OwenYeates

Date: 1/10/2013 12:42:00 PM

Hi Frank I think we should not abuse each other as poets if you do not have any thing nice to say about someones hard work then you should say nothing at all, we all come here for the love of words nad poetry and freindship which you and quite a few others have offered me in abundance i thank you all for that, and may those who think of leaving due to insults stand tall and stay with us godd buddy, all the best Owen

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CatieLindsey

Date: 1/9/2013 6:35:00 PM

Becca, I only vaguely recall your blog on rape, and really did not keep up with the comments. Honestly though, there are many good people here, far more in numbers than the jerks, so why not give it another chance. In a community atmosphere like this, we can really only agree to disagree, and hopefully no one gets hurt over that. Hateful comments are not acceptable, but many will disagree, and do not really intend to be hateful, they are just disagreeing. In time, your skin will thicken. love and hugs, Catie :)

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AndreaDietrich

Date: 1/9/2013 6:03:00 PM

frank, I have made myself late for the gym and I really wanted to read your comments you got. Anyway, just really fast: I don't know Becca well, but I sure enjoyed her poetry and I hope she does not leave. Like someone famous once said, :Why can't we all just get along?? (who said that anyway?)

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CyndiMacMillan

Date: 1/9/2013 2:52:00 PM

Glad you put up this blog, Frank, and hopefully Becca will reconsider. We need poets like her on the soup. Thank you. Cyndi

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CharlottePuddifoot

Date: 1/9/2013 1:16:00 PM

it seems to be the case that every so often these sort of situations blow up; I wasn't here in the early days but from what I've read in the comments made back then it does seem that there was a more lighthearted and supportive atmosphere; it may be that the soup is a microcosm of the wider world and reflects a general increase in stresses and frustrations which were not as prevalent back then...let's hope there will be a return to happier times :)

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RubenO.

Date: 1/9/2013 12:38:00 PM

@ Rebecca. ..By the way, you can't leave PS because I've not finished my tale about the "Two ladies" yet...: )

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RubenO.

Date: 1/9/2013 12:29:00 PM

@ Sandy. Rebecca told me why she removed her blog about "rape and the Bible"...Neither Deborah, nor the rape, nor the Bible had anything to do about it. She had another reasons. And regarding the TPS blog about "sexually explicit" poems, if someone was a "little" sarcastic it was me ...and I've already apologized to Rebecca.

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CarrieRichards

Date: 1/9/2013 9:54:00 AM

People who are thoughtful, would never cause hurt feelings......it is as simple as that. If a comment is made on a poem in a constructive manner (and not as a personal insult)... most people can receive it graciously without feeling attacked. If we listen to our mother's advice..."If you can't say something nice...don't say anything at all".......it is still good advice. I remember receiving a mean remark from one person who has commented below that caused me to soupmail her and ask "why?" .... It was unnecessarily mean spirited, and had nothing to do with who I was or what I was saying. I still don't quite understand why people need to cause unpleasantness. I am not sensitive, and have a tough skin, but when something comes for no reason...I have to stand up to it.

frank herrera Date: 1/9/2013 11:04:00 AM

CARRIE! Your's is probably the exemplary standard of 'Grace and Class' everyone here should strive to emulate. And there is no other Soul, i look more forward to...to grace a blog of mine than yours...thank you for your input!

Suzette Crous Date: 1/9/2013 10:16:00 AM

Well said, Carrie :-)

CarrieRichards

Date: 1/9/2013 9:54:00 AM

cont..........If you don't like a poem or even the writer...just leave them alone. No comment is necessary.....and you have no idea what may be happening in their personal life. Any pain you cause, may simply be the last straw to break their spirit. (My 2 cents worth! Thanks Frank for the opportunity to speak out....there is enough hurt/pain/hate in this world)!

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frankherrera

Date: 1/9/2013 9:37:00 AM

BECCA, If you see this: Please come back...We need your awesome talent here...and how can you refuse this little guy (My avatar) Who simply adores you! I'm not trying to be funny...I'm very serious here! I just try to put my best face forward always.

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Joann Grisetti Date: 1/9/2013 11:57:00 AM

such a cute photo. so hopeful and full of life.

JoeFlach

Date: 1/9/2013 9:07:00 AM

A sad situation indeed. For over three years, I had been on the sideline watching fights and bickering from afar but never getting caught up in the middle and always free from hate mail. Didn't quite make it to four years, sad to say, as the haters have now found me. But hey, as Winston Churchill once said: "You have enemies? Good. That means you stood up for something, sometime in your life." Sorry to see Becca go - seems like we only just got to know ya. Joe

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SandyIvy D

Date: 1/9/2013 8:54:00 AM

Sorry you think my comment is mean. I only came here to vent like everyone else. Please do not use my words as an example to shun poets away from me. I have nothing against no one here. The only one poet i cannot stand leaves sexual comments on my soup mail. She's under a females name.

Sandy Ivy D Date: 1/9/2013 9:15:00 AM

Like everyone else here I'm a little blunt when I speak. I am not here to debate anything against you or any other poet. I was simply venting and adding concerne to the reasons. I can not see why you would leave. Either then all the drama one obnoxious male poet caused. I do not like seeing poets leave the soup. Or talk about leaving. Why not make peace and stay? Many of the poets on the soup come with thin skin. Your a lovely poet

Sandy Ivy D Date: 1/9/2013 8:56:00 AM

I was only refreshing my own memory. Thank you again frank. I knew you are kind and loving

FrancineRoberts

Date: 1/9/2013 8:20:00 AM

I had no idea Becca had left, I didn't read the blog Sandy referred to but I can see it might have stirred the pot a bit, i have had hate mail in the past too, but I didn't let him drive me off, maybe after she's had time to think about it she will be back, its sad when talented poets leave us

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SandyIvy D

Date: 1/9/2013 8:08:00 AM

Thank you Frank for allowing us too vent on your blog in the most gracious way. You are adored by all.............. SandyIvy

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DebraSquyres

Date: 1/9/2013 7:57:00 AM

I must say I am perplexed by all this. I don't know if I even knew this person or not. But these things should not go unreported. Sad, so sad.

Sandy Ivy D Date: 1/9/2013 8:06:00 AM

You have every right to be mad frank. Poor becca. It is sad to see her delete her poems. I believe she has reason either than hate mail. Isn't she the one who rowed up a blog about rape. How she did not agree with one of our all time lovely PMers Deb's comment on what the bible portrays about rape. I think even then she removed her blog over the trouble she ignited. I also followed other blogs where she spoke a little out of hand in a sarcastic way towards another poets. Maybe that is why she had hate mail. Who knows? No one is innocent in this ball game. I watched her use another poets name during a debate with a drawn out poet who made no difference on the soup. I truly feel bad she felt she had to remove her poems. But instead of pointing fingers we should all look away when certain blogs or poems bother us. Why speak up if we can not handle the heat. I have nothing against no one here. In a way I assume we are all bored of life and come here to vent one way or another

DebbieGuzzi

Date: 1/9/2013 5:51:00 AM

So sorry to hear Becca has left, we had a budding friendship. Friends don't have to agree on everything, and it should be possible to leave comments which are not hate filled? perhaps Becca will return when she has had some time to heal certainly the number of supportive folks here out weighs the ones who write hate mail?

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harryhorsman

Date: 1/9/2013 4:20:00 AM

i also had mail yesterday, another one of us as left,,, i too Frank am perplex about the whole issue here at the moment.. yesterday i saw posted what seemed like hundreds of poems by one person.. ok maybe joined from another site, but why not a few each day..anyhow i digress, yes this hate aspect is a major problem,, also the innuendoes, and grooming... good post Frank.. we certainly do need each other here on soup..

harry horsman Date: 1/9/2013 9:18:00 AM

yes but was asked not to say..sorry i have to respect their wishes...oh yes i've had the sutble type of innuendoes, bloody crazy this is getting...

David Williams Date: 1/9/2013 5:06:00 AM

Harry are you saying you had hate mail or someone other than Becca has left?

DavidWilliams

Date: 1/9/2013 3:08:00 AM

Frank it is the people who send these hate mails should have their account deleted not the victim....Becca is a great talent here...David

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MandyTams The Golden Girl

Date: 1/9/2013 2:26:00 AM

When I first started to post Frank, I was welcomed to a' haven of peace', that seems so long ago and so far away. As Seren says when it happens both she and I have found friends that support and not bitch, and it is those supportive friends that keep me here. It is such a shame that people cannot live and let get on with things. Sorry another of your friends has left Frank maybe after reading your blog she may consider another go. Happy New Year, it never lasts long does it!!!

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DavidWilliams

Date: 1/9/2013 2:04:00 AM

Frank I fully agree, this should be a place to post a poem and get polite help if needed, a place to discuss poetry and poems, who has gone now?...David

Suzette Crous Date: 1/9/2013 2:21:00 AM

Yes, she wrote to me as well. What can be done about this? This is not an isolated case.

frank herrera Date: 1/9/2013 2:13:00 AM

Hi David, THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT. It is BECCA LUCAS who left.

frank herrera Date: 1/9/2013 2:12:00 AM

Hi DAVID, Thank you for your support. BECCA LUCAS left.

Suzette Crous

Date: 1/9/2013 12:41:00 AM

Amen to that, Frank. Funny that it seems to me to be the same culprits time and again. Yes, I had the same "warm welcome". The only reason that I am still here is that I enjoy a large number of poets' work AND their opinions - such as yours. This habit some have to send hate mail to especially new poets (most with potential), MUST STOP.

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SerenRoberts

Date: 1/9/2013 12:34:00 AM

Thats sad, i am pleased to say my friends ralled around me when it happened to me. Glad I didnt run away I would miss you all....Seren

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JancarlCampi

Date: 1/9/2013 12:33:00 AM

You are so right. Many here need to grow up.

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