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Pathetic Notions

People can claim all sorts of nonsense that love is unconditional, or should be. The bible itself does 
not even make such a claim in the teachings of changing for God, changing to better man, changing 
for oneself and changing to love another human being as properly called. Why does man feel that 
something is owed to them when they have not proved their worthiness of love that is due? I am not 
Jesus to just offer it like he does. Human beings need to be respected, loved and honored, and 
showing some sort of courage for the human race.

I offer my love and tenderness openly to those who deserve it. That does not mean that I do not 
care about their general well being or health, but I will not be made to feel guilty of lies being fed of 
unconditional love that does not exist?

So your wife sits around and does not clean? Did you say "fine", let us live this way, who cares?

No, you did not. Conditions exist.

I will not buy into unconditional love, for even the bible rebukes such a fairy tale and pathetic
notion.

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  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:42:00 AM

    lol enjoy your time away...yeah would love that book...lefties LOL...you are more liberal with Christianity then I am LOL but I love my sister very much...LOL...you have always had way more patience though...all those years my life was in a pit, you were Christian but kept opening your door...but you did mention you prayed I would be woken LOL

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:20:00 AM

    Anyway gotta fly- Hubby and girl at book store. I have a thousand things to do - packing, cleaning, organizing etc for tomorrow. I developed pictures of CHERRY CHEEKS ;-) and will send them out today, too- she is sooooooooooooo cute! You're right, a real dollie-girl!!! Miss you all, and soooooooo looking forward to the May visit when I can spoil my sister and niece and watch the cousins play once again. Will pray about that job and hope you get good news soon. Love you much, as always---xox

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:17:00 AM

    If you would like the book, I can mail it to you next week once we get back. As I said, you may put the book down in exasperation- but it IS worth the effort. Anyhow LOL Yes Cyndi Lou Who... :-) still makes me smile, though that friend and I haven't talked for a long, long time. I still care about her very much, but (just like we've been talking about) she was trying to control me and did not accept me for who I am. So I let her go...and pray for her often. I hope she has found happiness

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:11:00 AM

    From the Power of a Praying Wife: "WHY ME, GOD! HE is the one who needs to change." God: The point is not who NEEDS to change, but who is WILLING to change. "But God, that is NOT FAIR!!" God: I never said life is fair, I said I AM fair. Someone has to be willing to start" IT IS A GREAT BOOK. But I almost refused to read it- it's so hard to ... lose that ... pride, I guess. When I started to really get the book, to pray for my hubby, our lives did change for the better. WOULD YOU LIKE THE BOOK?

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:06:00 AM

    A quote from the book, "Don't say I didn't warn you. When you pray for your husband, you can expect some changes. But the first changes won't be in HIM. They'll be in YOU. If this makes you as mad as it made me, you'll say, "Wait a minute! I'm not the one who needs changing!!But God sees things differently." One more quote to follow...

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 7:00:00 AM

    We are all so falible, we stumble and fall- some over and over and over. How much each relationship is able or should take is such an individual decision- one I couldn't (NOW) advise another about (unless physical safety is threatened). A BOOK I SUGGEST (check it out on the net): The Power of a Praying Wife By Stormie OMartin. Man, I had a HARD time reading that (she is a conservative Rightie Christian and I am a liberal lefty Christian) However, it discusses what you are talking about--CHANGE

  1. Date: 4/18/2011 6:55:00 AM

    Hmmm, I really would have to grapple with that one. I think every relationship is unique and can't be quantified. Say, for example, a couple is together for 30 yrs- they have gone through much, loved much and raised children. Suddenly one of them changes- say a gambling addiction- and lies, keeps secrets, loses everything- house, car etc...does the other leave him right away? Or accept a major slip up--maybe a series of slip ups- where they try to change, but fail. They WANT to change, but can't

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 10:17:00 PM

    just so perfect to because of louise..cyndi lou who who just turned too ROFL..your friend was clever..

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 10:16:00 PM

    yeah but the bible says cyndi that we are to change..it even says come out of the whatever..crap I focus more on the prophecy books...sorry...PAULS BOOKS..one of those books says to move away from that bunch..the ones not changing? that does not sound like it is without conditions lou lou HEHEHE i will never forget you telling me she called you cyndi lou who from grinch stole christmas..

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 10:15:00 PM

    yes i wish them well always...I should have been clearer...one man, one woman,,man is deceitful, betrayer, liar, whichever..like all around dog..you give them chances but nothing happens, do you lay around and say stay here...with me...and I love you unconditionally while you cheat on me and lie to me? no..not even the bible says that..the bible says to change..

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 6:49:00 PM

    I chose to read the bible cover to cover- I read it too fast- but I remember reading about Joseph and his brothers and all he endured and yet he still loved them and forgave them and even provided for them. I cried when I read that because people had told me that I wouldn't like the old testament because there was no love, mercy or grace in it. HA! It still gets me when I read about Joseph- would have love to see Donny Osmond and the technicolour dreamcoat!!

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 6:44:00 PM

    I really had to think about this one. Then it came to me. Being in a relationship and love (the Christian way of loving) are not necessarily related. You can end a relationship yet still love the other person - as in wish them well, pray for them and hope that they find eventual happiness. Some people even divorce and their love changes from romantic love to the love of friends. I DO- however- understand your point of view. In the bible I think of Joseph and His brothers or the Prodigal son...

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 6:59:00 AM

    yeah i know that happens, but if you are with a man that has betrayed you, lied to you, is a drunk, choosing the wrong friends and he wont change at all is what I am implying..

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 5:32:00 AM

    Ahhhhh, but then that isn' 'real' love. Parental love, the love for a child for his/her parents - sadly even when abuse occurs, sibling love and true, deep romantic love - that kind of love is often unconditional- people have cheated on someone and been forgiven- it happens. I do believe it can exist- but maybe in cases of mistaken love it 'shouldn't' exist. Love YOU! xox

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 1:50:00 AM

    yeah that was a long time ago....it depends on what the behavior is really...so if someone lied about another human being to threaten their job and did not bother to change their behavior you would date them then? or ...if I recall you kept telling me to leave JEFF? a drunken cheat? remember?

  1. Date: 4/17/2011 1:50:00 AM

    would you want me to be with a drunken cheat cyndi? it is their behavior after all?

  1. Date: 4/16/2011 6:27:00 PM

    Well, this is truly funny, when you think about it. Years ago you and I got into one of our heated debates (like what sisters don't ;-) ) and you said you believed in unconditional love and I said I absolutely didn't. But here we are - about twenty years later- and we've changed our opinions completely. Now "I" believe in unconditional love and "you" don't. I Becoming a mom is what changed me. Nothing could ever change me loving my girl. MHO: I love the person, but not their behavior. Not easy.

  1. Date: 4/16/2011 10:25:00 AM

    even fresh cut flowers she brought...LOL..wow..gotta go

  1. Date: 4/16/2011 10:01:00 AM

    yeah well some use the goodbye method way to often to bail on their own changes that are needed just another pathetic selfish excuse...my computer needs a clean out, to many letter pictures for acrostic built up taking up SPACE