that you wish to be friends. But it's not enough. They demand that in order to like them, you must love their poetry. This is not healthy... and it may cause less interaction-- especially the POSITIVE kind.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/21/2017 2:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I, too, had hoped for resolution. What does it say when you acknowledge that you highly respect a person, admire their character and strength, but their poetry does not move you?
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/21/2017 2:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Just don't use the word tro _ _. It attracts heat seeking missiles. I got hit. We're pirates now.
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/21/2017 1:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    To you. I know you have equity in this site. If these blogs are catching fire, all civil, and view numbers increase isn't this a bonanza for the site? And even for PM's wanting to subscribe? Then why would you go out of your way to suppress me?
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/21/2017 12:50:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    So who posted this? Note-I hope you are not the one from my past. The one that prompted me into deleting my accounts 3 times, and the last footle poem. Do you have something against me? Does making my life a misery your pleasure? It seems. I read this over and over-"Like in my poem I'm looking for attention." Huh? Right. If it makes you happy (now I know you are sick) I'll take a break. BLOG: Reply to your comment on blog Why are the view counts so low on this site? Commented on 4/20/2017 6:56:00 PM "WHY ARE ALL "BOORS"...HERE...WITH THEIR OLD,TIRED< HACKNEYED SPIEL...MOUTHING OFF>>>WANTING SO MUCH ATTENTION? YOU MUST HAVE AN ODOR...OR SUMPEM...THAT DRAWS THEM...?LIKE IT WAS MAYBE PLANNED...YOU THE BARTENDER...AND THEY COME TO YOU TO SHOW THEM...HOW TO GET ATTENTION...LIKE IN YOUR POEM?"
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/21/2017 12:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie, Ruben is right - don't be disheartened. I only have 5 months' PoetrySoup experience, but the logs have more good discussion right now than at any other time I've seen.
    Herrera Avatar Frank Herrera Date: 4/21/2017 6:42:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    WHY ARE ALL "BOORS"...HERE...WITH THEIR OLD,TIRED< HACKNEYED SPIEL...MOUTHING OFF>>>WANTING SO MUCH ATTENTION? YOU MUST HAVE AN ODOR...OR SUMPEM...THAT DRAWS THEM...?LIKE IT WAS MAYBE PLANNED...YOU THE BARTENDER...AND THEY COME TO YOU TO SHOW THEM...HOW TO GET ATTENTION...LIKE IN YOUR POEM?
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/20/2017 10:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Welcome to SoupLand!! Connie, don't feel disheartened by those comments, just ignore them. It's just like I said previously: when you mention the word "mediocrity" ... they think you're talking about them. : DD! Highly respected? : DD! Nah!
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 9:14:00 PM
    Connie? Did you get the info? Some like more exposure for their poem. One poem of mine is embedded in Zoom (I chose not to grumble) I think it has like 3,000 hits or something. Now, some poems are searched for off site. Poems on love are big (for cards, weddings, etc) so I am guessing they get the most hits. I wrote a poem on Tim Horton... had no idea at the time it would reach so far. (Canadians are obsessed with the place which is a franchised coffee shop/national identity- nk) So sister sites=thousands of hits (potentially)

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    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/20/2017 12:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Tim Horton - heck of a hockey player, couldn't drive worth a crap. Yes, I know -an old and bad joke.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/20/2017 8:20:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Thanks, Connie :) I wrote that ages ago and I no longer would classify it as poetry, but I still like it as a "write" as it captures a part of Canadian culture. Yes, I write EVERYTHING-- including books for children (still waiting to hear back from the editor. Prepared for rejection.)
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/19/2017 10:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Thanks for the info, Cyndi. Just when I thought there may be a ray of sunshine I already have sister sites selected. Oh well. BTW I read your poem on Tim Horton. Nice. And I see you like writing anecdotes, short stories, too.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:22:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yes. You have sister sites selected. I found one of your poems on Poetryzoom. I do suggest you look through those sister sites... I found one of your poems on the love sister site under "cherish" (category.) Sorry, I thought that may have helped.
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 8:07:00 PM
    Dan, I just read the note that "not all poets here want to get published. I already know that and I'd say the majority of poets here are simply sharing what they've written and are not interested in criticism at all. But some of us are. And if I have a chip on my shoulder its because I'd go out of soup, find these wonderful poetry tips, come back and share them with anyone who was interested, in a blog that practically popped with excitement! (some may remember my puppy-like enthusiasm.) I only thought those who were interested would comment. WRONG. I got some very ugly comments. People were actually disrespecting nationally acclaimed poets-- saying they knew nothing and indicated that the poetry on Soup was better than world renown contemporary poets SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT UNDERSTAND IT! So, because they could not understand it, it was bad poetry. Not that they needed to learn more about poetry (see how the ego comes in?) but that the poetry is bad. It boggled my mind. So, I went on a quest...as I've already said here. And as I improve, more poems get published... but I still have so much to learn. Do others feel the way I do? YES. Some here do. And they visit my pub blogs, etc. When I had that workshop? There was a concentrated effort to sabotage it. They were actually trying to stop poets from learning how to revise. I get why some may prefer to leave their poetry as is...but to ACTUALLY stop ANOTHER poet from developing? Frankly its the rudest thing I've EVER seen on soup. So why would someone try to stop another poet's growth? Why would they want that... on a site that is focused on contests... competition... winners lists? What if the judges learned about trope and word pairings? What if new members improved on poetic skills? What would happen to the winner's lists? Any blogs about devices and poetics I write are not to show off or to force someone to change their style. it's to help and share what little I've picked up in three years... and I've been deeply touched by the genuine gratitude I've been given by those who GET ME. Who see my heart.

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    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/20/2017 8:14:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    We toboggan and have a toboggan. Our small town has signs up not to skidoo on the streets (I'll take a picture!)
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 9:47:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Do you have a skidoo or even a sled? I've always been fascinated by the Iditarod.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Most of us wear toques. But the big coats? Yup. Boots. Road salt to stop cars from slipping. Ice fishing. Snogging to keep warm? Nose kisses. Cross country skiing. Ice hotels. Hot cocoa... cold can be good.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 9:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Chris, I just keep picturin' the movie Fargo in my head. Those big coats and head flaps etc. Also I'm not all that keen on polar bears roaming the countryside. Mind you, I do like beavers!!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:24:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Trouble? You? Pointless to say behave. How about be prepared :) later gater.. this was like a chat room.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 9:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    My buddy B is on his way. He wants to take a night trip to the Reservation. I hope that we don't get into too much trouble. If I don't reply tomorrow, we might've got into some trouble lol.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 9:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sure, but there's still some crispness to the air. Though, I've been a girly-man and checked out the wildflowers that are finally springing up in the woods, on a daily basis :D
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:07:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It was 20 today uhhhh 70 degrees Fahrenheit
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:06:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ROFLMAO! You are perpetuating the myth of igloos and permafrost.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 9:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I apologize for intruding on your friendly interaction (Keith can be a gentleman when he wants to be :P). Keith, are you afraid of freezing your nuts off up here? It seems like my brother doesn't want to leave Oz. I don't blame him.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:56:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Keith, Captain... I just read your reply! You made me smile until my face hurt! Chip officially off shoulder. THANK YOU!
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Never been to Canada I'm sorry to say. My mother went to school there. A lot of Trinidadians go to school and live there. Gold Coast eh? That's one wild town!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Have you travelled to Canada? My brother lives on the Gold Coast. I don't remember the town's name off-hand.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:47:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Seriously about your uncle and cricket. I know, I know, the league.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:46:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Seriously?
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    BTW, Rugby is not Rugby League. Two closely related but different sports. I'm a League man.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The girls are great - really physical! My uncle played cricket for Canada back in the 50s.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:42:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I know rugby. Even the girls play it here.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Nascar? Hockey? I'm an NRL man (Rugby League). Google it and you'll see why!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:36:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Oshie just scored. 5-3.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    3-4? okay.. maybe some Ontario pride will kick in after all.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I see your heart. Not all that long ago I asked you for your help to critique one of my poems knowing how busy you are and thinking you'll get back to me in a week or so when convenient. Much to my surprise you contacted me the next day with a raft of suggestions most of which I adopted. You spent about 3 hours devoting your time to help a fellow poet - that's time away from your family and your own pursuits. I was then and will always be grateful to you for that kindness.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Nice! Good times, indeed.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Auston Matthews! Goal!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I had a hockey DAD. I got to go to the forum in the seventies. Sat on his lap. Good times!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:26:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    NASCAR, really!? Ha! Intriguing. So, no hockey for hubby?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:24:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :DDDD He... is ... a .... NASCAR FAN. Cars cars cars ... he spends hours looking at cars on the web. He walks, talks, breaths cars.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am a Canucks fan. They didn't even make it in lol. Is your hubby a Leafs fan, or also a Habs fan?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'm a habs fan. Don't care ... (swat me)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Blew a 5-on-3 powerplay.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:11:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Leafs are down 4-2.
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 7:21:00 PM
    I would ask Doug (or the readers) if he links his poetry with other sites, like Facebook, yahoo, newspaper etc. I read Doug's last poem, Big Dog, of how his beloved dog tries to shoehorn down into his basement and note the nearly 800 views in 3+ weeks, which is impressive. My question: where are his views coming from.

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    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/20/2017 12:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Dogs are a popular subject. Lots of people have dogs or other pets and can relate. Biggest single thing for views and comments is commenting on other people's poems. Many people - if you comment on their poem - will comment on yours. If they choose to 'follow' you, then your poems will appear on the "Poems of Poets I Follow" - the link on the left of the PS homepage.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    LOOK: www.poemzoom.com/ See?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Now... go to your profile... you can find the link on the member area on the left side of this page, towards the top, under the yellow star. Okay. At the bottom of the profile page, there is an area that says yes to sister sites or no. Check out the sister sites!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:00:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    First, read the bottom of this.. it has the sister sites. Any poem that (for example) has a title with "Love" will get more hits. Look... www.poetrysoup.com/about_us.aspx
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    There you are! I'll go find it! it's when you sign up as a member!!!!
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/19/2017 8:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sister sites??? For the readers and myself please show me/us in small steps-the how to, where to go, which buttons to press.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie? SISTER SITES! The ones with hundreds have usually said yes to sister sites!
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:00:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sister sites...now you're talkin'. I like those sites but I always forget to delete my search history. Won't make that mistake again!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sister sites get readers from OFF THIS SITE. It's a search engine!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:48:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie did you sign up for sister sites? THIS IS IMPORTANT.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    connie, to answer your question (in part) doug has been very supportive of the community and is receiving support in return. did you read my original comment to you? i was being serious (for a change)
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ha! who you kidding? you're a tro _ _ extraordinaire!
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 7:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Comment jumped.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 7:24:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I was always more a Skynyrd and Grand Funk Railroad man myself. But Duane and the boys rock too! I've been busy, also didn't want to offend anyone - I don't have the talent for it like you do!
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 7:07:00 PM
    Connie, you're hot...well, your blog is...you might be too...I don't know! Are you happy with your view count now? @Doug: mate, Ginger all day long! @Frederic: I still don't know how you wrote your poem in the sand? Did you drink a keg first!!

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    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yeah Ruben, I took some credit for your meanness lol. Here, have it back.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    keefer, where ya been? we been around the world and back - in two days! that's a record btw
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 6:42:00 PM
    Just for the record: I (me) said "intellectual stagnation and high-school lyricism" @Chris: stop taking credit for my meanness!!! : DD! @Doug: Im all for debate! : D I can defend or oppose any topic with persuasion and eloquence just for the sake of blah-bling : DD.

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    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 8:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yeah Ruben, I took some credit for your meanness lol. Here, have it back.
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 8:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'm very visual!
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:59:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    and it's gonna be a pic-poem - ha! for all you visual poetry lovers out there
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    i think I'll go write a serious poem. blogging is fun, but... hmmm maybe something about the ecology. ciao mates
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/19/2017 7:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @DAN: assuming that people have left because of "this type of blogs" says more about them than the blogs. : DD! I prefer an honest opinion always ... instead of hundred of hypocritical "great poem"
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 7:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sorry, Becca's got a life!!! We on the other hand...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:50:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Even though she and I haven't seen eye to eye, yes, I'd trust her opinion. She's mature enough to see through the smoke.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:48:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    we need Becca to weigh in. she's good at cutting through the uh, well you know
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:47:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Maybe this will be good. Maybe this will clear the air. Maybe we can choose to simply LIKE the poet and be grown up enough to stick clear of false compliments about poetry. Is it so wrong to like someone????
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yet the ones who say that they are fantastic poets, lose their minds when one suggestion is given, demand claps are the ones with no ego issues? See what I'm saying? How does that even compute?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:42:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I took that sage advice and I used it. I am still learning, still developing and I've said that a hundred times and yet somebody always shoves EGO in my face,even though I have said I'm still learning, still make mistakes, have so far to go.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I've heard dozens of times from journals, not good enough, you need more this or less that. I did not get a broken heart from HEARING THE TRUTH about my poetry.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:37:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    We need, I mean all of us, need to realize that what we post may not be seen as poetry to someone else. My ego is not so large that I need to hear false praise or believe that I am a great poet. I have found great poets OUT THERE. And I am humbled by what they write.
    Kearley Avatar Dan Kearley Date: 4/19/2017 7:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sorry Cyndi, about the 12 published books,I read that wrong. But yes, some have left here because of these type of blogs. Once it starts, others join in and start ripping someone to shreds. Some people read these blogs to try and get to know some of you without ever saying a word. Do you realize that some of the very forward answers push people away from here?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I never said that I have 12 published books or national awards. But I sure as hell respect the poet who does. I've had so many discussions since 2011 from Soupers who'd argue with the guy who is a poet laureate that HE or SHE knows nothing about poetry and the poets here on soup know MORE than he does. If I'm rude, its because that is absurd.
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 6:23:00 PM
    Hi, Dan! Nice to see you're back. "The holier than thou club" <-- : DD! Why do some people take things so personally? : D Is it "get offended" easier than accept constructive critique? Usually, the "offended" ones are Soupers who "don't read blogs" <-- : DD! who stop visiting your poems if you point out a misspell, who calls you "troll" or "full of yourself" if you want to share some knowledge, who feels you're talking about them if you mention the word mediocrity ... How hard is for some of us to accept that we're still learning? ... that we NEED to learn? ... that there's always a better way to express our ideas/feelings? ... that we can help each other and grow together as writers?

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    Kearley Avatar Dan Kearley Date: 4/19/2017 6:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hey, Ruben!
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 5:46:00 PM
    : DDD!!! Once again, the party started late, I left early, sorry guys. : D! You all saved the best comments for (and kept them coming through) the late-late night. It's not fair. Reading Agnes and Lin (hello, Ms Lane!) comments make me think that we should blah-blah-debate (in other blog, of course) about our poetry views (is it a literary Art, self-help-journal, both ... neither one?). Do we really know how to transmit the emotion we feel (reading our poetry) to our eventual readers. Is it writing about the death of a loved one through lines and rhymes considered poetry per se? Is Trump going to resign soon? : DD!

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    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/21/2017 12:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi, I would say that not every reader would see it as good poetry, rather than "as poetry," at all. Although, perhaps it's like the stereotypical old guy shaking his fist and screaming, "That's not music, it's just *noise*!"
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 9:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Doug, agreed...The poetry of a seventy year old widow who writes one verse a day for his grandchildren has merit, of course! To his family, for his own health and enjoyment. It is beneficial to many. But it doesn't mean that every reader would see it as poetry. But what does that matter?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 7:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I've seriously had it with those with egos falling out of their ears thinking the ones who actually TAKE FEEDBACK are the egomaniacs. EGO? Ego is being freaked out when someone says typo.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/19/2017 7:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi MacMillan??: you rock!
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 6:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    1.) Cyndi. : ) Okay, yeah - arguments, but poetry is so subjective... Generally, we are all such individuals that we will have radically different outlooks on certain things - and yet we still see people stating their case as if their way somehow 'has' to be externally correct. A basic truth for people is that we all make a huge amount of assumptions, from a very basic level on up.
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 6:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    2.) Where the assumptions diverge is argument's origin. Not saying there is nothing objective at work - we could examine "what is best to do if you really want to be published," for example. There, a desire is identified, and there's a logical course to maximize one's chances of success. Something like that can be better debated/argued (in my opinion) than the raw merits of all poetry, itself.
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 6:12:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    3.) Not that it's not an incredibly interesting discussion, and I think Ruben is right - we should have a debate/argument/discussion.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 6:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Your questions are making me tired! LOL! Will come back. (If the blog is still up.) Time for my girl!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 6:00:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It's like Catholicism vs Protestantism, or Sunni vs Shia.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:56:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Doug. You are making me laugh! For hundreds of years, poets have been arguing about poetry with each other (history will show some have lead to some MAJOR rows) Then came free verse. Whew! The ruckus!
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 5:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Mary Ann, by the way - no contest, though of course that is just my opinion.
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 5:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hard for me to believe the amount of apparently serious rancor. Or maybe not... : ) (I come from 30 or 40 thousand hours of online debate and arguing, about philosophy, religion, abortion, politics, economics, Mary Ann or Ginger, etc.) But wow - to be arguing about poetry...
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 4:17:00 PM
    Dan, the biggest obstacle I see on Soup is that in order to like a poet you must like her or his poetry. There are several people who may like me, but feel that my poetry is too ambiguous and esoteric for their tastes. In fact, they can't STAND my poetry. And I'm okay with that. I'd rather just hang out with them. The thing is, on this site, it's almost expected of a poet that they like everything. Feelings get hurt and people equate their verses with their like-ability. I can respect a poet but still not enjoy their poetry-- but NOT HERE. It's not about being better...its' about being different. And that should be allowed. There are hundreds of reasons people leave Soup. Some have left due to illness. Some had personal issues -- marriages that needed more attention. Some had surgery and needed time to heal. Some outgrew the site and were looking for something different. Some felt it was too constrictive and wanted the freedom to use whatever word they chose to convey their message. Some felt ignored, forgotten, taken for granted (Sorry, Lighthouse.)

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    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 6:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Based on the insecurities of the author, only.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 6:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yes, I am also referring to a specific soup-style slam.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 6:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Anger against injustice, brutality and fascism can give birth to some fresh, thoughtful and true poetry. K?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:59:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    So, I wasn't addressing true slam. I was addressing Soup slam.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Slam however about world issues, against government, against FGM, against child labour? Well, I wish to read more of that. Slam poverty. Slam police brutality. Slam oppression.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Excellent point, Cyndi. I realized that about slam (style) poetry, and accepted my faults. I don't need to waste more time with it, and that includes reading it, which helps me stream-line who I read, because many of the self-righteous here have 'slam' pieces on their list.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Slams are usually hurt feelings or envy in overdrive. I read about 20 poets here, only. I wish I could read more and not feel pressured to leave anything more than "How are you doing. What's new in your life?" And I'd be genuine with that. Really care how they are...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    What I mean by "better poet" is not better than them. I only compare my poetry against my own poetry. This is where I was (ugh) this is where I am (mmm? needs work) this is where I'd like to be (Okay. It's only Mt. Everest. One more step...)
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yup. Still, I actually appreciate their unkindness and their "holiness than thou" because it made me determined to be a better poet and I STILL have so much to learn. Their egos made me lose mine. I accepted rejections, tried harder, and I learned to accept constructive criticism (which is a GIFT because somebody cared enough about my poetry to offer a suggestion!)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:36:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Notice who writes the 'slam' pieces now? It's hilarious.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I get it, Cyndi. And the bullies say "how dare you!" when you stand up for yourself against them...then they play victim, as if it was a one-person tango all along.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It doesn't make me better. It makes me able to stand up and say, "This is poetry. This is my poetry. Don't like it? Fine by me, but you may NO LONGER say it is NOT poetry. Cause it is... and an editor with ten years experience, 12 published poetry books and a national award said, 'it's great!'
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ..."I was born in the back seat of a Greyhound bus, rollin' down highway 41...". You know, that might explain a few things. .
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I literally home-schooled myself on poetry. Read six hours a day-- published works, articles by established poets, everything I could get my hands on about poetics. I went to town! Now, I'm pulling back a bit, learning about my own voice, my own preferences, some broken rules, balance...
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    See, that's making something positive from the experience. Every hater has been a motivator for me, on some sort of level. Instead of, "*Waa-waa*, it's all your fault!"
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @cyndi I answered you way down on Deb's comment, for what it's worth
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:19:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    "that I was born a ramblin man"
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    One of my motivators for getting published was the "that isn't a poetry, its prose" crap that was slung at me FOR YEARS ON SOUP. I got so fed up that I proved them wrong by getting my poetry published in literary journals. So I thank them. Will kiss each one. You darling egomaniacs pushed me right towards publication.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Again, its poetry camps. I have a solution. But people would need to be mature enough to follow through. It would mean forgetting ego, trying something different.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    "when it's time for leavin' I hope you'll understand..."
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi, there's a lot of history that includes me standing up for free verse after 'rhymers' kept carving it for years. I always said that free verse includes rhyme. Anyway, the 'hate-fest' was meant to be a one-way street for the people involved, and I drove against traffic, which pissed off people who believe that free speech means "the freedom to say only what I agree with". When I voice my opinion, it isn't specific to a distinct individual/name.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Dan, I am not so easily deceived. In the replies of another comment, you literally mentioned that you would come back to this blog to see my reply, and state that my reply won't be anything good. Again, you play the victim with your "couldn't you have soupmailed me instead blahblah". You engaged with me here, rang my doorbell, so to speak. I answered the door. Then you type, "Give it a rest!" Don't engage and then ask for me to give it a rest when I reply. If you want a rest, take a rest lol.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:00:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am curious. Dan, why do you feel that any comment Chris made was directed SPECIFICALLY to you?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 4:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    others may not like my poetry for the same reason. They like rhyme. They don't want figurative language etc etc. The problem would be solved if we'd just agree IT'S OKAY TO NOT LIKE EACH OTHER'S POETRY.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 4:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    So all the world can see? Dude, you came at me on this blog, not via soupmail. Why would I respond via soupmail when the reply option is here on the blog? I like that you are openly confrontational. "many others" don't like how I "Blog Bash" some people? So, many people don't like how I voice my opinion about some topics? Right on. I'll continue to stand my ground in the face of adversity.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 4:32:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    If we're being honest here. I like almost everybody on soup and wish well to one and all. I like the poets. But I know what I like to read. I enjoy reading free verse that employs strong, figurative language, no perfect rhyme, metaphoric imagery and precise line breaks.
    Kearley Avatar Dan Kearley Date: 4/19/2017 4:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Chris, I sent you a soup mail. Please read it! And no, I'm not angry or hurt about anything from 4 or 5 yrs ago? Its just me (and many others) on this site don't like the way you, and a few others, Blog Bash some people on this site! See You had to do it again! So all the world can see... Give it a rest! Next time soup mail me with your opinion, and I will reply promptly.
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 12:50:00 PM
    Thank you all for commenting. The answers, I see, are self explanatory. I get all that-content, impress, express, quality,sentiment, give more receive more, traffic limited. Still I wrote not for my benefit, but also for the new poets to this site that may be asking the same question. A lot of what has been discussed and what hits home with me is "what do you want to get from all this," which makes perfect sense. These messages, healing to me, are like antidotes in my confusion and I thank those again for responding.

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    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 3:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    That you got something out of this rambling blog is a credit to you lol. Ooh, now I gotta bust out Ramblin' man. "Lord I was born a Ramblin' man..."
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 1:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :) Connie, everyone here was once a newcomer and some have come/gone/come/gone for years. You'll find the groove that works for you. I like your 'can-opener' approach to Soup. One thing I forgot to say: if one person connected with your work and commented? That one person is someone to appreciate and is not a 'nothing.' I know you didn't mean it that way, though!
  1. Date: 4/19/2017 8:03:00 AM
    Hi Connie...one aspect...as Deb mentioned...quality content...(hey, no darts! my work is mostly labelled adolescent poetry! cool!) but...love to discover gems washed up on our shores! yes...quite a bit similar to my treasure hunts on the shores of Lk Superior early-am following a Nor'Easter...shipwreck pcs...glass marbles (warn ship relics) things that twist your imagination...same here!

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  1. Date: 4/19/2017 2:22:00 AM
    Connie , change ya avatar , put some lippy on and smile for the camera, ...or look at this site as a place to drop stuff off that might be of interest, ... or even shock..but do not think that because you get no comments and only a few reads you aren't good....you are x

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  1. Date: 4/18/2017 9:53:00 PM
    Depends on your way of thinking,are you are looking to post poems interact with some poets or are you looking for applause..I've been on sites you have mentioned, heck at yahoo me and 12 other poets published an anthology book of poems that is still on amazon..so seems to me adulation is more important to you than writing poetry..just one more thing I've etched poems in the sand just to watch the tide come in and wash them away which is to let you know for me I really don't care if my poetry is read by thousands...one person is enough for me..life is way to short to be concerned about such a small thing if you are truly a poet, you write because you have to express, not impress

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    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 3:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @agnes. I appreciate your point of view. For the third time now - to each his/her own. No hard feelings
    Parker Avatar Frederic Parker Date: 4/19/2017 2:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    nice to see you are still around Cyndi, and yes everyone is close to water in Florida, take care dear poet
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 2:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    No one is going to push my buttons today. This is a kinder, gentler seeker. Cyber hugs to all. Mwah!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 2:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    There's a lot of the pot calling the kettle black. I think it isn't so much about "the rest of us don't fit into your perfect little worlds", as it is that I don't fit into your perfect, little world. As I've always stated from the beginning here on PS, I am far from perfect, and have posted a lot of weak, shitty poems. And even so, when I take breaks from this site, I don't blame you for it, even if you might be one of the causes why I take a break. The guilt-trips and angles of superiority used to counter supposed superiority, are old and worn. I need to always better myself because I am far from perfect. Instead of blaming other people for your short-comings, look in the mirror and better yourselves. The guilt-trip, cry-baby angle, mixed with your holier-than-thou attitude, might work for you to get an extra cookie.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 2:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Educating Rita. My life.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 2:27:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Frederic, I so envy you living close to water! We vacation for one week in a town on the shores of Lake Huron... it is my idea of Heaven (though I don't think I'd feel that way in February! Brrr) Have a great day- back to mom time! Cheers and nice to talk to you. :)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 2:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Dan, I was being sarcastic about how much time one needs to spend to be a "Soup superstar". That doesn't have anything to do with wot you are getting at in your replies regarding poetry itself, whether or not it includes misspellings, etc. As for knowledge, I am gaining new knowledge all the time, because I don't know that much. I think that the bone that you have to pick with me, might be about our past together on this site.
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 2:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    No need to be sorry, Dan. I knew exactly what you meant and it holds true no matter where on the blog it was placed. ;-)
    Kearley Avatar Dan Kearley Date: 4/19/2017 2:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sorry Lin, this was in reply to what Chris D. Aechtner, had written. It's stuff like that, that's scared many people away from this site I think?
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 1:46:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You can use "won't," "will not," or anything you choose, Dan. I won't nit pick at you and I commend you for writing what many others think but have not stood tall enough to express. No one's poetry should be bashed in public, and it's disrespectful of those who chide others to think they are superior. This is far from a perfect world and there are those here who are "full of themselves." It's evident in their comments, but it only serves to show them in the dimmest of light.
    Kearley Avatar Dan Kearley Date: 4/19/2017 1:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I haven't been here for quite some time, the day I come back this is what I find? "The holier than thou club" ripping apart peoples hopes and dreams with their super abundance of knowledge. It's comments such as this, that keep people away! When people start bashing your poetry, your misspellings, your comments. Why would anyone want to come here? Some of you are so full of yourselves, the rest of us just don't fit into your perfect little worlds. If you would take more time to respect other peoples poetry, word use, and lives. Rather than nit pick their poetry and comments apart, the world could be a better place! I'll be back to see what your super intelligence has to say. I'm sure it won't (will not) be anything good.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 1:26:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Still, I do see both points, Agnes. Writing is artistic expression. Poetry is a literary art. Art is usually shared, to communicate an idea or emotion. I do think some poetry should NOT be shared, is really about self-healing and self-nurturing. It's not the subject... but how it is handled. It is intentionally art? That is the key, I think, mho.
    Krampe Avatar Agnes Krampe Date: 4/19/2017 1:25:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    What I choose to share on a public forum is not necessarily the same as what I write for myself at any given time. Some poems I kept to myself for many years before I was ready to share them. And some things I post are specifically written for the occasion, many contest entries for example, that I view like piano etudes: finger practice. Doing the contests gives me the incentive to play with forms and themes I would not otherwise explore. I am under no illusion that all my contest contributions are "good" poetry. But they still help me become better, and it's just more fun to do it this way than to work through workshop books on my own :)
    Krampe Avatar Agnes Krampe Date: 4/19/2017 1:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Seeker: poems may be "words on paper", but they have already touched the heart of their author. Sometimes, that is all a poem needs to do. At least some of the time, some of us, write for ourselves. Writing has helped me tremendously over some rough spots, and the intent was not to share these poems. They were for me. So, I think the rose does not need a human eye to see it. It is fine just by existing all on its own.
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 1:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I see even more clearly now why FJ called you what she did. I have bound journals of my writes and do read them over. You might want to read a few more from The Book to see if you can discern why two of your spiritual sisters find cause to question your comments. I will not call you out further for the rafter in your eye.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 12:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    And yet you both post on a public forum. Hmmm... Like I said, to each his/her own. Why not post in a private journal and just read over and over to yourself? That's what I thought. Cheers
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 11:57:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I applaud your comments, Frederic. Not all poets write to garner accolades from others. If I'm content with what I've written, it really doesn't matter what others think. I also agree with your thinking that sentiment is what matters most.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 11:46:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    We can agree to disagree Fred, with no harm done. To each his own. Poetry is a form of communication. While it's true I can talk to myself (hopefully not in public, right?) I'd much rather share conversation with someone else
    Parker Avatar Frederic Parker Date: 4/19/2017 11:28:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    seeker poems may be words on paper to you, to the poet they are more whether anyone reads them or a thousand read them, it is the sentiment of the poem that is of concern to the poet, those that have a soul of a poet know that, your argument is from the point of view of a reader..if no one sees the sun rise does it stay dark?
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 11:17:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sentient, not sentiment lol
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 10:20:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    And poems are just words on paper... Til they touch a human heart
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 10:17:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Fred, roses aren't sentiment. We are and can appreciate them. :)
    Parker Avatar Frederic Parker Date: 4/19/2017 9:43:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Keith it helps to live close to a beach..Seeker a rose doesn't care if its seen or smelled, it's still a rose, whether real or imagined in the mind of a poet..one of my favorite quotes is "you don't know what you don't know"
    Trestrail Avatar Keith Trestrail Date: 4/19/2017 2:36:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Frederic, I'm curious, mate. Just how did you write your poems in the sand? I could probably manage a monoku but a sonnet??? Now that's talent!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @Tom.. I do get that poetry is wonderful when it means something to the reader. But I think of Emily Dickinson who kept all that beauty to herself... the act of releasing her thoughts and observations onto a page was enough.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:02:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I've done sand-poe's, too, Frederic. It's oddly cleansing.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 10:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    i have to disagree fred. poetry is meant to be read, embraced, cherished. one of my fave quotes is: Poetry that has never been read or heard is like a rose that has never been seen or smelled. it may indeed exist, but has yet to bring pleasure to anyone." of course, numbers for the sheer sake of numbers is hollow. quality matters
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I love this response, Frederic.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    "Poem pic-a-phile"!!! Hysterical! Too much talent on these comments.
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 9:21:00 PM
    Depends on wot you're looking for. Generally (some are able to manage it outside the bell-curve), to maintain a consistent, prolonged level of Soup stardom, you will need to re-direct the time that you allocate towards real life endeavors, and spend it here instead. Spend large amounts of your time leaving many comments with many different people; the comments don't have to be deep comments—"Nice one/Wow!/This is a masterpiece!/Lovely/A 7", will work just fine. Leave many comments like that every week, along with hosting contests, near daily blogs, postings of quatrains, limericks, rhymed sexual innuendo/semi-disguised porn, and you'll have tons of views before you know it. If you find yourself spending the majority of your time here, instead of enjoying life in the real world, that's a sign that the views will escalate, and consistently remain on the high end for you.

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    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    sigh. now i gotta look up dojo
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Always respect the dojo, first and foremost.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    But damn well block an attack. Respect the dojo, right?
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Push-ups laddie, that's the ticket! Or run ten miles. You'll feel much better. Cyber hug your way
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am not exactly in a fighting mood. Don't misinterpret my stance. I have a blackbelt for a reason, and have memorized all the kata. Don't strike first, is one the things we were taught right away.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You're in a fighting mood with Dan. Our 30 day trial ended. Now behave. This is heat theeker, not Dan
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 5:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Don't want the stew to burn while it's still in the cooking process.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:11:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I already answered you. You're trying to stir the pot. Cyber hugs to all
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 4:52:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Good analogy, Cyndi. Tom, I am being serious with my question; it's not meant to be heavy-handed. I am truly curious, and ask the question without trying to be mean.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 4:39:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @Tom. YA THINK? Put hundreds of poets into a tight space, encourage them to tell each other they are poetry GODS, worthy ONLY of praise, turn on high, walk away from the Soup pot and ignore as things boil over.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 4:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Though PS does at times seem to be a hotbed for releasing pent up emotions lol
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 4:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    No one is fighting Quiff, and everyone is imperfect and have differences of opinion. Be nice
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 4:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Is this phenomenon of JW brothers and sisters fighting each other, widespread, or a closed-network circumstance linked to specific variables here at PS? I've wanted to ask that question for a while now.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 3:05:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Mwah!
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 1:04:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I suggest you keep your distance and your hugs to yourself.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 12:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hugs to you too linny
    Lane Avatar Lin Lane Date: 4/19/2017 11:58:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Bravo to you, FJ, for calling it like you see it.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 9:08:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hugs Flojo hugs. Try an herbal tea dear
    Thomas Avatar FJ Thomas Date: 4/19/2017 8:43:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I blocked you for being a condescending jerk to other people on my blog. If you didn't get that by now then you're good right where you are.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:53:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It's all good Flojo. Here's a big cyber hug. Have a great week
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:24:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Funny comment Flo, since you blocked me for disagreeing with you about contest types, not the reverse. Does that mean your a boob? Jus asking ;)
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:33:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    (the Earth is very small. Shrinks more each day. I palmed it last night.)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    (the Earth is very old)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :DDDD!!
    Thomas Avatar FJ Thomas Date: 4/18/2017 10:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Don't know Tom. Have you stopped being a pretentious boob to everyone who doesn't agree with you??
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:14:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :DDDDDDDD!!!!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    When engaged in these types of comments, it's a good idea to have a fallout shelter...you know, to protect against the henchmen of those who "never read the blogs" :DD!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 9:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    lol Heat-Theeker
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:46:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hey Flo, am I unblocked yet? Quith unblocked me and now we're best buds. Well, not really, but we have more fun now
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie paycheck has left the building...
    Thomas Avatar FJ Thomas Date: 4/18/2017 9:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Lolol it's funny cuz it's true! .....(stepping awaaay from the comment box).
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:42:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I am now oddly munchy.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    (Cyndi raises hand, admits to once being a poem pic-a-phile. Now she is a blog pic-a-phile. There is a marginal difference, she claims. She also now prefers journals without accompanying art... but is a sell-out and submits to any literary journal that pays... pics or no pics. Writerly tramp!)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 9:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I considered adding the importance of pictures (Hey Theeker). Yeah, tons of pictures can help with return visits.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:37:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    You forgot to mention the "butt-effect" created by posting pictures and how most Soupers got all crazy-obsessed view-dependent visiting and re-visiting and visiting again just to contemplate the photos. : D
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    What you said is sad but true. But alas, also necessary to some degree, at least the interaction part. No one can afford to be a diva on an amateur poetry site. You get out what you put in. But I think we all agree - quality over quantity. Hey Quiff, what up?
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:30:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Waaaaaa hahaha! !!! "Prolonged level of Soup stardom"!! You cracked me up!
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    ROFLMAO. Orrrrrrrrrr... become a rabble-rouser, write as if each poem is a new sentient being, strange yet familiar. Be yourself at all costs. Be honest and paint your poetry page with observations. Learn the craft and go bonsai on words until definitions are questioned... in the best way.
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 8:41:00 PM
    When I was on DeviantArt a few years I racked up nearly a quarter million views and over 7300 faves with that mostly younger, trendier crowd. Of course, it's a huge site with a gazillion members so that helped. Here your numbers, to a degree, will reflect how much your willing to GIVE, not just receive. I don't see you commenting much on others work. Get involved, and up your game. Your blog has poor word choices, some misspelled words, and it comes off whiny. Few are gonna be attracted to that. I say that in all kindness. Up your game, get involved, watch the numbers grow

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    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    www.poemhunter.com/poem/song-for-a-summer-s-day/ Plath. One you 'may' like. Lovely, romantic, lite on figurative, rhymes and ends with a sweet last line.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 8:48:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Of course, let me say that doesn't mean she wasn't talented. She obviously has a following, but that doesn't mean I have to like her style. Britney Spears has made millions off of her (ahem) vocal talent. I wouldn't pay 50 cents for one of her CDs. Someone else may say her voice sends them to the moon. The world keeps spinning...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    BRB
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 8:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I haven't read many of hers, admittedly. The few i did seemed (to me) like free verse gibberish
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 8:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    :DDD Plath RHYMED. And Guess what? I adore Edna St Vincent Millay. Have some of her books. PS-- I will post one of my word pairings blogs. Check them out. Guaranteed gobblygook will start to be crystal clear.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    comment was for cyndi below
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:07:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    here's where we disagree, and it's okay. you like chocolate, i like vanilla. many of the greats were rhyme poets. there is an inherent beauty to it. give me a good Poe rhyme story over Plath gobbledygook anyday
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 6:57:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Oh no, I may joke around a bit, but when it comes to morality that's a sensitive issue. I'm for Bible morality all the way . Porn is the devil's tool
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 5:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Tom - oh, I see. Now that I think about it, it makes sense to me - your disapproval of porn. At first I was thinking that you'd be pretty easy with it, as you seem to normally be for less restrictive deals. To each our own...
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 3:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Thanks Doug, it's just common sense, right? Anyway, I just recently deleted my account there. I wasn't very active past few years due to their allowance of porn. I complained, but to know avail. They have safeguards in place, but easily circumnavigated. Just deleted my SoundCloud account to. Who knows PS may be next
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 2:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Tom, are you still on DeviantArt, and if not, why not? Definitely - "Here your numbers, to a degree, will reflect how much your willing to GIVE, not just receive."
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    he's not his.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Exactly.
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 8:21:00 PM
    Problem #1-- the teeny tiny reply squares under comments. BIG MISTAKE. The social aspect of soup was lost. People used to answer a comment by visiting the commenter's page, a favour returned, so to speak. And many received hundreds of reads. Now, poets talk to themselves in the reply square. That is primary cause. There are others... also, if you do want more hits on your poems, you can choose to hit the checkmark tab by "sister sites." (I've chosen not to be on sister sites... but to each their own.) Contest poems receive the most reads ... lol... because contestants are curious of what their competition has done with the theme. I almost never post poems here anymore as I'm submitting my poetry to literary journals. My motivation has always been to create the best poem I can. I hope you don't go to the 'dark side' of Soup. So often good poets learn that the sexier the poem, the more reads and attention their poetry will receive. A few moans, oh baby-babies and suddenly the views sky-rocket. (like a peep show really.)

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    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/21/2017 12:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi, I think the rhythm and the pacing of a poem can make rhyme compelling, like a good song. That said, yes - it can also be hamfisted, obvious, awkward, etc.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    cyndi, my reply jumped above under seeker
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 6:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Rhyme was used as a device to memorize poetry. This is why children's picture books use rhyme. It helps them to read if there are a pattern of repeating sounds. (as a mom, I've read hundreds of rhyming story books to my daughter.)
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 6:10:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I divorced perfect rhyme without so much as one regret. Though a bit of internal perfect rhyme does suddenly appear... and if I like it, I leave it in. If too much I weed it out.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 6:08:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I use internal rhyme and off rhyme. The reason being is that perfect rhyme has been used to death. cure/sure, Tea/me, jade, made. it's boring. I can even guess most of the time what the last word will be. Then? Forced rhyme! I just don't like it. But I may very much like the poet who used rhyme.
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 5:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Okay, ouch - Debbie: "Too many of the poets here are stuck in rhyme time" - to me this does seem quite harsh. Hey - if pressed I will take free verse above rhymed forms; but would you divorce rhyme from poetry?
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 7:27:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @ian we don't use the word tro_ _ anymore. It attracts heat seeking missiles. I was hit
    MARK Avatar ANTHONY MARK Date: 4/19/2017 5:21:00 AM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Awww ya blog trolled me x
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ian has learned that Soup is not always hospitable and wisely removes his poetry in case the powers that be decides to hold his art ransom. That and his a poetic purist. He truly must write... its about the process not the recognition...
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Like I've always said, this site should have a simple way to announce that the poet 1) is happy with this poem as is 2) would like a few suggestions on how to improve this work 3) would like serious feedback and constructive criticism. The stupid forum is redundant.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @cindy when Deb gave me a few pointers recently I thanked her and made the revisions. I was thrilled to place 1st in one of her contests. We need pushed more
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I wish you could have seen Ian's Holocaust poem. He has this nasty habit of deleting his work. It was so subtle, so heartbreaking. Brilliant
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:56:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @Tom: I said 90 %. There are wonderful writers (and friends!) here, that's the main reason I always keep comin back.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:53:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @Cyndi: my reply in Debbie's comment.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 8:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    When even a PROFESSIONAL poet like Debbie is not only ignored but attacked if she even suggests one line change, then why would she paint a new target on her head and take the abuse? (Numerous publications and a book of traditionally published poetry make her a non-amateur. Her advice is G*O*L*D)
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 8:43:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @ruben there are some wonderful poets here who take chances and occasionally produce something brilliant. Get around more
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 8:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Hmmm... that wasn't fair of me. Some poets here have many followers, write well, understand poetry and have many followers. Some receive thousands of views.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 8:33:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    PS- when a poet gets published in a journal, except for the editor saying they'd like to publish your poem, the poet rarely hears from readers. (I've contacted a few established poets and they were so grateful... several have said it had been years since they received one comment.)
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    This reply was for Debbie
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:29:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The never- ending concept of "roses red/violets blue," which permeates 90% of the posts in Poetry Soup, serves as a benchmark for all the new writers, and, consequently, it disseminates the current/constant state of intellectual stagnation and high-school lyricism.
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 7:50:00 PM
    As a poet who grew tremendously on this site, I agree with Ruben. There is little or no response on this site to what is seen as good poetry in 2017. Too many of the poets here are stuck in rhyme time, quatrains are about as far as they get in learning poetry. I'm here & I help when I can but the attitude here is not serious, too many are simply playing.

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    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:24:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    TOM! PERFECT!!! This is what I'd love to see on SOUP!!!! I totally respect that! And its up to the poet what they see as poetry. WHY IS THIS SO HARD? It's EASY! And yes, Charlotte's writing I get!
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 5:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Cyndi - you, Deb, and Charlotte love to write (at times) in abstract (I should include Ian) ie, unusual word choices and pairings that are difficult for the average reader to understand, since we do not and can not know what's in your head. But I'm not saying it's not good. Just different and there is obviously a place and desire for it. Hey, we agree
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 5:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'd love it if we could just agree that we don't need to love each other's poetry and to acknowledge that no poem automatically should be enjoyed if posted on Soup. To each his own. I'm totally fine if someone wants to say on ANY of my poems, "This isn't my thing. I'd rather ask how your holidays were. How's the family?"
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 4:55:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It kinda appeared to be a perfectly scripted "he walked into that one". I'll behave. Maybe. For a bit at least. Possibly :P.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 4:22:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I'm a one gal guy all the way. :)
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/19/2017 4:04:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    And? Couldn't that reinforce the confessional theory even more? Jus' sayin'...
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/19/2017 3:20:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @chris. I'm married to a gorgeous Asian gal so...
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 2:54:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Brunettes, yes.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:50:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Anyways Chums, I'm toast. I was working on more chapter outlines today, and I gotta hit the ground running as soon as my girl's on the bus. I'm behind on my novel. The whole adsense is weird and not very friendly (it seems) to sites like this one.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:40:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    "Pay attention to your ad clicks. If you average 2 clicks a month and you suddenly get 100 in a day, chances are that something is wrong. If you’ve p---- someone off and they decide to fight back by clicking all over the place, you can get banned even though you didn’t do anything."
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Tom needs to be careful, and slow down with his clicking on ads.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:38:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yup! Read the link!!!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:37:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Over-clicking?
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:34:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    It said "over-clicking can get you banned from adsense."
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:32:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    There are many tricks, including 'forced clicking' (ghost-clicking), when you open something by simply having your cursor move over/near the ad, without clicking. There are also even more devious portals.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yeah, always relying on your own coding can become a headache.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The wordads would have generated some big bucks -- they do use impressions. I'm glad to see they are off the blogs, though... annoying...
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 10:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The "space" to post the ads is intrinsically related to the website "traffic," and yes, there's money there, but the "cream" is in the clicking AND in the eventual business through that clicking.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:24:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    WordAds is a brand for wordpress and now wordpress 'satellites'. But, that doesn't mean that there aren't different brands for different platforms.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:23:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Holy crap! READ THIS! www.nutsandboltsmedia.com/how-does-adsense-work/
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:18:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Okay... I couldn't figure out what happened to the blog formatting (Hey, I've been away for quite a while.) No font colours, no easy sizing of font and ... it reminded me of my own website on Wordpress. (bet you guys already know all this) Wordads are only available for Wordpress?
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:17:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    That's wot I thought.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:15:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Reading about those word ads. Hmmm....
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 10:13:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Just checked. Ruben and Cyndi are BOTH right. Impressions and clicks. Just opening a page which uses adsense generates money. But a click on an ad generates MORE money.
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 10:11:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Well, now we know who generates most of the PS ad revenue :DD!
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 10:03:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    No idea about the videos.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 10:01:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Not to discriminate, but I prefer brunettes, specially from Latin America. @Chris: that was too hard! : DD!
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 9:58:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Wot about the video ads (especially in blogs) that just start playing without clicking on them. When those ads begin to play, do they generate income?
    Aechtner Avatar Chris D. Aechtner Date: 4/18/2017 9:54:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Theeker, was that a confession on your part? :DDDD
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:48:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ruben knows because he always clicks on the ones advertising Asian women. He's keeping PS afloat
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:44:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Who the hell ever clicks on those things? Anyone? I can't fathom it!
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:39:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Yes, that's how it works. The clicks pay.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:32:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    WHAT WHAT WHAT? You mean the ads don't pay to be on the site? (I thought it was like an ad in a newspaper!!!!!!!!) Seriously? A click is needed? That makes no sense...
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:28:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie!! Don't make me go to the bar ... Public disturbance and yelling scenes are my forte! : D Come back and be a good host.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 9:21:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    But, Cyndi, "The ads" are only profitable if we click on them. TPS could fill our pages with ads, but if we ignore them, there are no coins.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:16:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    And what I'm saying is Mr. Soup doesn't care about what the Killjoys think. The killjoys just happen to support the censorship that has made soup worth six figures. If the ads WANTED grit and artistic vision, then he'd have supported the "Freedom Fighters." It was about the dollar, is about the dollar and will always be about the dollar (its in the about Soup. Its a site that is for profit.)
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:51:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    I wanted to make reference to the police-moralist role play by TPS during the last years, which was strictly enforced by a group of killjoy members. Yes, the "family-website" motto could be, as you say, a marketing idea.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 8:45:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Tom, reply above!
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 8:36:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    We need you to keep running thoughtful, challenging contests. Push us, then critique us. Don't just congratulate
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 8:31:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    My reply jumped into Cyndi's comment.
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 7:44:00 PM
    Waaaa hahaha!! Juicy blog!! Indeed, PS is in a comatose state. I blame TPS, I think that Mark "took the road less traveled by, And that has made all the difference" (Frost) He chose to follow the puritan-moralist-prude group of "we're-a-family-website" which bombarded him with constant "concerns" and complaints ... He just developed new policies, implemented arbitrary rules, removed pernicious blogs, banned audacious writers. He made this website boring! : D! Many of the most interesting, talented, original poets left. NOW, regarding the views count. Do the views motivate you? Do they stimulate you? How? Why? They're just views! People click on your poem and leave. What's so stimulating?

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    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/19/2017 3:56:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    @Doug. Not 'that' wimpy. Sexy and sensual are poem categories. However, funniest thing that has happened on soup was PUSSYWILLOWGATE. A Souper tried to have a contest about pussywillows. But we couldn't type pussywillow ... the site was programmed to sensor certain words. Yah. Soupers protested.
    Vinson Avatar Doug Vinson Date: 4/19/2017 2:49:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    While "family-friendly" may mean, all other things being equal, increased ad revenue, in no way does it make up for less website traffic. Sounds to me like they went too wimpy.
    O. Avatar Ruben O. Date: 4/18/2017 10:07:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    PERNICIOUS: having a harmful effect, in a gradual or subtle way, particularly when talking about trolls or Brothertrollhood. : DD
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 9:41:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Define pernicious . hehe
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 9:09:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Ummm......... Split personality?
    pachecho Avatar connie pachecho Date: 4/18/2017 8:50:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Sorry guys. Connie's at bar drinking. Flirting with a bartender 30 years younger. She's friskier. I'm not. Todays been a good day.
    MacMillan Avatar Cyndi MacMillan Date: 4/18/2017 8:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    The path taken had nothing to do with morality. The site generates more money by being considered child-safe. It has to do with the ads and marketing.
    Seeker Avatar The Seeker Date: 4/18/2017 8:35:00 PM Block poet from commenting on your poetry

    Connie's turning out to be an excellent tro_ _, if not a bit whiny. Let's have some fun...
  1. Date: 4/18/2017 7:08:00 PM
    Connie it is a fair question. In actuality this site has a lower "active" member count than others. That is obvious by the number of submitted poems (by different individuals), comments left by different people, and contests run and entry numbers. Other sites simply have higher active member numbers.

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